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Montauk6

(8,782 posts)
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 09:29 PM Dec 19

Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Uncommitted) implores the President to do the right thing

Immigrants and allies at U.S. Capitol urge Biden to act before Trump deportations begin
By: Shauneen Miranda - December 17, 2024 3:44 pm

WASHINGTON — In the crucial last month before President Joe Biden leaves office, immigrants and allies on Tuesday urged the president to offer protections for immigrant communities before Donald Trump is inaugurated.”

The president-elect has promised the largest deportation in U.S. history, stoking fear and uncertainty among undocumented immigrants and immigration advocates over a sweeping platform that marked the core of Trump’s GOP presidential campaign.

(SNIP)

U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib also voiced her concerns Tuesday over the president-elect’s immigration plans.

“We cannot underestimate, as you all know, what will unfold the moment Trump takes office in January, and we need as many people as possible working to resist this hateful agenda,” the Michigan Democrat said.

https://newjerseymonitor.com/2024/12/17/dc/immigrants-and-allies-at-u-s-capitol-urge-biden-to-act-before-trump-deportations-begin/
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Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Uncommitted) implores the President to do the right thing (Original Post) Montauk6 Dec 19 OP
Not sure there is much Biden can do. Raven123 Dec 19 #1
Had Harris been elected, we wouldn't be in any of this shit. Initech Dec 19 #4
Can he pardon them or give the censure ( don't know if this arthritisR_US Dec 20 #27
The same rep. that implored people to vote uncommitted in the primary. rogue emissary Dec 19 #2
Yep, only in the primary. Think. Again. Dec 19 #11
A few days before the election JustAnotherGen Dec 19 #14
Yep Trenzalore Dec 20 #32
I can't look it up because I'm out, but she did stuff well after the primary Polybius Dec 19 #15
Nope. Even at the convention, she did not support Harris. LeftInTX Dec 19 #22
Tlaib refused to endorse Biden in 2020 and Harris in 2024, and she's the only Democrat in Congress lapucelle Dec 20 #35
Preach! sheshe2 Dec 20 #36
Wait a sec. RandySF Dec 19 #3
It's Tragic.. Many of them Voted for Stein or TSF in the Cha Dec 19 #12
Orange Joker hasn't even The Unmitigated Gall Dec 19 #5
Now she wants his help with 30 days left of his term. sheshe2 Dec 19 #6
I like Rashida however ThePartyThatListens Dec 19 #7
Rashida still has somewhat of a following. Great. oasis Dec 19 #8
Is Tlaib one of the up and coming new stars we are hearing so much about? sheshe2 Dec 19 #9
I can't post everything i think JustAnotherGen Dec 19 #16
I hear you loud and clear, JAG. sheshe2 Dec 19 #19
Is there a good reason why today's leaders should not seek out wnylib Dec 19 #25
Hey mate, this shouldn't just be a reply it should be an OP, it arthritisR_US Dec 20 #29
The Democrats actually have a procedure for mentoring new committee leaders lapucelle Dec 20 #34
K&R Think. Again. Dec 19 #10
Yes they should, protect those families right fecking now! arthritisR_US Dec 20 #30
She didn't do "the right thing" and now she Cha Dec 19 #13
She should have thought about that before the election Polybius Dec 19 #17
She did all she could do to help get us here Historic NY Dec 19 #18
Didn't she refuse to endorse Harris? The Third Doctor Dec 19 #20
She needs to piss off Blue_Tires Dec 19 #21
I believe this is the find out part of the game bottomofthehill Dec 19 #23
She can bug off as far as I'm concerned. Never liked her. awesomerwb1 Dec 19 #24
She is not worth a hide! FHRRK Dec 20 #26
LOL LOL LOL I got one over her! LeftInTX Dec 20 #33
No no no, no working with the evil establishment elite. That would be, like, morally impure. betsuni Dec 20 #28
IKR, what about all that "Genocide Joe" jazz? Montauk6 Dec 20 #37
Huh. Well, that's pretty ironic. Scrivener7 Dec 20 #31

Raven123

(6,161 posts)
1. Not sure there is much Biden can do.
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 09:34 PM
Dec 19

Had Harris been elected, we wouldn’t be looking at mass deportations.

Initech

(102,630 posts)
4. Had Harris been elected, we wouldn't be in any of this shit.
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 09:39 PM
Dec 19

But nope, the US is a country run by and for greedy, wealthy sociopaths who are out for absolute power and we're stuck with the fucking asshole again.

arthritisR_US

(7,657 posts)
27. Can he pardon them or give the censure ( don't know if this
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 12:08 AM
Dec 20

is the correct legal term, I’m a psychologist not a lawyer)?

JustAnotherGen

(33,887 posts)
14. A few days before the election
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 10:22 PM
Dec 19

She had painted herself into a corner.

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2024-11-03/ty-article/.premium/tlaib-urges-voters-to-oppose-trump-but-withholds-support-for-harris-stirring-controversy/00000192-f2fd-de0c-a7db-fbfd76490000




Haaretz | U.S. News

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b]Tlaib Urges Voters to Oppose Trump but Withholds Support for Harris, Stirring Controversy
At a Michigan rally, Rep. Rashida Tlaib, a vocal critic of the Biden-Harris administration's support for Israel in the Gaza war, spoke against Trump but stopped short of endorsing Harris. Her stance has drawn mixed reactions within the party as Election Day approaches


It's too late, and I'm too tired. In Spring of 2018 I helped organize and spoke at a major rally in my county in opposition to child separation. I went to the Newark Airport. I engaged several attorneys I know to do pro bono work to help those seeking asylum.

Half of those who voted - voted for President Elect Leon. About 90 million eligible did not vote.

I'm one woman with a small stage. Rashida had a HUGE stage. She could have offered full throated support for Harris but her ego got in the way.

I'm glad she's putting in the effort - but its going nowhere.

I did my part. It's time for the non voters to do something. They can organize and fight - I'm resting.

Polybius

(18,526 posts)
15. I can't look it up because I'm out, but she did stuff well after the primary
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 10:26 PM
Dec 19

I can't remember, but it might have been a non-endorsement. I posted it in LBN in late October.

LeftInTX

(30,943 posts)
22. Nope. Even at the convention, she did not support Harris.
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 11:06 PM
Dec 19

Did not encourage anyone to vote for her.

lapucelle

(19,611 posts)
35. Tlaib refused to endorse Biden in 2020 and Harris in 2024, and she's the only Democrat in Congress
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 03:23 PM
Dec 20

who supports a single state solution.

And now she thinks there's an executive order that would magically prevent Trump from doing what he told us for a year he was planning to do? Sounds like the group either doesn't know how executive orders work or they're setting up another "blame Biden" narrative.

Put the blame where it lies: with Trump voters, with third party voters, with "Abandon Harris" assholes, with the lazy stay-at-homes, and with anyone who gave them outright or implicit permission to not show up by badmouthing the Democratic Party.

"Opposing Trump" was not enough, and unfortunately, we will ALL soon be entering the the "find out" portion of the program. They need to take responsibility and apologize.

RandySF

(71,207 posts)
3. Wait a sec.
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 09:34 PM
Dec 19

The "Democrat" who actively opposed Biden and then Harris is trying to tell said president what to do?


Funny.

Cha

(305,910 posts)
12. It's Tragic.. Many of them Voted for Stein or TSF in the
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 10:07 PM
Dec 19

Swing States.

How's that working out for them?

And, the rest of the GD World.

sheshe2

(88,338 posts)
6. Now she wants his help with 30 days left of his term.
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 09:42 PM
Dec 19
Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib tells fellow Democrats: reject Biden in primary
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/18/rashida-tlaib-joe-biden-michigan-democratic-primary

Un effing believable. This is on you girl.

sheshe2

(88,338 posts)
9. Is Tlaib one of the up and coming new stars we are hearing so much about?
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 09:51 PM
Dec 19

Is she one of the young new dynamic Congress peeps that the oldsters should step aside for, because, ya know...they are our future!

JustAnotherGen

(33,887 posts)
16. I can't post everything i think
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 10:26 PM
Dec 19

On this topuc - I'll catch you offline for that.

I'll leave this here:

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sheshe2

(88,338 posts)
19. I hear you loud and clear, JAG.
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 10:38 PM
Dec 19

A little too late but she is not really sorry.

I will catch you later.

wnylib

(24,909 posts)
25. Is there a good reason why today's leaders should not seek out
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 11:54 PM
Dec 19

Last edited Fri Dec 20, 2024, 02:55 AM - Edit history (1)

smart, capable younger people to support and mentor in order to prepare them to be tomorrow's leaders when today's leaders are gone? Today's leaders are not immortal.

Did you think that Barack Obama was too young when he ran for president in 2008? I heard several people say that. Of course they really meant that he was too Black. Ted Kennedy did not think that Obama was too young to endorse and support.

Is there any value in blocking capable people from advancing so that they can gain the additional experience that will improve their wisdom and leadership abilities for when today's leaders are gone?

I do not count Rashid among the people that I would support, regardless of age, because of her political views and actions.

I could support AOC because she has demonstrated an intelligent grasp of issues, skill in questioning and challenging people during hearings, courage in facing down opponents in Congress, and commitment to the values of democracy. She went into Congress with what I thought was some arrogance about running things without any experience. But she has since demonstrated an ability to listen, watch, learn, and develop awareness of procedures and the need to grow and learn.

Experience and wisdom gathered over many years of living have made President Biden the best president of my lifetime, so I have supported him. But even he started out as a green Congressman who rose through the ranks. I supported Hillary Clinton because of her experience, knowledge, and skills accumulated over many years of public service.

OTOH, age and experience have not given McConnell an ounce of wisdom.

If our republic survives the fascist oligarchs, who will be our leaders in 10 or 20 years? I might be around in 10 years, but I'm sure I won't still be here in 20 years. Neither will Pelosi, Biden, or Bill and Hillary. Jeffries will likely still be alive and still in government, I hope. So will AOC and Jasmine Crockett. I'm betting that David Hogg will be in Congress in 20 years. Jamie Raskin will be 82 in 20 years, probably still sharp as ever and I hope physically healthy, but perhaps ready to retire.

It is the natural order of things that younger people must rise through the ranks in order to gain the knowledge and experience that they will need when it is time for them to take over. After this year's election results, we might be able to use some fresh ideas and perspectives added to the mix of older, experienced leaders.







arthritisR_US

(7,657 posts)
29. Hey mate, this shouldn't just be a reply it should be an OP, it
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 12:20 AM
Dec 20

was so fecking spot on and you nailed it, TY! 👍🏼👏🏼🤗

lapucelle

(19,611 posts)
34. The Democrats actually have a procedure for mentoring new committee leaders
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 02:02 PM
Dec 20

in their House rules.

Rules Governing House Committee and Subcommittee Assignment Procedures

Within the Democratic Caucus, the Democrats on the committee are responsible for electing vice chairs when in the majority and vice ranking members when in the minority. As with most other elected positions with the caucus, when there is more than one candidate for the position, the vote is held by secret ballot unless waived.

To be eligible to serve in this role, a Member must have been on the committee for less than five terms and may only hold the position for one term.

These restrictions reflect the caucus’s intent that the positions serve as “an opportunity for a junior Member to gain insight and experience into the workings of the committee.”

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R46786
see page 11


Think. Again.

(19,379 posts)
10. K&R
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 09:56 PM
Dec 19

Edit to add:

Before anyone bashes me, yes, I absolutely 100% agree that Biden should do all he can to "offer protections for immigrant communities before Donald Trump is inaugurated.”

(I won't be responding to any replies about any topics that are completely unrelated to this call for immigrant protections)

Cha

(305,910 posts)
13. She didn't do "the right thing" and now she
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 10:13 PM
Dec 19

WANTS IT DONE?

She should have been out Campaigning for Harris or did she think life in Gaza would be better under TSF.

Polybius

(18,526 posts)
17. She should have thought about that before the election
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 10:28 PM
Dec 19

All I heard was Palestine, Palestine, Palestine.

The Third Doctor

(391 posts)
20. Didn't she refuse to endorse Harris?
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 10:50 PM
Dec 19

This was after the uncommitted primary vote movement. She told voters two separate things and I bet many just didn't vote. This would not be happening if Harris won. Tlaib was part of the problem. There us very little Biden can do. The leopards are going to have weight loss new years resolutions .

Blue_Tires

(57,038 posts)
21. She needs to piss off
Thu Dec 19, 2024, 10:54 PM
Dec 19

She grossly overplayed her hand on Gaza, and now we're all living with the consequences

FHRRK

(989 posts)
26. She is not worth a hide!
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 12:03 AM
Dec 20

She is not worth a hide!
She is not worth a hide! She is not worth a hide!
She is not worth a hide! She is not worth a hide! She is not worth a hide!
She is not worth a hide! She is not worth a hide! She is not worth a hide! She is not worth a hide!
She is not worth a hide! She is not worth a hide! She is not worth a hide! She is not worth a hide! She is not worth a hide!

betsuni

(27,331 posts)
28. No no no, no working with the evil establishment elite. That would be, like, morally impure.
Fri Dec 20, 2024, 12:14 AM
Dec 20

Youth is always right and Trump's election was the populist Will of the People. Go down with the ship.

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