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Javaman

(63,218 posts)
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 04:56 PM Dec 13

just a factoid for all of us to chew on...

In France just before the Revolution of 1789, the proportion of national wealth held by the top 10 percent was about 90 percent, and the fraction possessed by the top 1 percent was as much as 60 percent

https://www.cadtm.org/The-evolution-of-wealth-inequalities-over-the-last-two-centuries#:~:text=In%20France%20just%20before%20the,as%20much%20as%2060%20percent.


In the first quarter of 2024, almost two-thirds percent of the total wealth in the United States was owned by the top 10 percent of earners. In comparison, the lowest 50 percent of earners only owned 2.5 percent of the total wealth

https://www.statista.com/statistics/203961/wealth-distribution-for-the-us/#:~:text=U.S.%20wealth%20distribution%20Q2%202024&text=In%20the%20first%20quarter%20of,percent%20of%20the%20total%20wealth.

we are not quite their yet, but we aren't getting better. And it's only going to get worse under the orange asshole.

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just a factoid for all of us to chew on... (Original Post) Javaman Dec 13 OP
Kick dalton99a Dec 13 #1
Has anyone sourced guillotine builders? jls4561 Dec 13 #2
France has a couple of guillotines in museum storage. Irish_Dem Dec 13 #8
Maybe Fred Leuchter canetoad Dec 13 #11
I looked up this guy. Irish_Dem Dec 13 #12
There's an excellent canetoad Dec 13 #13
Thanks for the info. Irish_Dem Dec 13 #14
The dump wants to cancel OT increases too. It's going to get worse, just watch... SWBTATTReg Dec 13 #3
Causes of French Revolution Stardust Mirror Dec 13 #4
Seems like a pretty accurate list for today, also. Thanks! erronis Dec 13 #9
Can't study French History without reference to John Law bucolic_frolic Dec 13 #16
thanks for that reference Stardust Mirror Dec 13 #17
Great OP malaise Dec 13 #5
Probably shouldn't post this but an idea just came to me EverHopeful Dec 13 #6
Wonder how many wear AR-15 bullet-proof jackets --- just in case. erronis Dec 13 #10
when Project 2025 gets results Skittles Dec 13 #7
Back then, wealth was real-- gold, land, etc. Now it's based mostly on stock value on paper. Silent Type Dec 13 #15

jls4561

(1,628 posts)
2. Has anyone sourced guillotine builders?
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:06 PM
Dec 13

I think Ivanka would find them soooo much classier than nooses.

Not that Ivanka would recognize classy if it bit her in the Kardashian.

Irish_Dem

(60,787 posts)
8. France has a couple of guillotines in museum storage.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 06:30 PM
Dec 13

They think they are too gruesome to display.

Maybe we can borrow them.

canetoad

(18,389 posts)
11. Maybe Fred Leuchter
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 07:06 PM
Dec 13

Could be lured out of retirement to design a modern, digital version.

canetoad

(18,389 posts)
13. There's an excellent
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 07:10 PM
Dec 13

Errol Morris documentary about him. The whole version is on you tube and well worth a look. Search for "Mr. Death: The Rise and Fall of Fred A. Leuchter, Jr."

Stardust Mirror

(631 posts)
4. Causes of French Revolution
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:16 PM
Dec 13

Causes of French Revolution
-overly complex tax code
-govt in debt for wars
-nobility don't pay taxes
-nobility had rights, peasants didn't
-church monopoly on education
-church too much power & wealth
-some clergy lived luxuriously
-climate change led to successive poor harvests
-general famine
-no money/food for soldiers

Just what I cobbled together from a convo with someone who seemed to know..

Stardust Mirror

(631 posts)
17. thanks for that reference
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 07:57 PM
Dec 13

I like learning new things.

I've never studied the French Revolution, just had an extended online convo w someone who seemed to know, and I took those brief notes.

EverHopeful

(393 posts)
6. Probably shouldn't post this but an idea just came to me
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 05:31 PM
Dec 13

You know how some of our "Representatives" wear those AR 15 lapel pins? Found quite a few guillotine pins online. May get one with the Christmas money I'm sure to get.

erronis

(17,349 posts)
10. Wonder how many wear AR-15 bullet-proof jackets --- just in case.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 06:49 PM
Dec 13

Of course when that lead starts flying there is no full-body armor that can guarantee survival.

Silent Type

(7,569 posts)
15. Back then, wealth was real-- gold, land, etc. Now it's based mostly on stock value on paper.
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 07:19 PM
Dec 13

If we liquidated all that, we wouldn’t find much value.

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