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Tumbulu

(6,502 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:04 AM Jan 29

Any illusions that the annihilation of the Federal Government

was not the original long term plan of this cabal should now be gone.

Garland’s too slow pace, knowing full well (being a member of the Federalist Society itself) what the Supreme Court would do to protect their guy…. Isn’t it obvious they were playing the longer game?

This civil war has begun and their toppling of the Federal Government, creation of wars and aggression ( Greenland, Panama, watch the armed services get deployed) is all just the beginning.

And with the complicit republicans in charge, I see no stopping any of this.

The Democrats in the minority and the courts cannot stop it. We see the Republicans utterly unwilling to stand up against these bizarro cabinet positions. Three defections are not enough.

It has been their plan for decades. But now that they have the tech bros in on it- I cannot see the nation surviving.




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Any illusions that the annihilation of the Federal Government (Original Post) Tumbulu Jan 29 OP
I basically see it as a phased-in deconstruction of American Democracy no_hypocrisy Jan 29 #1
Don't forget all the radio stations they bought to broadcast those think tank messages. CrispyQ Jan 29 #28
Hell. We even see Democrats unwilling to stand up against these bizarre cabinet positions. Scrivener7 Jan 29 #2
And, I agree Bread and Circuses Jan 29 #3
It is worth noting that Curtis Yarvin, whose playbook they are all following, has the following end game as a goal: LiberalLoner Jan 29 #9
Bloodless revolution 😡 Blue Full Moon Jan 29 #13
I am sure it has occurred , maybe India?, but Dan Jan 29 #30
Trump said it. Blue Full Moon Jan 29 #32
Not Trump....one of the Project 2025 authors, can't remember who... LiberalLoner Jan 29 #33
I take you at your word regarding what you're saying. Frank D. Lincoln Jan 29 #21
Link LiberalLoner Jan 29 #23
Thank you, LiberalLoner. Frank D. Lincoln Jan 29 #29
There's no way they can kill Tickle Jan 29 #22
Pandemics, wars, food and water born illnesses unchecked, very simple. Tumbulu Jan 29 #25
I have known about this plan for decades now. Tumbulu Jan 29 #24
You first into the biofuel vat, Curtis. dchill Jan 29 #27
The Globetrotters needed the Generals to make it look like a real game. nt RandiFan1290 Jan 29 #4
We are in danger Richluu Jan 29 #5
All thats needed now is some sort of catastrophe johnnyfins Jan 29 #6
do tell harumph Jan 29 #7
The FBI is performing a Nuclear event training excercise whopis01 Jan 29 #10
PNAC meets Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine". rubbersole Jan 29 #19
Republicans have been trying to deconstruct every aspect of Roosevelt's New Deal for decades. Lonestarblue Jan 29 #8
They are not going to win--EVER. valleyrogue Jan 29 #17
How do you think they would react if states seceded? Wicked Blue Jan 29 #11
If the vote in California is to secede, then she will be only the first. Dan Jan 29 #34
The consequences will be catastrophic. Of that, I am certain. Borogove Jan 29 #12
One way we can fight them Linda ladeewolf Jan 29 #14
The only positive nowforever Jan 29 #15
That isn't going to happen. valleyrogue Jan 29 #16
At some point we may envy the people who got deported Wicked Blue Jan 29 #18
Oh, here we go again. Oopsie Daisy Jan 29 #20
Kick dalton99a Jan 29 #26
I see it as the oligarchy vs the Democrats. GoodRaisin Jan 29 #31
Yes, but the hate rhetoric on the right Tumbulu Jan 29 #35
That group won't switch until they feel betrayed by Dick Tater GoodRaisin Jan 29 #36

no_hypocrisy

(50,278 posts)
1. I basically see it as a phased-in deconstruction of American Democracy
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:08 AM
Jan 29

by way of . . . democracy.

The Republican "Think Tanks" have studied the Constitution and figured out a way to "game the System". Whatever can be built, can be deconstructed.

No military coupe. Just the "right" people in the "right" positions to make laws.

And like the origins of the Third Reich, it's so gradual that the populace doesn't realize what exactly is happening, and once it's happened, it's institutionalized and nearly impossible to reverse.

CrispyQ

(39,076 posts)
28. Don't forget all the radio stations they bought to broadcast those think tank messages.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:53 PM
Jan 29

Didn't Limbaugh gain popularity back in the late 80s? Maybe it was early 90s, but we didn't even have a marketing department, while they were blanketing rural America with messages that dems were elitist, tree-hugging radical leftists & were the problem with the country.

Bread and Circuses

(507 posts)
3. And, I agree
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:22 AM
Jan 29

Friend,

My assessment is that the Republic will be lost in 6 months , as I’ve been saying for quite some time.

The Felon34 would move fast.

Now with the complete capitulation by Big Tech, Corporations and Media, he’s unopposed

Writing the E.O.s and new policy is the Project 2025 staff at Heritage.
And, Musk has tapped into the servers at OPM, perhaps OMB.

The attack on the federal government is at warp speed.

No one is coming.
Dem Senators have voted for Rubio and are barely visible.

There is minuscule coordination by Dems leadership to counter the unlawful activities .

Dem leaders have not communicated what we, the citizens can do right NOW.

I can’t write anymore because I am in mourning.

All my relatives who fought in WW2 saved the world.

Now, my country voted for a conman, mobster, rapist and seditious conspirator as The President.

The Founders would shoot us dead for treason and it would be well-deserved.





LiberalLoner

(10,645 posts)
9. It is worth noting that Curtis Yarvin, whose playbook they are all following, has the following end game as a goal:
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:56 AM
Jan 29

Billionaires, living in a few cities with their slaves, and the rest of us turned into “biofuel.”

I wish I were making that up or exaggerating, but I am not.

The plan is to kill hundreds of millions of us in the US, and they feel confident they can achieve this goal within four years without any real pushback or resistance.

Plan accordingly.

I do not know if any other country is safe from this war against humanity…billionaires against the rest of us.

Dan

(4,347 posts)
30. I am sure it has occurred , maybe India?, but
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:25 PM
Jan 29

I’m searching my memory for some reference to a bloodless revolution? Care to share?

Frank D. Lincoln

(894 posts)
21. I take you at your word regarding what you're saying.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:13 AM
Jan 29

However, for those who might be skeptical and demand a source for that information, can you cite one or more credible sources to back that information up?

I haven't done a deep dive yet on Curtis Yarvin, but I know he's extremely bad news and one of the most dangerous figures in terms of his malevolent vision for America and his strong influence on Peter Thiel, JD Vance, and many others on the far right.

LiberalLoner

(10,645 posts)
23. Link
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:40 AM
Jan 29

In 2008, a software developer in San Francisco named Curtis Yarvin, writing under a pseudonym, proposed a horrific solution for people he deemed “not productive”: “convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.”

https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas

I only have one source at the moment, I apologize.


Frank D. Lincoln

(894 posts)
29. Thank you, LiberalLoner.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 01:14 PM
Jan 29

What a sick, sick psychopath Curtis Yarvin is.

On that Hare scale that measures psychopathology and that maxes out at 40, Yarvin is probably a 506.

Trump is a 33 on that point scale.

Most normal people are around 4.

[https://markinreport.com/2024/08/03/trump-is-a-psychopath/|

Tickle

(3,549 posts)
22. There's no way they can kill
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 10:17 AM
Jan 29

millions of Americans in the next few years. I would like to think we would catch on after a few thousand people died and stop whatever it is they are doing. How would they kill us?

Tumbulu

(6,502 posts)
25. Pandemics, wars, food and water born illnesses unchecked, very simple.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:26 PM
Jan 29

The bad handling of the Covid Pandemic was a good training course for them.

Shutting all communication from the CDC and the scientific communities? Shutting down research? Even short breaks destroys descales of work.

This is all on purpose.

Tumbulu

(6,502 posts)
24. I have known about this plan for decades now.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 12:22 PM
Jan 29

And with the current political alliance, with the hate filled right wing, they are on their way.

They want a pandemic to kill off millions. And wars if necessary to do the same.

It is the point and purpose, reduce the human population. As fast as possible. They don’t really care how it happens.

Because they view humans as bad for the planet. I guess because they view others as they know themselves to be. Bad for living things.

They cannot fathom humans who care for life; because as we co evolved with life, we formed reciprocal agreements with these other forms. That many of us take very seriously in the way we tend our farms and animals, and each other.

johnnyfins

(1,720 posts)
6. All thats needed now is some sort of catastrophe
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:45 AM
Jan 29

They are planning amd exercising one right now in upstate NY.

Lonestarblue

(12,278 posts)
8. Republicans have been trying to deconstruct every aspect of Roosevelt's New Deal for decades.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 07:52 AM
Jan 29

They are now very close. They have the power and no one to stop them. What they want are weak governments with few or no financial, safety, or environmental regulations to constrain the accumulation of ever more wealth. Whatever happens to everyone else is not their concern. We are going back to the days of the robber barons who controlled government and basically life in the US. These people know that a major depression is likely to follow, but they will have amassed so much wealth that it won’t hurt them. And just as people in the 1920s were encouraged to invest in the stick market to get rich, today they’re being encouraged to invest in crypto to get rich. What happens when crypto tanks?

At this stage, Democrats can only speak out as we have almost no legislative power in Congress. But now s the time for local and state Democrats to prepare to run in 2026 for all offices, using the chaos and the obvious destruction of government programs that help people. By 2026, perhaps more voters will have realized that Trump and his billionaires are just helping themselves and no one else, but Democratic candidates need to point out the destruction.

valleyrogue

(1,693 posts)
17. They are not going to win--EVER.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:56 AM
Jan 29

They AREN'T "very close." It is almost impossible to do it. That is why Trump is issuing these illegal edicts. He is trying, and he will fail, to do an end run around the law.

The "almost no legislative power in Congress" is nonsense also.

These people trying to dismantle the government to give to the psychopaths at the top are idiots first and foremost.

Wicked Blue

(7,616 posts)
11. How do you think they would react if states seceded?
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:14 AM
Jan 29

I'm thinking California at the very least

Dan

(4,347 posts)
34. If the vote in California is to secede, then she will be only the first.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:00 PM
Jan 29

I suspect that a lot of the Blue States want nothing to do with Trump and the Red States.

They can have their hate and their revengeful God.

Anyway, I think the blue states will put the secede option on the ballot and that with revenue sharing - let the red states starve. But before all that can happen, Trump will declare war.

And that is how America ended….thank you MAGA, you got what you asked for the hate, and you owned the Liberals, POC, Women, non-Christian’s, etc.

Linda ladeewolf

(686 posts)
14. One way we can fight them
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:34 AM
Jan 29

Is with our wallets. Greed and avarice are diseases, like drugs. If we prepare for a self imposed austerity, buying only those things we need, we will deprive them of their fix. We need to prepare for a pandemic, as well as food shortages. Say, we buy up a good supply of food, medical supplies and other things we think we’ll need and then just stop buying anything but the barest of necessities for several months, I think it will do more than we think. Stocks will plummet.

The fact that these people all have been influenced by one rather sick mind just goes to show they all have sick minds. They are all living in an unreality they built for themselves. They need a heavy dose of real.

nowforever

(439 posts)
15. The only positive
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:42 AM
Jan 29

Trump is an imbecile and his personality disorder causes him to self sabotage.

valleyrogue

(1,693 posts)
16. That isn't going to happen.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 09:53 AM
Jan 29

You honestly think the American people are going to sit back and allow it?

The results of Trump's antics, I am sure I am right but I cannot say it in a public forum.

I am sick of these defeatist threads.

GoodRaisin

(9,895 posts)
31. I see it as the oligarchy vs the Democrats.
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 02:07 PM
Jan 29

The oligarchs have bought the Republican party. We just watched an oligarch buy the election.

Tumbulu

(6,502 posts)
35. Yes, but the hate rhetoric on the right
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:24 PM
Jan 29

that has been poisoning the minds of the majority of the voters is set on destroying all government “control”. I am not so sure that this group will switch to voting D.

I seriously hope that I am wrong about this.

GoodRaisin

(9,895 posts)
36. That group won't switch until they feel betrayed by Dick Tater
Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:35 PM
Jan 29

like losing something that impacts their pockets directly. In the meantime oligarchs conveniently use them to control what oligarchs want - free reign for their corporate interests to thrive.

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