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dalton99a

(84,772 posts)
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 12:36 PM Friday

NYT publishes UnitedHealthcare eulogy for Thompson

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/13/opinion/united-health-care-brian-thompson-luigi-mangione.html

UnitedHealth Group C.E.O.: The Health Care System Is Flawed. Let’s Fix It.
Dec. 13, 2024, 5:04 a.m. ET
By Andrew Witty
Mr. Witty is the chief executive officer of UnitedHealth Group, the parent company of UnitedHealthcare.

As Brian Thompson’s family, friends and colleagues mourn his killing, we are bearing a grief and sadness we will carry for the rest of our lives. Grief for the family he leaves behind. And grief for a brilliant, kind man who was working to make health care better for everyone.

We greatly appreciate the enormous outpouring of support for Brian, who ran our health insurance business, UnitedHealthcare, as well as for our wider company, which I lead. Yet we also are struggling to make sense of this unconscionable act and the vitriol that has been directed at our colleagues who have been barraged by threats. No employees — be they the people who answer customer calls or nurses who visit patients in their homes — should have to fear for their and their loved ones’ safety.

The people of UnitedHealth Group are nurses, doctors, patient and client advocates, technologists and more. They all come to work each day to provide critical health services for millions of Americans in need.

We know the health system does not work as well as it should, and we understand people’s frustrations with it. No one would design a system like the one we have. And no one did. It’s a patchwork built over decades. Our mission is to help make it work better. We are willing to partner with anyone, as we always have — health care providers, employers, patients, pharmaceutical companies, governments and others — to find ways to deliver high-quality care and lower costs.

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Message: We are NOT beancounters. We care! We REALLY REALLY do!



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NYT publishes UnitedHealthcare eulogy for Thompson (Original Post) dalton99a Friday OP
Is he getting torched in the comments? mwmisses4289 Friday #1
Very sad ThePartyThatListens Friday #4
2471 comments so far dalton99a Friday #5
Nice to see mwmisses4289 Friday #7
"A miserable sociopath who chuckled behind the backs of Mike 03 Friday #2
"No one would design a system like the one we have." MagickMuffin Friday #3
He should be fired into the sun tenderfoot Friday #6
The comments are straight to the point and straight to his jugular vanessa_ca Friday #8
They insulate themselves from the cold reality of their business Johnny2X2X Friday #9
Lol. The comments section is now closed. vanessa_ca Friday #10

dalton99a

(84,772 posts)
5. 2471 comments so far
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 01:00 PM
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Last edited Fri Dec 13, 2024, 01:54 PM - Edit history (2)

JZ
Utah 2m ago

Andrew, you're in charge of the system you need to fix. Don't try to write this as one of the people who can't influence things. According to this paper, United Health denies approximately 33% of it's claims yearly. I assume that's in order to enhance profitability. If you want to fix the problem then look in the mirror.

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Harry
NE 3m ago

Meanwhile here's what UnitedHealth, lead by this guy, is doing:
"UnitedHealth Is Strategically Limiting Access to Critical Treatment for Kids With Autism"
(From ProPublica)
https://www.propublica.org/article/unitedhealthcare-insurance-autism-denials-applied-behavior-analysis-medicaid

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Doug MacGregor
Alberta 4m ago

Such platitudes Mr. Witty, such genuine concern now that your under the microscope. Such a well phrased deflection was needed certainly, to buy time to do nothing but delay, deny and wait till this blows over. You hope. Do I expect more than words of platitude at this particular moment? Does anyone?

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Joe B.l
Center City 6m ago

Bro, we just need to get you and your companies out of the business of denying health care for $$$$. Biggest problem solved.

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Rob
East Coast 7m ago

From Wiki:

"In 2023, Witty's total compensation from UnitedHealth Group was $23.5 million, representing a CEO-to-median worker pay ratio of 352-to-1."

Nothing more to be said...

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Vermonter
vermont 15m ago

Why are we seeing this hollow apology by another CEO and not Luigi Mangione’s full manifesto? Or first-hand accounts of some of the millions of people preyed upon by this country’s vampiric healthcare system? Once again, the coverage of this story is skewed in favor of the ruling class’s perspective. But we aren’t buying it this time.

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sambir1
toronto 15m ago

I find using the life and tragic death of Brian Thompson as a way to defend United Healthcare disgusting. Mr. Witty should have dealt with his company's record and profit motives more directly. He admits no one would have designed the patchwork American health system but does not say how his company exploits it for increased profits

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Mike Smith
NYC 15m ago

I had to laugh out loud at this CEO’s statement that no employee should have to live in fear for their safety. I guess its ok though for their clients to live in fear of being routinely denied lifesaving healthcare. The guy is tone deaf.

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Dog
Earth 17m ago

Nice PR stunt. Not going to believe change is happening until the claim rejection stats start to go down.

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Leesburg & Down
Leesburg, VA 17m ago

UnitedHealthcare denies 32% of claims while the industry average is 16%. This is borderline criminal.

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Jason
Iowa 17m ago

Mr. Witty clearly has never struggled with the pain of being denied critical care. UHC makes its money off the suffering of tens of thousands of Americans, and NOW wants to say that something needs to be done?

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Kate
Bethlehem 17m ago

Something is very rage inducing in Mr. Witty's article, not so much about Brian Thompson but about the health insurance business. They don't offer health. The don't deliver health care. They don't prescribe or fill prescriptions. Like other parasitical industries they focus on their own profits and their shareholders. They elevate the worth of the CEO such that when he's assassinated, part of the world grieves while the other rage against machine that provoked the killing in the first place.

Where's the outpouring of grief for all the pain and suffering caused by their decisions?

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Jennifer Hoult, J.D.
New York City 17m ago

United Health Group's business model relies on systemic criminal fraud. They collect premiums on contracts people buy to obtain guaranteed medical care, and then systemically deny the care the insured parties paid for.

The executives of this organized crime organization should be held personally accountable both civilly and criminally. Like the Sackler family's opiod grifting, these individuals are deliberately killing and injuring millions of Americans.

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Tony
Chicago 17m ago

Dear Mr. Wtty, If you truly would like to foster transparency in the decision-making process at UHC, you could start at UHC's Optum by providing transparency within its drug formulary. For an example of what I'm referring to, consider Mark Cuban's CostPlusDrugs.

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DonnaB
Seattle 21m ago

Mr. Witty is trying to salvage something here. Any doctor I know (myself included) loathes UHC. For good reasons.

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Randy
Houston 21m ago

This is utterly disingenuous, self-serving nonsense. The only way to fix this system is the complete elimination of private health insurance. The health insurance industry adds zero value; its sole purpose is to skim rents out of healthcare spending. It does so by imposing itself as a middleman between patients and providers, impeding access to care and driving up costs in the process.

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Al
Florida 34m ago

“We understand and share the desire to build a health care system that works better for everyone. That is the purpose of our organization.” -No. The purpose of your organization is to make money. If you could just be honest about that maybe I would take you seriously.

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Magwep
New York 34m ago

While it’s lovely that Sir Andrew Witty, a Brit (nationalized healthcare!) and former GSK CEO, now earning $23m as UHC’s CEO, wrote a defense of UHC’s role in the broken American healthcare system disguised as a tribute to his late colleague, Brian Thompson, it reads like a PR narrative crafted by a top team.

With no accountability or meaningful solutions, relying instead on corporate empathy statements, the team attempted to humanize UHC while sidestepping systemic failures. The familiar script emerges: frame the healthcare system’s dysfunction as a shared struggle, acknowledge public frustration, and reaffirm the company’s purpose without offering action.

Take the line: “We need to improve how we explain what insurance covers.” Translation: it’s the customer’s misunderstanding, not UHC’s denials, causing issues. The 34% of insured individuals denied treatment likely see it differently.

Then comes the appeal-to-authority fallacy: “Behind each decision lies a comprehensive and continually updated body of clinical evidence.” Missing here is the profit motive. UHC’s $32.4 billion in 2023 speaks louder than this classically elitist ploy.

So he’s saying we just don’t understand. No need to commit to concrete reforms—like restoring consultation service codes or reducing admin burdens on doctors. Such steps far removed from Mr. Witty’s likely own lived reality, where most likely premium concierge care ensures he never has to navigate the same broken system as the rest of us.

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prochoiceinChi
3rdCoast 37m ago

Good luck to you, sir. You write that no employee shoudl "have to fear for their and their loved one's safety".

Can you understand that that is the terror that torments Americans that are hurt by our current system. It is indeed a system of tyranny from which we should be free.

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A
Virginia 37m ago

“The people of UnitedHealth Group are nurses, doctors, patient and client advocates, technologists and more. They all come to work each day to provide critical health services for millions of Americans in need.”

The people who process insurance claims are none of those things. Clinicians provide “critical health services.” People who review insurance claims do administrative work and never “provide critical health services.”

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Bob
Finland 37m ago

In what way did Brian Thompson make UHC more transparent, clear, effective, or human? Using AI to make decisions for a company with already 2x the average denial rate completely spits in the face of notion. He made the company more profitable at the expense of sick people. That's the end of the story. and until people recognize that, the US Healthcare system cannot be fixed.

Deny, defend, depose, and now gaslight.

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lizannes
Corvallis, OR 28m ago

The fox is assuring us that he really doesn't plan to devour every last bit he can, he's just misunderstood.

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Theo
California 28m ago

Mr. Witty: You, along with Mr. Thompson, allegedly engaged in insider trading by cashing out millions of dollars worth of shares in UnitedHealth in response to a DOJ investigation. I don't condone violence, but I don't think the American public needs lecturing from a white-collar criminal.

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Gary Pearlz
Portland OR 29m ago

Using grief to hide greed?
That’s gross.

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Leo House
CA 29m ago

Let’s be clear, United Healthcare is in the insurance business not the healthcare business just like Geico is in the insurance business not the automobile business. Don’t insult our intelligence by implying that you are trying to keep us healthy.

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Jeffrey W Kramer
Des Moines, IA 45m ago

The idea of United being involved with fixing the health system is akin to the idea of foxes fixing henhouse access or pedophiles fixing daycare security procedures. A good start to fixing the system would be to eliminate for-profit insurance companies from the equation, as they are parasites akin to tapeworms, ticks and lice.

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Collin
Mississippi 45m ago

In leaked internal videos sent to employees this week, Witty told employees, “We guard… against unnecessary care” and to “tune out critical noise”. He also went on to say there was “no use” in talking to the media. It is incredibly obvious - almost insultingly so - that this is a CEO who has gone all in on damage control for his broken mess of a company and the revolting soup that company swims in. He thinks we are stupid. This opinion piece is so disingenuous it makes my stomach turn.

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George
North Texas 53m ago

I would like to see the New York Times do a story on the physicians who work for insurance companies that are ultimately behind all the denials for treatment. Who are these people -- failed private practice doctors? Retired physicians trying to make some extra bucks? How much are they paid and are they given bonus incentives for a certain level of denials? So many questions.

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Chill Guy
Ann Arbor, MI 53m ago

Ahh nothing makes me feel more warm and fuzzy inside than the story of how Brian Thompson rose from humble beginnings to direct a company that spent millions lobbying against single-payer healthcare and implemented a hilariously error-riddled AI model to systematically deny elderly patients' healthcare. It really goes to show you that in America, with enough hard work and dedication, you too can make obscene profits off the misery of millions. Do we really need to hear more empty platitudes from these ghouls?

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Mike 03

(17,232 posts)
2. "A miserable sociopath who chuckled behind the backs of
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 12:53 PM
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the patients his brilliant new AI program sentenced to death."

MagickMuffin

(17,176 posts)
3. "No one would design a system like the one we have."
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 12:55 PM
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“And no one did”

I CALL BOLLOCKS AND YOU MR. WITTY ARE A LIAR!

What do you call all your Lobbyist?

Are they not considered no one?

The insurance lobbied to get what they wanted which was to privatize our healthcare system. And with that privatization it became a for profit “healthcare” industry.


Customer pays for a service in which your for profit industry decides that paying out for the healthcare we pay them for can be denied because if they pay out no big payback for them and their shareholders.


vanessa_ca

(69 posts)
8. The comments are straight to the point and straight to his jugular
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 03:02 PM
Friday

As one pointed out, Witty needs to explain how $32billion in corporate profits for United Healthcare in 2023 isn't $32billion of health care people paid for but didn't receive.

Johnny2X2X

(21,863 posts)
9. They insulate themselves from the cold reality of their business
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 03:20 PM
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They tell themselves lies, they built a structure around them that protects them from feeling any responsibility. They pretend it's a system they can't change. But the cold hard facts are that the people who run United Health Care are actual evil human beings who value their own wealth more than they value human life.

Deep down, they know in their hearts they are getting rich by allowing people to die. That's the business they got into and all the pretending in the world doesn't change theat.

I don't care what anyone else says, and I do not condone murder at all, but this guy and many like him deserve to die. They are among the most evil scum to have ever walked the face of the earth and if there is a place called hell, they will be rotting there.

vanessa_ca

(69 posts)
10. Lol. The comments section is now closed.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:28 PM
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"Comments 2469

The comments section is closed. To submit a letter to the editor for publication, write to letters@nytimes.com."

I'm guessing that didn't go over very well.



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