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speak easy

(10,653 posts)
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:48 AM Friday

Hegseth: "If you train a group of men to treat women equally on the battlefield,

then you will be hard pressed to ask them to treat women differently at home.”

No women in combat? There it is.

Pete Hegseth decried out gay troops in US military as part of Marxist agenda
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/12/pete-hegseth-military-comments

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no_hypocrisy

(49,096 posts)
1. Sounds more like Hegseth has a problem with women outranking men
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:56 AM
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in the military and THEY have to follow THEIR orders -- and we can't have that at home, can we . . . . ?

Hugin

(34,724 posts)
2. Pete "Mommy Issues" Hegseth...
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:01 AM
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Should withdraw from public life and seek professional help to address his self-loathing.

Walleye

(36,242 posts)
3. Yes, because if women didn't want to get in combat, men would behave like perfect little gentlemen all the time
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:10 AM
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I’m sick of bratty, immature, men/ boys, blaming their reprehensible behavior on women

fightvision81

(22 posts)
4. Just a psychotic wackjob....
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 06:25 AM
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Is he drinking too much of his own Kool-Aid or Faux Noise's? The Bush Administration set up a precedent in this country to gaslight the American people into sending its poorest, youngest, most vulnerable citizens (and undocumented peoples) to the front lines for false pretenses. We elected presidents to stop us from perpetuating us into forever occupations of foreign countries. If someone is willing to put themselves out there and sacrifice themselves for their country, does it make any sense to discriminate them and stop them from doing it?

allegorical oracle

(3,323 posts)
6. Agree. Yet news of the last 24 hours seems to indicate that he going to get the post. It's
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 07:38 AM
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concerning that Dems aren't more strenuously criticizing him. Hope hearings can put a dent in his progress.

sop

(11,478 posts)
7. Hegseth epitomizes the 'Bro Culture' that has taken hold of the Republican party, and most of America.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 07:41 AM
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It's a culture that prioritises young macho men with obnoxious and toxic behaviour above all else.

Biophilic

(4,937 posts)
8. Why should they be treated differently at home?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 07:46 AM
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And, exactly how should women be treated at home? This is so disgusting.

AloeVera

(1,990 posts)
10. You don't know the half of it.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 08:40 AM
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Read on, but be warned. It's stomach-turning.

This is the context for that quote about women in the military.

Wilson is the pastor of the Christian Nationalist, war-mongering, misogynistic, bigoted Christian sect Hegseth belongs to.

Wilson believes men have a sexual right to women, and has written that unsubmissive women are at fault for sexual violence committed against them. “The sexual act cannot be made into an egalitarian pleasuring party … a man penetrates, conquers, colonizes, plants. A woman receives, surrenders, accepts.” Wilson also believes that God created women “to make the sandwiches” and thinks that giving women the right to vote led to “a long, sustained war on the family.”

“Wilson holds the most extreme views of women’s submission found in any form of Christianity,” Julie Ingersoll, a religious studies professor at the University of North Florida, told Salon. “Women are taught that submission to their husbands (and other male authorities) is submission to God. Independence of any kind is cast as sin.”


https://newrepublic.com/post/188960/pete-hegseth-gets-regressive-ideas-women

Biophilic

(4,937 posts)
11. Good gravy! I foolishly keep thinking we hit the bottom.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 10:04 AM
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And we don’t seem to be close.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,811 posts)
16. I wonder if Susan Collins would be concerned with that sort of attitude.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 02:22 PM
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Not concerned enough to vote "no", of course, but enough to show a furrowed brow when she votes "yes".

nuxvomica

(12,972 posts)
9. Jeez, he doesn't even wash his hands!
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 08:29 AM
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He proudly announced on a Fox show that he hadn't washed his hands in ten years! He probably thinks that's something only "weak" people do. The pathological fear of appearing weak should be the biggest red flag for a prospective Sec. of Defense. Think of how much trouble that could get us into! Yet in terms of strength, he fails to understand how much stronger women and LGBTQ folks have had to be just to live their everyday lives in peacetime.

Biophilic

(4,937 posts)
12. Quite bluntly if our Democratic senators don't fight this to the bitter end I suspect I'm over them.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 10:08 AM
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