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Democrats Get Candid About Not Wanting to Talk Trans Rights (Original Post) Celerity Monday OP
It's mostly 2 specific things. Transgender women in sports JI7 Monday #1
Transgender Women in Women's Sports maxsolomon Monday #4
PA had two ads playing non stop Trenzalore Monday #9
the ad with Harris talking about transition surgeries for prisoners rollin74 Monday #14
It definitely worked. BannonsLiver Monday #15
Same as in NC. Played non stop. No other ads played. JanMichael Tuesday #19
oh and transgender healthcare, identity rights, employment non-discrimination rights, etc. Voltaire2 Monday #12
Tolerance is the posture that neutralizes the issues bucolic_frolic Monday #2
Pronouns can be hard to get used to. Intractable Monday #3
Some people want to be called "it". That would be hard for me to adopt Demovictory9 Monday #7
"It" implies they aren't human. I have some problems with words. I have no problem treating people with respect. Intractable Monday #8
How often have you had this problem? Voltaire2 Monday #11
I was taught in school that the word "they" means more than one Polybius Tuesday #18
Untruths, Harris Walz campaigned on trans rights MagickMuffin Monday #5
NOTUS does not have a paywall, I have never been blocked from an article of theirs that required me to pay to view, but Celerity Monday #6
That is an example of the absence of spine that alienates voters. Voltaire2 Monday #10
Results speak for themselves. Clinton And Obama won JI7 Tuesday #16
It's not an issue with a wide enough base of support Blue_Tires Monday #13
That's the thing I'm sering with this issue. When it came to same sex marriage JI7 Tuesday #17

JI7

(90,895 posts)
1. It's mostly 2 specific things. Transgender women in sports
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 04:13 PM
Monday

and restrooms. The sports thing is bigger.

A lot of the other things are right wing exaggerations and lies.

maxsolomon

(35,359 posts)
4. Transgender Women in Women's Sports
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 04:30 PM
Monday

and puberty-blocking drugs for middle-schoolers with Gender Dysphoria. I think the bathroom issue is a distant 3rd now.

There are plenty of Dems that have qualms about both those issues, as overblown as they are. Apparently, in all of NCAA Sports this year, there were TEN transgender women, out of more than a half-million student-athletes.

Trenzalore

(2,559 posts)
9. PA had two ads playing non stop
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 05:12 PM
Monday

Vice President Harris with transition surgeries for prisoners and a group of high-school girls playing basketball against a very tall 20 something year old man in drag. BTW that was 30-40% of their ads so it worked.

rollin74

(2,119 posts)
14. the ad with Harris talking about transition surgeries for prisoners
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 06:31 PM
Monday

was played constantly for weeks here in Nevada as well

BannonsLiver

(18,217 posts)
15. It definitely worked.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 07:08 PM
Monday

Torres is right, in my view. There’s not a lot of political upside sometimes in doing the right thing.

JanMichael

(25,320 posts)
19. Same as in NC. Played non stop. No other ads played.
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:44 PM
Tuesday

Just the sports and surgery ad. Well maybe a few immigration ads. But that's about it.

Voltaire2

(14,879 posts)
12. oh and transgender healthcare, identity rights, employment non-discrimination rights, etc.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 05:43 PM
Monday

and all of that is being taken away, right now, in multiple states. And there is no real problem with bathrooms, and there is no real problem with transgender women in sports. Both of those are the actual focus of rightwing lies and exaggerations, that and of course puberty blockers for transgender children, another manufactured non-real problem but one that has transformed the lives of trans gender youths, allowing them to postpone care decisions until they are adults.

bucolic_frolic

(47,611 posts)
2. Tolerance is the posture that neutralizes the issues
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 04:22 PM
Monday

Tolerance and silence. Because it takes the high road while placing the spotlight on those who choose to display their intolerance. If they want to make an issue out of live and let live, have at it.

Intractable

(596 posts)
3. Pronouns can be hard to get used to.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 04:24 PM
Monday

I personally have problems saying "they" (plural) when I formerly would say "he or she." I would write it as "s/he."

I am not offended by any such things, but I am supposedly "woke."

Those who are less-than-liberal often use gender interpretations as an excuse to be offended.

Intractable

(596 posts)
8. "It" implies they aren't human. I have some problems with words. I have no problem treating people with respect.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 04:46 PM
Monday


I remember the famous Timothy Leary using the word "hir" to mean "him or her." I liked it!

Polybius

(18,368 posts)
18. I was taught in school that the word "they" means more than one
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 10:28 PM
Tuesday

I was very surprised when I found out that it was also used by those who are nonbinary.

MagickMuffin

(17,201 posts)
5. Untruths, Harris Walz campaigned on trans rights
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 04:31 PM
Monday


I watched a lot of their campaign events and they always talked about it.


I don’t really know why Harris Walz is being depicted as being silent because that just isn’t true. Perhaps NOTUS has a hidden agenda, but I keep hearing this about Harris Walz and I am compelled to say something.

Plus NOTUS has a paywall, so I can’t read anymore than what you posted.

https://glaad.org/fact-sheet-harris-education/

https://transequality.org/news/advocates-trans-equality-endorses-vice-president-kamala-harris-president



Celerity

(46,866 posts)
6. NOTUS does not have a paywall, I have never been blocked from an article of theirs that required me to pay to view, but
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 04:42 PM
Monday

here is an archive link anyway

https://archive.ph/5S1i2

Voltaire2

(14,879 posts)
10. That is an example of the absence of spine that alienates voters.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 05:36 PM
Monday

The leadership is constantly pushing the party to the right on economic issues, and now also on social issues. Forever chasing the nonexistent moderate republican voters, because that worked for Clinton, and arguably for Obama. It makes us appear utterly unconvinced of the validity of our own core beliefs.

JI7

(90,895 posts)
16. Results speak for themselves. Clinton And Obama won
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:49 AM
Tuesday

And if they were running instead of Harris they would probably have publicly come out against Transgender women in women's sports and maybe any certain treatments or procedures for minors.

Kamala Harris already had to deal with the misogyny.

Blue_Tires

(56,752 posts)
13. It's not an issue with a wide enough base of support
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 05:51 PM
Monday

My low-information ex-gf (who is now "born again&quot abandoned Harris and wrote in Cornel fuckin' West just because of "forced transition of kids and boys playing girl's sports" 🙄

And even though it had nothing to do with us, that Algerian boxer in the Olympics who became a global controversy after everyone smeared as a man also hurt us badly...

JI7

(90,895 posts)
17. That's the thing I'm sering with this issue. When it came to same sex marriage
Tue Dec 24, 2024, 03:54 AM
Tuesday

most that learned democratic were supporting it. While most Republicans opposed it. There are always a few on both sides that took the opposite position but mostly support and opposition went by party .

But on certain areas concerning transgender people many that lean.left are opposed . Even many gay , lesbian and bi people are opposed.

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