Should we ban cars since they are not protected by th 2nd amendment?

[Wonder Why]

Seems like lots of people are using them to kill others.

The better idea might be to create pedestrian zones at certain hours or all the time on some streets. In Europe they have been using steel barrier poles for 30 years that are lifted up and locked to block vehicles during certain hours. For permanent blocking, concrete barriers work well.

[Iris]

1. You kind of answered your own question.

Europe addressed the actual problem of people using cars as a weapon of terror and mass killing.

The same could be done for guns.

[Jacson6]

2. The 2nd doesn't say weapons. It says arms. Which SCOTUS has always stated that means guns. n/t

[Unladen Swallow]

3. If we ban every single implement

that could ever be used to kill someone, our world would be a very useless and difficult place.

[HereForTheParty]

9. Probably why no one has proposed that

That's just an ignorant right wing talking point - I assume you were being sarcastic.

[Unladen Swallow]

14. Tongue-in-cheek

since someone eluded to banning cars. If there's one thing human being are good at, its killing each other. We will always find a way.

[Wonder Why]

18. The ban comment was a "straw man". The real solution was below it in OP.

[newdeal2]

4. Many cities already implemented those after 9/11

Only practical in areas of with lots of pedestrian activity or in front of important buildings e.g. courthouses.

[Wonder Why]

5. But not on Bourbon Street in New Orleans? Of all places, this is where it should be done.

In our town for blocking streets temporarily, they use hollow long orange barriers designed to be filled with water to provide resistance. But they don't fill them with water, so the only thing they'll stop is a pedestrian who can't jump.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

11. They have bollards on Bourbon street

Apparently they were in the process of being replaced and upgraded.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/01/us/new-orleans-security-bollards-construction-bourbon-street.html]

The street is open to traffic during part of the day, mainly for deliveries and for trash cleanup, but anyone can drive down it if they wanted. They don't usually shut it down till sometime in afternoons. Not every building has alley access there, either due to them simply not existing, or being far too narrow for a vehicle to drive down safely.

[Liberal In Texas]

6. Unlike guns, we require them to be licensed and insured.

And there are tons of regulations they are required to follow. And safety equipment is required by manufacturers to put into the cars.

[Wonder Why]

7. And how does that stop people from intentionally running into crowds?

[Liberal In Texas]

10. I see, your idea is to ban cars completely.

[Wonder Why]

13. In pedestrian areas (permanently) or when there are pedestrian events (temporary).

We have to stop thinking we have to allow vehicles everywhere. Truck deliveries should be done in off-hours (like mornings) through a single entry/exit and enforcement.

As I mentioned on another post, in our town, they use portable barriers that are useless. They tell vehicles to not enter. They don't stop them. But they do require that all vehicles be removed at least an hour or two before the event and enforce that with towing.

[Liberal In Texas]

16. I pretty much agree with that. NOLA has bollards that are supposed to be raised during nights like

NYE. But apparently weren't, due to some construction or something. Sounds like somebody fell down on the job.

Bollards should stop vehicles. But if you really want to make sure, you block the streets with garbage or sand trucks.

[yagotme]

17. Many states require a license of some type for a gun.

Some for ownership, some for carry. Cars aren't "required" to be licensed in some states, only if they are driven on roads. Here in IL, you can buy a vehicle, drive it on your own property, and never get a plate for it. Same for insurance. If it doesn't leave your property, it isn't required to be insured. Guns are required to be manufactured/imported with at least one safety device. There are tons of gun regulations, also. Vehicles aren't mentioned in the BOR, arms are.

[sarisataka]

8. Eyewitness says metal barricades were not raised to prevent vehicle access

Eyewitness says metal barricades were not raised to prevent vehicle access

A local eyewitness who was on Bourbon Street for New Year’s Eve said the city’s steel mechanical barricades were not up and in position prior to the vehicle attack.

“Those barricades were not up, period,” Jimmy Cothran, a New Orleans resident of 15 years, told CNN. “They had the flimsy orange ones that you could just push over with your finger. We actually thought it was kind of odd.”

The steel barricades were installed in 2017, in the wake of the 2016 truck ramming attack in Nice, France, and various drunk driving crashes on Bourbon Street over the years. The barricades can be set in a flat or raised position to allow or prevent vehicles from the area.

One of the barricades is positioned at the intersection of Canal Street, a car-centric four-lane thoroughfare, and Bourbon Street, the walkable street for pedestrian partiers. There are also multiple bollards every couple of blocks along Bourbon Street.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/new-orleans-mass-casualty-bourbon-street-01-01-24-hnk#cm5dxki9a00053b6m42mw0emf

Safety features only work if used

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

15. The last few times I have been in New Orleans

They weren't using them any of those times either. They had a mix of the ones that rise out of the ground and the removable ones that are bolted into place. Neither were used any of the times I was there, they simply were using the metal concert fencing and wood police or construction barricades.

[Rebl2]

12. At least

they could put large concrete barriers on sidewalks and large dump trucks with sand and trash trucks blocking roads. Why they didn’t do that who knows. Knowing what sometimes happens when large crowds assemble in the streets these days, wouldn’t you think that would cross their minds? Saying it’s never happened here before isn’t a good excuse these days.