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global1

(25,960 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 01:08 PM Dec 16

Maybe A Dumb Question But - Is A Child Born With Autism Or......

does a child become autistic after they get the vaccine?

What is RFK Jr's thoughts about this? What so scientist say?

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Ocelot II

(121,502 posts)
1. The notion that vaccines cause autism has been thoroughly debunked.
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 01:11 PM
Dec 16
Vaccines do not cause autism. A small study in 1998 suggested a link between vaccinations and autism spectrum disorder. The study was reviewed further and retracted. In addition, the author's medical license was revoked due to falsified information.

Since then, numerous studies have debunked a connection between autism and the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine.

In April 2015, JAMA published the largest study to date, analyzing the health records of over 95,000 children. About 2,000 of those children were classified at risk for autism because they had a sibling already diagnosed with autism. The study confirmed that the MMR vaccine did not increase the risk for autism spectrum disorder.
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/autism-vaccine-link-debunked

Passages

(1,430 posts)
3. No one should listen to RFK Jr about any vaccine, NONE.
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 01:13 PM
Dec 16

Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is a developmental disability. It can look different for each child. It can affect day-to-day life. Children with ASD have developmental differences in their communication, social interactions, and behavior.

ASD occurs in up to one in 44 children (or 23 per 1,000) in the United States. Males are four times more likely to have autism than females, with autism occurring in 36.5 per 1,000 males and 8.8 per 1,000 females. Symptoms of ASD can appear as early as 12-18 months of age.

What Causes Autism in Children?
The cause of ASD is not known. Scientists believe it is caused by both genetic and environmental factors. Vaccines do not cause autism. It is also not caused by parenting.

https://www.cincinnatichildrens.org/health/a/autism#:~:text=The%20cause%20of%20ASD%20is,also%20not%20caused%20by%20parenting.

meadowlander

(4,764 posts)
4. It's genetic. And it's a neurological variation, not a disease.
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 01:16 PM
Dec 16
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26709141/

Autistic people are autistic people not "people with autism".

Trellastic

(49 posts)
6. It's congenital.
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 01:19 PM
Dec 16

From what I've seen, people on the autism spectrum show differences from infancy. For instance- Some sleep less, hyperfocus on certain things, can throw a long temper tantrum and make precocious statements at a young age. Of course there is a broad spectrum and everyone's a unique individual.

It could be as the saying goes, genetics load the gun and environment pulls the trigger.

Fiendish Thingy

(18,816 posts)
7. An autism diagnosis isn't usually made until/unless there are significant delays in communications development
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 01:32 PM
Dec 16

Usually after the age of two, although in hindsight other symptoms and behavior patterns are often noted.

eppur_se_muova

(37,666 posts)
8. Signs of autism usually emerge about the same age vaccines are administered ...
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 03:39 PM
Dec 16

leading some to assume a causal effect, rather than just a coincidence. Multiple medical studies have failed to find any causal connection, however, and warning signs of autism often appear much earlier, but are ambiguous and difficult to interpret.

There have been numerous reports of partial success in identifying signs of predisposition to autism as early as the second trimester. There are also genetic tests for genes associated with autism. Unfortunately, none are definitive, and none are likely ever to be, given the extreme variability in autism spectrum disorders.

So no simple answers, except to say that someone without a congenital predisposition to autism is most unlikely to develop autism, according to all the best evidence to date.

Many anti-vaxers continue to cite a deeply, multiply flawed "study" by a British doctor named Wakefield. It has been thoroughly analyzed and debunked, but, zombie-like, continues to wander the Internet, refusing to die.

https://www.chop.edu/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/vaccines-and-other-conditions/autism#thewakefieldstudies
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2831678/ (retraction of original paper in The Lancet)

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