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GusBob

(7,725 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 03:21 PM Jan 25

The Border Patrol is on a Montana Rez today

I lived and worked there for 7 years. I do not recall ever seeing them on the Rez, although they have HQ. close by as it’s close to the border, would see them routinely when hunting the area.
The Tribal Chairman, who was a friend and patient of mine and a great guy, is counseling the Tribal members to remain calm and carry Tribal ID, etc while they adjust to the “new normal” his words. His words also: ‘ we will work with them to get the illegals off our homeland”
This is due to the problems they have with meth and fenty I reckon.
I think Federal agents are allowed there, when 3 of my patients were gunned down by Mexicans, the place was crawling with FBI agents who caught the shooters ( they were teenaged Mexicans)
The Tribal police have hell of a time dealing with the meth slingers

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The Border Patrol is on a Montana Rez today (Original Post) GusBob Jan 25 OP
Those sound like the kind of people that deserve a prison sentence. Bluethroughu Jan 25 #1
I could tell a million stories GusBob Jan 25 #2
This is a societal problem no doubt. Bluethroughu Jan 25 #11
So this is a good thing, right? superpatriotman Jan 25 #3
Well the "new normal " thing is an issue I reckon GusBob Jan 25 #6
Maybe just switching the pushers? IbogaProject Jan 26 #23
Right wing Trumpsters involved in smuggling/dealing fentanyl Norrrm Jan 25 #4
Yep that is true, but in this circumstance GusBob Jan 25 #8
Thanks for letting us know LeftInTX Jan 25 #5
The birthright citizenship issue the fascists are pushing applies to Native Americans... OneGrassRoot Jan 25 #7
Which is hysterical. They were here first! OldBaldy1701E Jan 25 #9
The Native Americans have been fucked over for over 600 years they took their doc03 Jan 25 #10
Yep. OldBaldy1701E Jan 25 #12
It is too bad DENVERPOPS Jan 25 #13
Exactly HipChick Jan 25 #16
Coolidge enacted a law certifying citizenship for all Native Americans in 1924... GiqueCee Jan 25 #21
Truly sad to hear Nigrum Cattus Jan 25 #14
Were the Mexican teenagers in the country illegally? JoseBalow Jan 25 #15
I honestly don't know GusBob Jan 25 #17
Mexican cartels are ruthless, they don't mess around JoseBalow Jan 25 #18
Yep GusBob Jan 25 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author turbinetree Jan 25 #20
I would take his comment to mean they would assist in getting us of their homelands. n/t Ms. Toad Jan 25 #22

GusBob

(7,725 posts)
2. I could tell a million stories
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 03:45 PM
Jan 25

The Tribal chief of police was also a friend of mine. They were overwhelmed
My experience is that every man woman and child there was co dependent on the the Meth problem, even us health care providers
It’s in the families, the villages and workplaces. Whether you are 2 or 92 years old
It’s not just a Native thing but rural US problem
I work for a new tribe now and it’s a thing but this Tribe works with state and local police for better law enforcement
Plenty of non natives around here are into the poison
Shoot even my own brother is a hop head

Bluethroughu

(6,826 posts)
11. This is a societal problem no doubt.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 05:09 PM
Jan 25

I didn't know it was this bad everywhere.
It really makes me sad, that this is where we are as a country. We can not cope with the unlimited wars, combative politics not working for the people, that spend most of their lives working and still can't afford much more than paying the bills to live.

It is hopelessness disease. People are checking out.

superpatriotman

(6,625 posts)
3. So this is a good thing, right?
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 03:48 PM
Jan 25

Because it sounds like getting rid of violent drug pushers is a good thing.
Not being snarky or the like.

GusBob

(7,725 posts)
6. Well the "new normal " thing is an issue I reckon
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 04:09 PM
Jan 25

The Natives are like the rest of us
For us health care folks specifically the anti-science stuff and attacking NIH grants is a huge concern
And that hop head Kennedy is boss of IHS now
And Trump has animosity towards Natives

The clinics run on grant money for all kinds of health issues especially diabetes which is endemic in Natives

IbogaProject

(4,048 posts)
23. Maybe just switching the pushers?
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 01:43 PM
Jan 26

The GOP has long been associated with flooding drugs into poor communities, that will likely continue.

Norrrm

(338 posts)
4. Right wing Trumpsters involved in smuggling/dealing fentanyl
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 04:03 PM
Jan 25

Right wing Trumpsters involved in smuggling/dealing fentanyl.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016348442

White Supremacist network busted with enough fentanyl to kill over a million people.

GusBob

(7,725 posts)
8. Yep that is true, but in this circumstance
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 04:21 PM
Jan 25

Again the Police chief told me that they knew who the dealers were. They could stop them, seize drugs money and guns, but had no authority to detain. They could only give them a warrant for the state and kick them off the Rez
They just kept coming back
And the users knew who they were too which was a bigger problem

OneGrassRoot

(23,592 posts)
7. The birthright citizenship issue the fascists are pushing applies to Native Americans...
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 04:17 PM
Jan 25

They're making moves to get the land away from the tribes.

Everything with them is about raping, pillaging, and, ultimately, enslavement of as many humans as possible.

OldBaldy1701E

(7,130 posts)
9. Which is hysterical. They were here first!
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 04:43 PM
Jan 25

The people who this would apply to are everyone who is not a First Nations people.

So, go for it, you rethugs!

doc03

(37,390 posts)
10. The Native Americans have been fucked over for over 600 years they took their
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 04:53 PM
Jan 25

land and put on what they thought was waiste land. Now they want that land. It is hard to imagine
what is going on.




OldBaldy1701E

(7,130 posts)
12. Yep.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 05:10 PM
Jan 25

I used to get really pissed whenever I saw someone trying to whitewash the truth of how the white man stole this landmass from those who were here first. It reminds me of that bit about flags by Eddie Izzard. "No flag, no country!" As if the fact that the settlers had a piece of fabric to wave around made them more important.

DENVERPOPS

(10,744 posts)
13. It is too bad
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 05:16 PM
Jan 25

The Native Americans didn't have a "BORDER PATROL" hundreds of years ago when the MAGA's relatives were immigrants.....

And what the hell is the "Border Patrol" doing there? Where the hell is the DEA????

GiqueCee

(1,718 posts)
21. Coolidge enacted a law certifying citizenship for all Native Americans in 1924...
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 06:25 PM
Jan 25

... but the Orange Shitstain will ignore that, I'm sure. How can someone so evil hold office here? Well, it's not the land of the free now, if it ever was. It's the land of greedy oligarchs; we just live in it. Until they start herding us like livestock into dormitories that make Alcatraz look like Club Med.
If I remember correctly, the French had a similar problem 236 years ago (Let them eat cake?). They dealt with it using an instrument of notable finality. *I'll bet there are plans for one on Youtube.

*For the terminally obtuse:

GusBob

(7,725 posts)
17. I honestly don't know
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 05:42 PM
Jan 25

They were from Southern California
My coworker was Aunty to 2 of the victims
She told me drugs
I knew one of them was on drugs from my clinic work and yeah he was a rough sorta fella

Their uncle was in jail and owed the dealers money
She said the cartel wanted their money or we go after family
And they did

I don’t know the outcome. They were teenagers like 16 yrs old

This happened 2 days before I left the Rez

JoseBalow

(6,488 posts)
18. Mexican cartels are ruthless, they don't mess around
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 05:51 PM
Jan 25

It's always too risky to do any kind of business with them, best to steer clear no matter the payoff. The cartel members I have known were always friendly and personable, but I wouldn't trust them for one second if money was involved.

GusBob

(7,725 posts)
19. Yep
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 06:00 PM
Jan 25

Goes to one thing about how pervasive the poison is. Affects everyone.

Their own Aunty knew they were on a wrong path, probably a lot more people too. Powerless to intervene

Now I recall the cops called the shooting as
“ a targeted hit”
They got set up on a phony drug deal and guns started a blazing

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