THEY. GOT. CONNED.

[EnergizedLib]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/12/12/economy/grocery-prices-inflation-trump-interview

———Snip

‘It’s hard to bring things down once they’re up’
Speaking in front of a table of packaged foods, Trump used an August press conference to draw attention to food inflation during his campaign for president. “Grocery prices have skyrocketed,” he said.

“When I win, I will immediately bring prices down, starting on day one,” Trump continued. “We will drill, baby, drill,” he said, referring to increasing domestic oil production. “That’s going to bring down prices of everything.”

(Economists generally prefer to see prices increase modestly across an economy rather than fall, a scenario known as deflation, because it can cause people to put off purchases. And often, when prices for goods fall significantly, it’s because more people are unemployed and the economy is in a downturn.)

“It’s hard to bring things down once they’re up,” Trump said in his Time Magazine “Person of the Year” interview published Thursday, referring to grocery prices. “You know, it’s very hard…But I think that they will. I think that energy is going to bring them down.”

“I think a better supply chain is going to bring them down,” he continued. “You know, the supply chain is still broken.”

———Snip

You mean he can’t just magically say, ‘Abracadabra’ and lower prices just like that? Color me shocked.

If only there was someone to warn people he was a con man.

Oh, wait.

These people got played so badly.

[Dave Bowman]

1. Badly misinformed suckers.

[ananda]

17. Deliberately believing misinformation due to racism and misogyny.

...

[BattleRow]

38. Acquiescent accomplices and volunteer victims.

[mucifer]

2. They will all blame President Biden, no matter how bad it gets.

[EnergizedLib]

4. That trick will only be able to work for so long

[canuckledragger]

5. Really?

They've been scapegoating liberals and democrats for as long as I've been alive...49 years.

[EnergizedLib]

6. I mean, concerning the next election cycle or two

[mucifer]

10. No it's a cult. they will believe what they are told.

[EnergizedLib]

11. Cults don't last forever

And some people leave and others get upset and wake up.

We’re not going to lose elections for the rest of time.

[mucifer]

13. There are cults that go on for generations. they have endless amounts of money for brainwashing.

[EnergizedLib]

20. The cult leader is getting older

Not everybody can match the felon’s charisma, and those who’ve tried to run on the same policies have lost in down ballot races.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

47. We have Elon. A law saying that foreign-born people can't be president.

Can be changed. It would be the least crazy thing that’s happened in the last few years.

[EnergizedLib]

48. He's not born and naturalized

The Constitution would have to be changed, which doesn’t happen overnight and hasn’t happened for decades.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

52. Yeah - and a lot if crazy shit that hasn't happened for the

entire history of the U.S. has been happening. The Republicans are all of a sudden no fans of the Constitution. We will see the Constitution either get ignored, ripped up, the President/King not have to follow it.

[krkaufman]

68. He'll be satisfied with just funding the winner

No need for the job title when you can net all you need without it.

[Dave Bowman]

25. Well, Christianity has been around for some time.

[EnergizedLib]

32. But Christianity hasn't always won elections or been law of the land

As I’m sure you know.

[Dave Bowman]

43. Until fairly recent times there was absolutely no barrier between christianity and the power in place,

kings, queens etc, going back to the roman emperors after Constantine converted in the 4th century. The U.S is barely 250 years old, you know.

[krkaufman]

67. It's only a "cult" until ...

… enough believe believe.

[Skittles]

56. LOL

they still blame Obama and Hillary

[hadEnuf]

59. Biden was working hard to correct these "issues" and so would have Harris.

But the brainwashing media was too strong.

The Democrats should have a well-funded, full time PR team to inform citizens of what was and is being done on their behalf by Democrats and to point out the depraved Republican lies. They should run commercials year-round. Traditional media outlets are all compromised.

[uponit7771]

3. Yep, 2015 gas was at 2 dollars nationally, inflation was below 2%, unemployment was at 4%-ish and the M$M still told ...

.... MAGA things were horrible.

Economy vote my ass, people were mic'd

[mucifer]

12. Well people are still having problems paying bills. But, it's about to get much much worse.

[Klarkashton]

22. When did people not have trouble paying their bills?

This shows up every election as if it's something new.

[mucifer]

24. The amount of credit card debt is worse than it has ever been. You can see in this graph:

https://www.newyorkfed.org/microeconomics/hhdc

Lots of people are suffering. Ignoring that fact doesn't make it better. We would be in a better place republicans, manchin and sinema didn't block progress.

[hatrack]

31. Yeah, and Black Friday spending was up 10% over last year . . . .

So, yeah, it's 1933 all over again, apparently.

[Demobrat]

36. Several people I know, including me,

are taking the opportunity to stock up on things they might have waited to buy. Electronics. Appliances. As well as taking care of home maintenance stuff right now before prices go up.

Half the shoppers see higher prices on the way and are attempting to head them off. The other half think Santa Trump is coming.

So yeah, it looks like a very merry Xmas for retailers. The hangover should be fun, though.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

49. Yep I'm buying a bunch of non-perishable goods.

Luckily, I’m a bit of a hoarder so I have enough hygiene products to last me for years.

[wishstar]

58. ABC morning news actually had a segment recently advising people to buy now

The ABC report explained how tariffs could raise prices of electronics and appliances made outside US and advised that holiday sales would be a good time to get needed items before prices rise.

[Wiz Imp]

37. Your numbers are off a bit

Gas at the beginning of 2015 was $2.51. At the end of the year it was $2.20.
Inflation at the beginning of 2015 was actually -0.1%. At the end of the year it was 0.7%.
Unemployment at the beginning of 2015 was 5.7%. At the end of the year it was 5.0%

I don't remember the media downplaying the health of the economy in 2016 like they did in 2024.

[LisaL]

7. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

MAGATs have been fooled twice.

[Dave Bowman]

27. Fooled twice but not very shameful, yet.

[bdamomma]

35. Magats

are in for a rude awakening, they didn't even know what "tariffs" are they are TAXES!!! and Obamacare care is the ACA. They have been played.

[IzzaNuDay]

8. Never underestimate the stupidity of MAGA

the orange clown is a pathological liar, but still they believed him.

I have no sympathy for MAGA plight as they suffer through the next four years.

Their collective memories of the shitstorm from January 20, 2017 to four years later seem
to be distant.

F all these stupid people.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. How is he going to improve the supply chain if he plans to apply tariffs and deport

all the cheap labor out of this country. Thinking people want to know. You can't improve the supply chain if food is rotting in the fields. And you can't lower prices if everything that gets imported is being counter tariffed by the countries that are being hit with tariffs.

[Dave says]

15. Trump is just passing gas

But his cult believes it. They’ll be blaming Obama and Biden for the Civil War soon. They are/will be a lost generation.

[Baitball Blogger]

16. Trump is passing gas and the media are huffers for Trump.

[BattleRow]

39. That methane is lethal,btw

[republianmushroom]

14. Live and learn, MAGA's.

[EnergizedLib]

19. They've shown the ability to do the former

But not the latter.

Them getting played would be even more humorous if the rest of us didn’t have to suffer along with them.

[raccoon]

18. They asked for it, they got it. And it wasn't Toyota.

[Klarkashton]

21. He could have said this back then. But that would have

Meant he would be telling the truth.

[LilElf70]

23. If his mouth is open

He's lying. His supporters are so friggin toopid, they don't even recognize it. They will soon figure it out, but it's too late now.

[Blue_Tires]

26. They WANTED to get conned... They CHOSE to believe the lies and disinfo instead of the truth...

[Sneederbunk]

28. But they love being conned. It's a balm.

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[Blue_Tires]

29. I suppose next you'll tell us he can't bring permanent peace to Ukraine and Palestine with "just one phone call"

[usonian]

30. They believed everything he said because it didn't matter. He was going to punish their "enemies" no matter what.

Do you remember how Joe Biden was “too old”?
Change the story..

They hear only the dogwhistles.

[Orrex]

33. Maybe he'll just fucking die.

[DallasNE]

34. You can Only Get Played

When you allow it to happen by disengaging critical thinking.you take a lot of people down with you.

[lonely bird]

40. Of course, they got conned

They went willingly with eyes wide shut.

They continue to support a political economy that automatically tends toward destruction because it requires infinite growth in order to not collapse. That prices will not drop because of anything ther imbecile does will become irrelevant in short order. The media is already making noise about how good the economy is. And they will believe it because they want to believe it. And they want to believe Dear Leader is the cause.

The theomythology of this country is incredibly strong.

[Liberal In Texas]

41. Their propaganda was super charged with nearly unlimited billionaire resources.

This is magnified by the right wing media structure that they've been putting together since the 80s. The lies are repeated over and over and pretty soon voters start believing we are in a recession and the price of eggs is the fault of Joe Biden. Traditional corporate media has been cowed into both-siderism afraid of being accused of the dreaded "Liberal Media" insult. This is exacerbated by media owners pulling the reins back on news departments so as not to jeopardize political favor or tax cuts.

Voters were told that the economy was the best in the world after the recovery from covid shut-downs and other good news and positive things were campaigned on. It's just that the RW noise drowned it out. It isn't a matter of listening to fly-over country, it's a matter of being able to get a message out that they will actually hear. And have it repeated over and over.

[DJ Synikus Makisimus]

42. People who've been conned don't admit it.

Especially not to themselves. Not without a great deal of, er, motivating factors, and even then. Don't count on anything changing because of reality.

[Initech]

44. And they'll keep bending over for Dear Leader and the billionaire criminal cabal.

Until a Civil War or Great Depression happens and both seem increasingly likely.

[EnergizedLib]

45. I saw it in 2020

When a cultist said they’d rather love under a great depression than under socialism.

In case you wonder where we’re at.

[Initech]

46. And Eloon said he thinks the American people need to suffer.

A fucking literal James Bond villain is among the MAGA ranks, and it's the guy who wants to be a trillionaire.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

50. Are they so far gone that Trump will get away with all his crap?

I really wonder. If he was able to get elected despite all the skeletons in his closet and all of the crazy stuff he has said, I wonder.

[Maru Kitteh]

51. He hates who they hate, and that is all they need. They will NOT care about

the groceries or much of anything else actually. He hates who they hate, and that is all they need. This is why they love him. It’s why they will never leave him. The bonds of hate.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

55. As someone who has worked in psych and have degrees in it.

And have gone back to being a major cynic, you could very likely be correct. Cognitive Dissonance and Cults are a very powerful thing. If they haven’t turned on him for all the crazy nominees he’s put up, I believe I am seeing a trend. It is very difficult to break people from a cult and we have a lot of cult followers. I’m just glad there’s a few people like all of you at DU who can see the craziness that is going on. People do not like to admit to making horrible mistakes that end up majorly biting them in the ass.

[SoFlaBro]

53. I've been saying MAGA is a pack of stupid motherfucking pantloads for as long as there's been a shitty Tea Party.

[Dem4life1970]

54. He is a con artist and the marks fell for it. FAFO...

[littlemissmartypants]

57. IS a con. Not was. They're planning to rob the Treasury.

That's the long con. Food prices and killing Social Programs those are just the lay up shots. It's way, way worse.

[usaf-vet]

60. In my mind the reality is he is going drastically increase the cost of groceries if he manages to deport farm workers.

This is my post from an earlier similar OP.

My same response:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3355884

[cer7711]

61. MAGA voters sent Trump in as an orange wrecking ball . . .

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. . . to smash the china shop to pieces.

Few, I bet, honestly believed this con man/clown could deliver on promises like this.

What Trump COULD do is play havoc with the system.

This is important to note because voters lie about their reasons for pulling the lever for Mango Mussolini.
And if we (the left, collectively) are waiitng for these MAGA-ats to suddenly acknowledge they were conned, well . . . it's not a con if these voters lied about the reason they re-elected this maniac in the first place, is it?

This is ID-driven nihilism in action, and I doubt most rank-and-file Trumpists could even articulate this motivation/sentiment (assuming they are fully conscious of their own motivations here.)

[COL Mustard]

62. Wait, what?

I want gas to be $0.50/gallon, eggs to be $1/dozen and everything else to be at least 15% less by the end of January. Oh, and I want a big fat pay raise too, because I'm Me!

[ailsagirl]

63. And they're just realizing it NOW??

[Cosmocat]

64. I don't think that is the case for the most part

IMO, they mostly knew it was bullshit, they just got in line with it because their primary motive was owning the libs.

[Keepthesoulalive]

65. You mean it wasn't economic anxiety or the price of eggs

Or crime. Maybe we just need to message better. Sometimes I think some folks here are just as gullible. It is about hate and fear and consuming information that amplifies that.

[krkaufman]

66. Mind-numbing reading that article ...

… with the article acting like Trump is adjusting some strategy to inflation and bringing prices down, rather than just flailing about, just short of suggesting that maybe injecting home disinfectants might help, and that his campaign
“promises” were just baseless pandering without any technical merit.

Where’s the news org that has a checklist of Trump’s campaign promises, and is using it to track progress?

[iluvtennis]

69. WTF. Someone convicted of felonies, defamation/sexual assault, and fraud is the Person of the Year. Un-fkn-believable

[Owens]

70. Pete had to fix the supply chain that Trump broke with his botched handling of the pandemic