Brexit change of heart...

[Old Crank]

Last edited Fri Dec 13, 2024, 01:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Just a bit late but people had to do the FO part. Now the people who voted to leave want back..
buyers remorse, big time. A lot of Brits were unhappy with the new visa requirements when they were used to free travel before. Not to mention the economic consequences for small business and farmers.
This will be fun. Since European leaders aren't totally on board and a lot of the populist, far right, parties are Euro sceptical.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/23/britons-who-want-to-rejoin-eu-at-highest-since-2016-survey-finds

“There is a remarkable consensus on both sides of the Channel that the time is ripe for a reassessment of EU-UK relations,” it concluded, with closer relations being the most popular option in every country surveyed – and public opinion on the question well ahead of government stances.

Based on polling of more than 9,000 people across the UK and the EU’s five most populous countries – Germany, France, Italy, Spain and Poland – in the weeks after Trump’s election win in November, the ECFR study found the strongest enthusiasm for renewed ties were in Britain.

Perhaps the most striking finding was that 54% of Britons who voted leave, including 59% of voters in “red wall seats”, said in exchange for single market access they would now accept full free movement for EU and UK citizens to travel, live and work across borders.

[róisín_dubh]

1. Fingers crossed...

I live in the UK on a visa. I qualify for an Italian passport, for which I'm in the process of applying. If this becomes reality, bye bye expensive and stupid visa processes for me and countless others.

[hatrack]

2. Too bad, so sad . . . .

Leavers shit the bed. Let them relax and enjoy the fresh fragrance of Consequences.

[Celerity]

4. We (I voted Remain) Remainers are negatively impacted as well, so I can assume you are fine

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with all non Trumpers also being hurt due the actions of the Trump voters?

You can't have it both ways.

If Sweden disallows dual or more citizenships, we (my wife and I) will have to leave and move to another EU country that does allow multiple citizenships, as we will not give up our UK citizenship, yet we want to retain full EU rights as well.

I also am a US citizen (via jus soli), but would forfeit that before my UK citizenship or EU standing.

[hatrack]

11. Yes, I'm very well aware that everyone will be screwed when this circus comes to town . . .

. . . and that the full-immersion shitshow is inevitable for everyone, now matter how they voted. Recognition of that inevitability doesn't mean I'm "fine" about it, since I'll be living it myself, in case that hadn't occurred to you.

It's just that the pained squealing of MAGAts/Brexiteers over the next four years as things unwind is almost certainly the only soupcon of justice on tap for citizens of the UK and the US who didn't have their heads up their butts over the past decade.

And if you have a problem with my taking some small satisfaction with that prospect, then sue me.

Have fun in Sweden, or wherever.

[Celerity]

13. Lol, sue you? I pretty much agree with you. I was only asking where you stood on the 'not only Trump voters will be

impacted' issue.

Political realities sometimes offer up no good answers to that. IF (highly, highly unlikely) Trump and the Rethug's machinations do not cause massive hardship, and especially (even more unlikely) IF they end up having a net positive effect for the majority of people, that will only serve to further aid their political takeover of the nation.

[Old Crank]

14. Germany just changed its laws

And you can now have dual citizenship. I have US and Canadian currently. Will be applying for German citizenship this coming year. They also reduced the requirements for older people.

[Celerity]

18. Germany is one of multiple options for us as well. Hopefully Sweden doesn't stupidly go to a sole citizenship only model

[ThePartyThatListens]

3. Too many people need to feel

Before they get it

[muriel_volestrangler]

5. Your link is about Ohio medications, not Brexit (nt)

[Old Crank]

15. Fixed it.

Not sure how that happened but thanks for the heads up.

[Walleye]

6. Russia learned how to manipulate elections with Brexit

[Irish_Dem]

7. Exactly and it was very successful.

Breaking up the European alliance and damaging the UK.

Putin is doing the same in the US.

Breaking up North American and European alliances and severely damaging the US.

For the purpose of shifting world power to Russia, China, and other Bric countries.

[mitch96]

10. Yup, stir things up, get the people outraged keep saying only a "strongman" can "fix things" and said

strongman is pro ruzzia. BOOM you have control of a country without firing a shot. putin tried it in Ukraine but it did not work out the way he wanted...
He is still trying..
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[Basso8vb]

8. That's how they should feel after falling for the propaganda that was shoved up their collective asses.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

9. Brexit was a very stupid idea

[edhopper]

12. Returning is the only way

to fix the border problem in N Ireland. The UK will have to eat shit now and not get the sweetheart deal they had with the EU when they first joined.

[Old Crank]

16. The other option is for North Ireland to join Ireland.

That may happen sooner than expected.
There are about a third of voters who don't belong to the two parties set up in the Good Friday agreement and want change.

[edhopper]

17. And a return to "THe Troubles"

They had a perfect solution with the EU open border and the UK voters fucked it all up.
They are as dumb as our voters.

[uponit7771]

19. I pray it doesn't take MAGA this long

[Wounded Bear]

20. This time they'll have to dump the pound and switch to the Euro...

[Old Crank]

21. And drop Stones as a measure of weight?

There are some things that would be good to change. Miles an hour when you buy gas in liters...