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PCIntern

(27,059 posts)
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 07:05 PM Dec 15

One more post for the day...sorry.

But I had a thought…
You know, the last time Trump was president, we wound up with a pandemic for which he was utterly incapable of handling like a human being as it cost Americans dearly and likely it is what may have been responsible for the Biden Interregnum.

Whatever this UFO/UAP is: whether it is international, intergovernmental, or interplanetary, something is going on, and whatever it is his merry little band of incompetent, drunken, lazy, malevolent liars are not going to be able to bullshit their way through this. In my lifetime there have been a handful of game-changers: Sputnik, the JFK assassination, the MLK assassination, the fall of the Iron Curtain, 9/11, and the COVID Pandemic and yes, there have been other events but for the sake of argument, I’m choosing these. This may be a member of that category.

I am well aware that many here do not subscribe to what they might term “science fiction” but whatever is going on is going to require lots of explanations, whether it be a domestic operation, that of a foreign power, or more, shall we say, esoteric. This group can’t cut it and Orangina certainly cannot.

Popcorn, anyone??

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One more post for the day...sorry. (Original Post) PCIntern Dec 15 OP
There will be some kind of Black Swan event Ocelot II Dec 15 #1
Rec for the Star Wars reference :) yliza Dec 15 #35
You can be sure something of importance will happen... Think. Again. Dec 15 #2
The Cuban missile crisis. mobeau69 Dec 15 #3
True. Thx. PCIntern Dec 15 #8
IIRC the USSR did not trust Castro and he had dummy missiles. GreenWave Dec 15 #10
I hope nobody here seriously thinks it could be "interplanetary" JoseBalow Dec 15 #4
We don't need aliens; we can make our own messes. Ocelot II Dec 15 #7
Mars could be pissed at all the trash we send over there. GreenWave Dec 15 #11
Did Musk leave already??? COL Mustard Dec 15 #26
That is who they are looking for. GemDigger Dec 15 #34
That reminds me to accumulate his BS about his Martian colony. GreenWave Dec 16 #37
I happen to keep an open mind... PCIntern Dec 15 #14
Sorry, I wouldn't try to explain something I don't know about JoseBalow Dec 15 #18
That's wonderful... PCIntern Dec 15 #28
Close enough! JoseBalow Dec 15 #29
Based on ForgedCrank Dec 15 #32
Why not? FoxNewsSucks Dec 15 #24
Why assume that I assume that? JoseBalow Dec 15 #25
Thanks for the offer -- I brought extra butter for your popcorn Hekate Dec 15 #5
'incompetent, drunken, lazy, malevolent liars are not going to be able to bullshit their way through this.,' elleng Dec 15 #6
last time Trump sailed on Obama's accomplishments Skittles Dec 15 #9
whoa... interesting insight. yup - lotsa crisis. bluboid Dec 15 #31
The UAPs that are the size of refrigerators and can stay up long periods of time hovering... AntiFascist Dec 15 #12
I could easily believe the RepubliCONs DENVERPOPS Dec 15 #15
I hope it's the aliens coming to save the world from tRump. alittlelark Dec 15 #13
Then you also lived through Satanic Panic and the Pizzeria Basements. Iggo Dec 15 #16
There will ALWAYS be something. usonian Dec 15 #17
I think I'll need something stronger than popcorn. surfered Dec 15 #19
If we're going microdot... Iggo Dec 15 #20
I quit smoking, it was unhealthy. surfered Dec 15 #22
Oh, me too, like twenty years ago. Iggo Dec 15 #23
We're lucky we made it this far. surfered Dec 15 #27
So true. Iggo Dec 15 #36
we're going to be ripe for a terrorist attack Takket Dec 15 #21
Here's one future crisis that is inevitable: WestMichRad Dec 15 #30
Thanks, I'll have some Clouds Passing Dec 15 #33
How can people possibly say that they 'know' that extra-terrestrial craft do not exist? Kid Berwyn Dec 20 #38
Wow. You found that... PCIntern Dec 20 #40
Shows you haven't changed a bit -- or your story. Kid Berwyn Dec 20 #41
I'm more worried about the bird flu cases emerging around the country... Wounded Bear Dec 20 #39

Ocelot II

(121,675 posts)
1. There will be some kind of Black Swan event
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 07:08 PM
Dec 15

that Trump's Mos Eisley Cantina barflies won't be able to handle. Maybe this is it; maybe it will be something else. But it will most certainly be an epic goat-fuck. Stay tuned.

yliza

(108 posts)
35. Rec for the Star Wars reference :)
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 10:04 PM
Dec 15

Plus I agree with you. The orange menace’s proposed cabinet is a national security nightmare, and the unqualified grifting yes men who will fill critical government roles won’t have a clue how to respond should anything happen. I’d say I’m glad I’m in Canada but the conservatives might just unseat Trudeau next year.

Think. Again.

(19,456 posts)
2. You can be sure something of importance will happen...
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 07:11 PM
Dec 15

...in the next 4 years and be completely screwed up by the incoming nazi administration.

Probably many things.

PCIntern

(27,059 posts)
14. I happen to keep an open mind...
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:12 PM
Dec 15

But always willing to listen. So perhaps you might be able to cogently explain to me how experienced military and airline pilots have described the non-ballistic motion of these objects, “obviously” of terrestrial origin, to have “impossible” maneuverability and “unimaginable” speed. Thanks in advance for your insights.

JoseBalow

(5,785 posts)
18. Sorry, I wouldn't try to explain something I don't know about
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:37 PM
Dec 15

Neither would I ascribe something I don't understand to aliens, or gods, or other such nonsense. I'm of a more scientific and reality-based nature.

PCIntern

(27,059 posts)
28. That's wonderful...
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 09:21 PM
Dec 15

So you have no idea what it is, but know exactly what it isn’t. I thank you for your perspicacity!!

ForgedCrank

(2,431 posts)
32. Based on
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 09:47 PM
Dec 15

what I know about the universe currently (which is of course a layman's level), I do not think these objects that have been witnessed over time have traveled here from other places through space. I say this simply because of the distances involved, and the currently understood limits in the physical realm. The size and distances involved simply cannot be be understood by scale in the human mind, even as much as we think we have a grasp on it, it's still bigger. We can compare to known examples, but that still doesn't put it into true perspective.
IF these objects are not human invention (general reference, not about the drone thing), I believe the only possibility is something else that we currently consider sci-fi, which is dimensional travel, objects from other planes that we are not even aware of. There is a lot of fringe theory about it, but still just wild speculation. I just can't see how travel through space from another galaxy, or even the other side of our own, is physically possible. So I am left with theory.
The easiest and most probably answer is that these are human created vehicles, and that is what I believe is going on with the drone thing right now. Most photos show nothing more than distant lights, and the ones that are close-up and blurry show standard navigation lights in required configurations. I personally believe this is our own authorities searching for something, a something they are unwilling to share with us at the moment for whatever reasons.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,844 posts)
24. Why not?
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:53 PM
Dec 15

Whether one believes in creation by a non-corporeal deity or evolution, why assume this planet is the only place it happened?

JoseBalow

(5,785 posts)
25. Why assume that I assume that?
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 09:03 PM
Dec 15

Because I don't believe in the evidence-free theory that we're being visited by aliens?

Hekate

(95,475 posts)
5. Thanks for the offer -- I brought extra butter for your popcorn
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 07:17 PM
Dec 15


Whatever it is in store for the Apricot Hellbeast and the rest of his zoo — they don’t have the brains, vision, foresight, or knowledge base to deal with it. The Muskrat and the other Techbros are, I am increasingly convinced, a pack of idiots savant.

elleng

(137,065 posts)
6. 'incompetent, drunken, lazy, malevolent liars are not going to be able to bullshit their way through this.,'
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 07:19 PM
Dec 15

HELL NO!!!!

Skittles

(160,529 posts)
9. last time Trump sailed on Obama's accomplishments
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 07:30 PM
Dec 15

Last edited Sun Dec 15, 2024, 10:37 PM - Edit history (1)

then Trump totally BOMBED when real leadership was called for during the covid crisis

this time I think the GOP will be creating a lot of crisis

AntiFascist

(12,976 posts)
12. The UAPs that are the size of refrigerators and can stay up long periods of time hovering...
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 07:53 PM
Dec 15

may be packed with equipment collecting intel. Since this all started in an area near Bedminster, my guess is it may be the Broligarchy testing out their capabilities under the guise of securing Bedminster, but now testing the waters of public acceptance by spreading out into greater areas while surveilling infrastructure, military sites, etc. Since there are few regulations at present, they are likely operating legally, and the Biden Admin can't do anything about it. Now, with all the public hysteria, there's too many other drones, false sightings, and idiotic theories adding to the noise and covering up the truth about what started this.

Since the cost of mass deportations would be so incredibly expensive, Occam's Razor suggests that this type of technology might be used to rat out illegals, especially if it contains radar that could penetrate people's homes and track movements.

DENVERPOPS

(10,223 posts)
15. I could easily believe the RepubliCONs
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:26 PM
Dec 15

testing drones with laser potential to provide security to gated communities, Trumps properties and all fortune 500 Corporate headquarters.....

and later, providing surveillance for crowd control at future demonstrations......

alittlelark

(18,928 posts)
13. I hope it's the aliens coming to save the world from tRump.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:09 PM
Dec 15

Seriously - a girl can dream can’t she? 👽



Iggo

(48,606 posts)
16. Then you also lived through Satanic Panic and the Pizzeria Basements.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:30 PM
Dec 15

Think critically, please.

usonian

(14,894 posts)
17. There will ALWAYS be something.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:30 PM
Dec 15

And the big deal is in being able to handle it or only able to find someone to blame.

And there you've got it.

surfered

(3,933 posts)
19. I think I'll need something stronger than popcorn.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:41 PM
Dec 15

Maybe a purple microdot, followed by a few gummies, and topped off with vodka taken intravenously.

Iggo

(48,606 posts)
20. If we're going microdot...
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:43 PM
Dec 15

…I’m gonna need an unlimited supply of water and about a carton of smokes.

Iggo

(48,606 posts)
23. Oh, me too, like twenty years ago.
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:51 PM
Dec 15

But if I’m takin’ up frying again, might as well bring back the cigs.

Takket

(22,691 posts)
21. we're going to be ripe for a terrorist attack
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 08:45 PM
Dec 15

these idiots have no idea what they are doing, they are just going to start firing anyone that won't like drumpf's taint and we're going to find out the hard way that government employees actually DO things, like protect us from terrorists. And with Tulsi running our intelligence she might just intentionally help the process along.

with our guard down, i could easily Russia pulling off a major terrorist attack (of course "evidence" will point at someone else) knowing the country is already on the edge of falling apart and a major attack could pretty much divide the country beyond repair.

WestMichRad

(1,918 posts)
30. Here's one future crisis that is inevitable:
Sun Dec 15, 2024, 09:28 PM
Dec 15

The breakdown of global supply chains. Demographics expert Peter Ziehan explained this at length in his book The End of the World is Just the Beginning. (You can read a brief summary here: https://www.shortform.com/blog/peter-zeihan-population/ )
What he has written (several years ago) about China's economic shakiness is already happening.
The collapse of global supply chains will massively screw up the world order.


The TSF Gang of Sycophants wouldn’t know a supply chain if it bit ‘em in their collective arses. Isolationism will make things worse for everyone worldwide.

Kid Berwyn

(18,462 posts)
38. How can people possibly say that they 'know' that extra-terrestrial craft do not exist?
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 02:46 PM
Dec 20

That's how the great DUer PCIntern put it in 2010:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8751853

As always with this subject, the responses are interesting, too.

Kid Berwyn

(18,462 posts)
41. Shows you haven't changed a bit -- or your story.
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 04:47 PM
Dec 20

Nor has the Flock changed its tune, despite new developments, let alone, shall we say, realities?

Wounded Bear

(60,900 posts)
39. I'm more worried about the bird flu cases emerging around the country...
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 02:48 PM
Dec 20

If they weaken the NIH/CDC we're screwed again by basically the same shit from the same people.

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