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Demovictory9

(34,975 posts)
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 05:02 PM Thursday

75% of US scientists who answered Nature poll consider leaving

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y

75% of US scientists who answered Nature poll consider leaving
More than 1,600 readers answered our poll; many said they were looking for jobs in Europe and Canada.


The massive changes in US research brought about by the new administration of President Donald Trump are causing many scientists in the country to rethink their lives and careers. More than 1,200 scientists who responded to a Nature poll — three-quarters of the total respondents — are considering leaving the United States following the disruptions prompted by Trump. Europe and Canada were among the top choices for relocation.


The trend was particularly pronounced among early-career researchers. Of the 690 postgraduate researchers who responded, 548 were considering leaving; 255 of 340 PhD students said the same.

Trump’s administration has slashed research funding and halted broad swathes of federally funded science, under a government-wide cost-cutting initiative led by billionaire Elon Musk. Tens of thousands of federal employees, including many scientists, have been fired and rehired following a court order, with threats of more mass firings to come. Immigration crackdowns and battles over academic freedom have left researchers reeling as uncertainty and disruption permeate all aspects of the US research enterprise.

Many respondents were looking to move to countries where they already had collaborators, friends, family or familiarity with the language. “Anywhere that supports science,” wrote one respondent. Some who had moved to the United States for work planned to return to their country of origin.


But many more scientists had not planned on relocating, until Trump began gutting funding and firing researchers. “This is my home — I really love my country,” says a graduate student at a top US university who works in plant genomics and agriculture. “But a lot of my mentors have been telling me to get out, right now.”
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75% of US scientists who answered Nature poll consider leaving (Original Post) Demovictory9 Thursday OP
"No voice/free exit" GusBob Thursday #1
dump isn't as smart as he thinks CountAllVotes Thursday #2
I moved on to a Rez during Trump I GusBob Thursday #7
I am strongly encouraging My Son The Astronomer to PoindexterOglethorpe Thursday #3
Humanity needs science to go forward. If this country is going to crush science & scientists... Hekate Thursday #4
They are more than welcome here in the EU. Celerity Thursday #5
Fascism scholars leave Yale for Canada moondust Thursday #6

CountAllVotes

(21,586 posts)
2. dump isn't as smart as he thinks
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 05:23 PM
Thursday

Trying to break up treaty laws with American Indians is just one example of how very stupid he is.

Maybe he needs to read about Andrew Jackson and the Cherokee v. Georgia cases to see how this disgrace has affected Jackson's "stellar" reputation.

>>What was the main reason for the conflict between the Cherokee and the United States?
The Indian Removal Act, legislation signed into law by Andrew Jackson, forcefully displaced thousands of Native Americans and divided the Cherokee Nation. Principal Chief John Ross refused to surrender Cherokee land and relocate to the “Indian Territory” of the West.

but,

President Jackson
The Indian Removal Act was supported by President Jackson and the Democratic Party, southern and white settlers, and several state governments, especially that of Georgia.

They were just as corrupt and greedy then as they are now.

The white man never has enough. NEVER!

*******

Thousands of Indian people and Freedmen died during this disgraceful chapter of history. No one seems to know nor talk about it much.

That said, my Cherokee grandmother remembered the stories as her family was on the Trail of Tears. She attempted to pass this history down but was ignored as her grandchildren were ashamed of her as she not "white" enough. Her father appears in the old census records and stated he was INDIAN. He died in 1936 in Batesville, Arkansas which is a place that the Trail of Tears ran through.

That said, my own mother who was adopted into the tribe was not. She was proud of this link and loved the woman that adopted and raised her.

********

Is dump's goal to have a Nation filled with people stupid and uneducated idiots?

When all they can say is "fake news" and "waste and fraud" that seems to be the case.

The stupider the better is his narcissistic red hat of hate world.

& recommend.

GusBob

(7,787 posts)
7. I moved on to a Rez during Trump I
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:38 PM
Thursday

Out west. There was talk of some local vigilante proud boy types gonna come in making trouble.

I had to laugh Everyone on that Rez could shoot a snakes eye out from a mile kids and women even elders

Plus they knew the back trails when there were only 3 mapped ways on and off. It would have been interesting

My Native friends now say Trump is after their casinos and I believe it

Hekate

(96,939 posts)
4. Humanity needs science to go forward. If this country is going to crush science & scientists...
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 05:34 PM
Thursday

…the compact has been shattered. I am appalled that our country, which once led the world in so many ways, is choosing to become poor and stupid. I just want to see scientists and researchers get in the lifeboat.

“This is my home — I really love my country,” says a graduate student at a top US university who works in plant genomics and agriculture. “But a lot of my mentors have been telling me to get out, right now.”

Sal si puedes.

moondust

(20,827 posts)
6. Fascism scholars leave Yale for Canada
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 05:48 PM
Thursday
Outspoken Fascism Scholars Leave Yale for Canada
Jason Stanley, decrying Columbia University’s capitulation to the federal government, is leaving for the University of Toronto. So is Marci Shore, who said she fears “civil war.” Timothy Snyder says his motivations were largely personal.
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