The fall of Joe Scarborough happened the day after the election

[Dem4life1970]

It seems that people really started abandoning Morning Joe when they heard about the bended knee
Mara Lago trip that Joe and Mika made and then tried to sell on air.

I have been watching Morning Joe since 2017, but when I woke up the morning after the election and heard
Joe announcing that Trump's victory was "Reagan like" I didn't see a maps so I started wondering, did he win 49 states? As we now know after all the votes were counted, his victory was actually quite mushroom sized (i.e. very small-3rd smallest since 1888 and he won a plurality not a majority, the majority voted for someone else for President).

I was shocked as to why Joe would be saying something so patently false comparing Trump's victory to a landslide, esp. when he won 6 more electoral votes than he did in 2016. Something didn't smell right. Then a few days or a week later, we heard about the obeying in advance trip they made to Florida.

I was truly shocked that even Joe could be lulled into the con that is Don the Convict.

Good riddance...

[SheltieLover]

1. I never understood how anyone could watch joe scum & his wife

[Self Esteem]

2. People have abandoned MSNBC in general.

It's not just his ratings.

Maddow's ratings also have dropped significantly since Trump won. Her ratings are down 45% since Trump's election.

[Trueblue Texan]

22. It's not so much that I've abandoned MSNBC...

...because it's the only network I trusted--at least 3 of the journalists: Nicole Wallace, Rachel Maddow, and Lawrence O'Donnell. I just don't have the bandwidth for any media at all right now. I'm just taking care of myself now and I am so, so, SO sick of hearing about TSF from ANY source. I just can't take it anymore--at least for now. DU is the way I take my news now so I can filter it as much as I need to.

[Self Esteem]

30. I mean, regardless of your reason, it still sounds like you abandoned it.

At least for now.

[Trueblue Texan]

39. I still consider myself a loyal viewer...

I just can't view anything right now. People with broken legs don't abandon walking. They just take time to heal before resuming the activity the way they did in the past.

[Self Esteem]

44. I don't think that makes you a loyal viewer.

A loyal viewer would watch through thick and thin. You abandoned MSNBC. You might come back to it. But you abandoned it.

Your example doesn't work because breaking a leg precludes you from walking. It's not a choice). You are making the active choice to not watch MSNBC.

I'll admit I am not a loyal viewer. I don't watch MSNBC and haven't since probably 2012.

[Trueblue Texan]

47. We obviously have a different opinion...

...and a different measure for loyalty. Watching any news is too painful right now and would throw me entirely off balance mentally, much as walking on a broken leg would be painful and compromise balance. You sound judgmental. Is that your intention?

[Meadowoak]

52. same here, I'm a loyal MSNBC viewer, I've been watching for 20 years. But I just need a break right now.

I'll come back after the Holidays. I think many, many people feel the same right now.

[Self Esteem]

55. Again, it doesn't matter the reasons. You're not a viewer at this time.

You are not watching MSNBC. I don't doubt the justification behind your reasons. I think they're valid. But at this time, you are not a viewer of MSNBC.

[Trueblue Texan]

58. Not viewing any media via television and mostly avoiding all media...nt

[TexLaProgressive]

53. You should give it up

You're not being helpful and awfully judgmental.

[Self Esteem]

56. I am not judging anyone.

I think it's perfectly valid to not want to watch MSNBC (whatever the reason). But if you're not watching MSNBC, you are not a viewer. It doesn't matter how frequently you watched it in the past or when you plan on returning. At this time, they're not a viewer and that goes to the overall point that so many seem to be missing: MSNBC is hemorrhaging viewers. Guess what? Of those Nielsen viewers who have stopped watching Rachel, they don't continue to count 'em as viewers just because they watched her religiously every day for the last ten years.

[claudette]

76. Sure

seems like you are. He’s very clear

[NoRethugFriends]

54. Pretty judgemental

[Self Esteem]

57. Truth isn't judgement.

No more than pointing out someone who is jobless is unemployed. That isn't judging them or their situation. This person can claim to be a loyal viewer but they're not watching so they're not a viewer and therefore not a loyal one. And that's fine. Maybe in a few months when they return, they can go back to loyally watching MSNBC. But they're not doing that right now.

And it's hurting MSNBC. It's not just Morning Joe. It's every single show who now has lost a huge chunk of their viewers.

Maybe that come back but if you're a fan of Rachel and those other shows, just hope that when they do, Rachel hasn't been canceled or MSNBC sold to Elon.

[Trueblue Texan]

59. So if I was in the hospital in a coma, my not watching MSNBC would be abandonment?

Just asking because you seem to have such a strong handle on truth and loyalty.

[NoRethugFriends]

60. Me thanks now dost protest too much

June 2024

[Karma13612]

62. EXACTLY my feelings!

I can’t stomach it right now.

I was ingesting MSNBC like delicious desserts every night leading up to election night. When I turned off the TV at 1AM on November 6th, in tears and shaking, I couldn’t think straight.

My thoughts have been:
What good would it do to return to listen to my favorite pundits? What were they going to tell me? That it would be OK after they had filled me with hope? And had told us how bad another Trump presidency would be? Or were they going to say it’s gonna suck and we’ll be here to bring you all the horrid details that none of us can control.

I just can’t. I get my news online from reputable sources. I’ve taken my pension out of the stock market and have it in a safe money market type account until I see things settle down. At 70, if we have another 2008 crash, I won’t live long enuf for it to recover. I pray we don’t lose SS and Medicare.

[yaesu]

25. Maddow was the only network of any kind show I watched, I no longer watch any. I mean, why bother. nt

[spooky3]

27. Why are you linking to a right wing source? Nt

[Self Esteem]

29. I linked to Yahoo.

[spooky3]

34. The story there is clearly labeled as "Fox News." That is a right wing source. Nt

[Self Esteem]

43. It was on Yahoo.

Here's the NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/13/business/media/msnbc-fox-news-ratings-election.html

[spooky3]

45. Don't you understand? Yahoo frequently "reprints" articles from other sources. In this case, it was from Fox News.

That does not negate the fact that the original source, Fox News, is a right wing source. There may be some facts in a story that are reported correctly, but there is also typical right wing spin in this article as in others. See DU TOS.

[Self Esteem]

46. Don't you understand that I don't care?

I only pointed out that MSNBC as a whole is hemorrhaging viewers. It's not just Morning Joe.

[Happy Hoosier]

72. Two things here....

1) I don't have cable anymore, and MSNBC doesn't offer a legal stream.

2) I need some space from this. I poured a great deal of emotion into this election and it broke my fucking heart. I need some space to realize that my country is NOT what I wish it were and that will likely never be so again within my lifetime. I will be back at it, and I'd watch Rachel wherever she is.... in a little bit. Still need some space.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

3. I stopped watching years ago. its irritating the way he talks over Mika

[mobeau69]

16. That was part of the show.

[3Hotdogs]

17. I beat'ja.

I never watched 'em in the first place.

[allegorical oracle]

4. I still watch. A) liberal guests, B) Lawrence, C) S. Ruhle and Chris Hayes. There's

far too few left-leaning sites where I can see some rational thought processes. Am not going to let Joe and Mika determine my viewing fare.

[SallyHemmings]

7. Way to Early & Lawrence

Because of my schedule, I listen to Way to Early on my commute. Lawrence highlights during my workout.

2 hours of talking head news is more than enough at this point.

The only thing I want to hear about VP trump that he is being buried next to the stolen documents.

[BonnieJW]

15. How about

burying him next to wife #1 at Bedminster? Then the weeds can take over and we can forget all about him.

[elleng]

9. Thanks, I agree.

I watch IF and when I'm awake, so 'occasionally.'

[BComplex]

28. If you like Lawrence and Chris, you might love Joy Reid. She's great!

We record her shows so we won't miss anything.

[allegorical oracle]

42. Oh I watch her frequently, too. Much of my choice is based on their guests. But she's

terrific.

[Scrivener7]

5. I'm shocked you're shocked. He normalized trump in 2015. If it weren't for Scarborough, trump would

never have won even the first time around.

[msongs]

6. cheap tv hack prostituting himself for money. nt

[lindysalsagal]

8. Wait- Joe's off air?????????

[Takket]

10. as well as it should.......

how are you supposed to take a journalist seriously, and trust what they say, when they are kissing the ring and placing access above truth? OAN/Fox/Newsmax.... there are already three entire networks devoted to drumpf's propaganda. we don't need it on MSNBC too.

[Paladin]

11. Joe who? (nt)

[Mr.Bill]

12. It's somewhat different here on the left coast.

He and Mika are on way too early for me. Sure, I know I can catch his show at a later hour, but I really never watch live news unless it it is, well, live. When he first came on I was not so astounded that a moron like him was on TV, but that he had actually been a member of congress.

Of course if you compare him to others in congress today, he comes off as an elder statesman. How far downhill we have come.

[CTyankee]

13. AFAIK, he's still on, tho he and Mika took a day off. So I guess he and Mika are still there as anchors of the show...

I do think they were shaken by the firestorm they started, tho. It'll be interesting to see what the do next, tho.

[Cha]

14. Omgosh... he said THAT!!

TY

[LetMyPeopleVote]

18. I have NOT watched morning joe since the election

[HereForTheParty]

19. Breitbart named him Liar of the Year

One thing the right and left may agree on.

[surfered]

20. Agreed! We haven't watched since they kissed el Caudillo del Mara-a-Lago's coula.

[Tbear]

21. The first thing I noticed when I woke up the day after

(After I checked DU) was that everyone on MSNBC was wearing black. Except
Joe Blowhole who had on a blue suit, white shirt, and red, white, and blue tie.
Done right there. Never trusted him anyway especially after helping the child king seem legitimate nine years ago.

[iemanja]

23. Where is he going?

I searched the news and didn’t see anything about his leaving MSNBC or his show.

[Aussie105]

26. Nothing to see here.

Joe and Mika have always chosen the 'right words' to appeal to the perceived major sections of their audience.

A little voice in their earpieces told them the 'right words' have changed.

They were always talking heads voicing someone else's opinion.
Sorry if you thought they spoke words gentle to your ears most sincerely and from the heart.
You were fooled!
Staying on the air with a juicy paycheck was all that matters.

[milestogo]

31. He hasn't fallen

He's still on the air with no reduction in salary. Still as smarmy and gross as ever.

[WhiteTara]

32. It's about Joe's dead intern

Lori Klaustusis
https://www.nwfdailynews.com/story/news/2017/12/11/trump-tweet-dredges-up-conspiracy-theories-about-joe-scarborough-aide/16860783007/

On the day an employee, Lori Klausutis, died tragically inside his Fort Walton Beach satellite office, the young Republican congressman engaged in feisty debate with Democrat Anthony Weiner and cast several votes, including one taken not long before the U.S. House adjourned at 9:49 p.m.

Scarborough was hundreds of miles away from Fort Walton Beach when Klausutis, a woman he later told reporters he hardly knew, died. Yet 17 years later, the mention of her name never fails to drag Scarborough into conversations laden with conspiracy theories.

[doc03]

33. I stopped watching the day after the election too, haven't turned on MSNBC, CNN

and certainly not Fox since. I listen to Tham Hartmann a few minutes most days. check out DU and
Stefanie Miller sometimes.

[Blue_Tires]

35. I must be the only person who turned off ALL cable news

Back when Donnie got elected the first time...

[La Coliniere]

36. Never could stand him and his brash loud mouth MR. Know-it-all bullshit

Couldn’t stand his circle of opinionated blobs either except for Rev Al. Don’t get me going on that other host, that fish-faced poser Willie what’s his name, who I read is good friends with Tucker you know who. I haven’t watched the show since the election either, no news for that matter. Free Speech TV programming, a few podcasts, Sirius Progress radio and DU. That’s how I keep up. Can’t take any real corporate news; no MSNBC, CNN or the broadcast networks. I just can’t.

[ecstatic]

37. To be honest, I'm over it now, but I still won't watch because

I'm writing this chapter differently than the last. I cannot start my day off hearing about trump and his antics.

I remember the previous trump term. I would start off every morning wondering if trump was still... healthy... The first show that I would check was Morning Joe. I don't want to waste any more of my life doing that.

If trump checks out during the night, I'll learn about it, probably immediately because everyone knows how much I hate him and my friends will be happy to deliver the news through calls and texts.

I'm slowly allowing myself to watch a little bit of trump coverage at 4:00 p.m. and later hours. But not in the morning. It's not really personal, Joe, but sorry, I gotta go. Also, the one time I tuned in post-election for like 5 minutes, Joe was going off on viewers. Not a good look, at all.

[Littlered]

38. I still watch.

I am actually watching the weekend addition right now.

I don’t really have an opinion about their meeting with trump. I take them at their word until they give me reason to believe otherwise.

One thing I’ve noticed over the decades is that certain elements of the party can’t deal with people that tell them the hard truths about things.

As far as I’m concerned. I like having upsetting news delivered by their team. They always find a way to make it seem less doom and gloom. When people only listen to information you what you want to hear, you aren’t consuming news, you are consuming propaganda.

[Skittles]

51. please tell us what "hard truths" you are referring to

thanks

[ThePartyThatListens]

69. What about "news" with a deceptive bias...?

Is that okay not to watch?

[Littlered]

73. I don't even know what that means.

I personally can’t be gaslit so I don’t know how that applies.

[tavernier]

40. For me it's simple; Trump's face ruins my day.

I can’t turn on any morning news show because his face and big mouth is plastered everywhere. I would rather head off to work whistling the theme from the Andy Griffith show. Eventually later in the afternoon I’ll read on DU any news worth knowing, without having to look at him or to watch that pig anus mouth winking on and off.

[Skittles]

61. I have even taken days off from DU

because I am so, SO sick seeing and hearing about that orange fascist

[videohead5]

41. What's this bended knee stuff?

They went to Mara Lago and kissed Trump's fat ass.

[electric_blue68]

48. I'm not a morning person so I wouldn't watch him anyway I do Listen Via Tune-In radio to...

Usually Joy, sometimes Chris, usually Jen, Rachel, Lawrence, sometimes Stephanie, and very occasionally Ari. Mon - Fri.

I don't know almost anything about the Weekend schedule unless that's when I catch Al at times.

Rachel I knew from (RIP) Air America.

I

[Karma13612]

63. Are you able to hear the whole

Show? Is it a paid subscription app? Do you need a cable subscription to access it?

We are looking for an alternative to cable and hope to access MSNBC even without cable.

[electric_blue68]

65. Oh, yay, I -think- I can be helpful here...

Ok.... Tune-In is an Audio App with music, news, sports, pod casts, and more. Stations from all over.
It's for your phone, and possibly other devices.
I have it on my phone.

It has a free version, and I think 2 different paid versions.

The free version has ads. When I upgraded to a paid version; a short news cast replaced the ads. That got annoying to me so I went back to the free version.

You get the whole shows of MSNBC. 👍

I also listen to my local WNYC-AM/FM public radio, and a few music stations.

Wikipedia has a big article on them to learn more about their services, etc.

Hope this helps!

[Karma13612]

71. THANK YOU !!!!!!!

I will look into this!

[electric_blue68]

75. Very happy I could help you!

[electric_blue68]

49. IF you Don't Want to See Drumphf's mug get the Tune-In Radio app! I don't have a TV currently.

[Skittles]

50. not just the bended knee

his twisted, gaslighting "explanation" - just way off the mark, the man is CLUELESS

[CTyankee]

64. He's an entertainer, nothing more. That's what he gets paid for.

[Skittles]

66. well I never got that part

I have always found him and Mika to be insufferable

[CTyankee]

67. That's part of the show. He's insufferable and she's mika mouse...

I love it when she says "I'll hold my fire right now on that..."

That's her schtick. It's just part of the routine with her and Joe. He's the Bigmouth and she's "Meeka."

[Mike 03]

68. But the "real people" called him up to congratulate him and tell him

he did the right thing, a fantastic thing; it's only the tiny group of "stupid online people" with no lives and who live in our mother's basement who are "haters" and don't understand or appreciate the surreptitious brilliance of Joe and Mika's Mar-a-Lago trip. And they sacrificed for us, the audience, because a closer relationship to Trump means they can put on a better, more honest program. All for us!

[Patton French]

70. It was long before that.

He’s been a blowhard for years.