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allegorical oracle

(4,432 posts)
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:09 PM Thursday

Now TSF is after the Smithsonian museums -- new Exec. Order

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump revealed his intentions to reshape the Smithsonian Institution with an executive order Thursday that targets funding to programs with “divisive narratives” and “improper ideology.”

Trump said there has been a “concerted and widespread” effort over the past decade to rewrite American history by replacing “objective facts” with a “distorted narrative driven by ideology rather than truth.”

He signed an executive order putting Vice President JD Vance in charge of an effort to “remove improper ideology” from the Smithsonian Institution, including its museums, education and research centers and the National Zoo.

Trump’s order specifically names the National Museum of African American History and Culture and the Women’s History Museum, which is in development.

“Museums in our Nation’s capital should be places where individuals go to learn — not to be subjected to ideological indoctrination or divisive narratives that distort our shared history,” the order said.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-smithsonian-executive-order-improper-ideology-558ebfab722f603e94e02a1a4b06ed4d

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Now TSF is after the Smithsonian museums -- new Exec. Order (Original Post) allegorical oracle Thursday OP
I have never despised any human being more than I do this POS. sinkingfeeling Thursday #1
a wholeheated ditto choie Thursday #5
Right there with you on that. LoisB Thursday #7
Next on the agenda: Re-education camps for "improper ideology" pat_k Thursday #2
Opposite Day for sure chicoescuela Thursday #3
Check the dumpsters for Amelia Earhart's plane that she flew across the Atlantic. TheBlackAdder Thursday #43
So no mention of slavery allowed at the NMAAHC newdeal2 Thursday #4
The 1619 project probably. choie Thursday #6
Do they have an exhibit about it? newdeal2 Thursday #13
Here's a link choie Thursday #22
They'll probably just close it Diraven Thursday #31
US Constitution: odins folly Thursday #8
I hate him and all his evil deeds with the heat of a thousand suns! Diamond_Dog Thursday #9
Appears that this infantile, tasteless, adulterous, lying, slovenly, semi-literate, tax allegorical oracle Thursday #10
That's exactly what he's doing..his reality or nothing. Full blown authoritarian. Deuxcents Thursday #28
1984 Dem4life1970 Thursday #11
The written screed wants to assert that "race is a biological reality" muriel_volestrangler Thursday #12
Does have a Miller odor about it. And what was Hillbilly Elegy about, again? nt allegorical oracle Thursday #17
I wondered when he would do this SheltieLover Thursday #14
Was concerned, too. Incorrectly figured he was more interested in dancing with Musk, so allegorical oracle Thursday #18
I doubt he has ever been in one. SheltieLover Thursday #20
The order singles out the National Museum of African American History and Culture as problematic, claiming that it infor Demovictory9 Thursday #15
The goal is to destroy American culture and history, like Putin is doing in Ukraine. Irish_Dem Thursday #16
Also could be that he regards museums as he does universities and colleges -- bastions allegorical oracle Thursday #21
Yes fascists always destroy the educated, the intellectuals. Irish_Dem Thursday #24
They're just trying to erase history. GenThePerservering Thursday #19
HANDS OFF The Smithsonian, You EFFER! 😬 electric_blue68 Thursday #23
He's going to try to give the Charlottesville Nazis, the "very fine people" Maru Kitteh Thursday #25
I don't think he can Horse with no Name Thursday #26
Added Horse with no Name Thursday #29
I hope they can use the courts to tell him to go to hell. kysrsoze Thursday #32
TY for that info! Cha Thursday #37
I just looked this up..there are 21 museums, educational and research centers at the Smithsonian. Deuxcents Thursday #33
Everything he touches turns to shit orangecrush Thursday #27
Fuck. I hate him so much. He ruins EVERYTHING. kysrsoze Thursday #30
This pattern of exterminating democracy is following the Hitler plan of 1939. rich7862 Thursday #34
"Improper ideology." WTF? 3catwoman3 Thursday #35
Yes We Have.. and Russia, . Mump is trying to Destroy America Cha Thursday #39
Under Putin's Orders.. Destroy Ameica & her History. Cha Thursday #36
Ugh no surprise there Meowmee Thursday #38
Already a topic on this, but it could certainly use more attention. Karasu Thursday #40
This 'man' is a shit stain on humanity. spanone Thursday #41
the irony of this sentence is absolutely incalculable Takket Thursday #42

newdeal2

(2,119 posts)
13. Do they have an exhibit about it?
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:28 PM
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It’s been a few years since I visited but I don’t remember seeing it.

odins folly

(337 posts)
8. US Constitution:
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:20 PM
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First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


But I guess since it’s an executive order the 1st amendment doesn’t apply…….

Fuck these people….

allegorical oracle

(4,432 posts)
10. Appears that this infantile, tasteless, adulterous, lying, slovenly, semi-literate, tax
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:22 PM
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evading POS is attempting to remake every element of our fabulous country into the world that HE wants -- to hell with the rest of us. I was a docent at one of those museums. Every person affiliated with those educational marvels strives for accuracy.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,343 posts)
12. The written screed wants to assert that "race is a biological reality"
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:26 PM
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Once widely respected as a symbol of American excellence and a global icon of cultural achievement, the Smithsonian Institution has, in recent years, come under the influence of a divisive, race-centered ideology. This shift has promoted narratives that portray American and Western values as inherently harmful and oppressive. For example, the Smithsonian American Art Museum today features “The Shape of Power: Stories of Race and American Sculpture,” an exhibit representing that “[s]ocieties including the United States have used race to establish and maintain systems of power, privilege, and disenfranchisement.” The exhibit further claims that “sculpture has been a powerful tool in promoting scientific racism” and promotes the view that race is not a biological reality but a social construct, stating “Race is a human invention.”

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/restoring-truth-and-sanity-to-american-history/

I wonder if this was written by Stephen Miller, or did they have to outsource it to an even-more-racist turd like Nick Fuentes?

allegorical oracle

(4,432 posts)
18. Was concerned, too. Incorrectly figured he was more interested in dancing with Musk, so
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:39 PM
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would leave museums alone -- also doubted he had ever been in one.

Demovictory9

(34,974 posts)
15. The order singles out the National Museum of African American History and Culture as problematic, claiming that it infor
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:31 PM
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The order singles out the National Museum of African American History and Culture as problematic, claiming that it informs visitors that “hard work,” “individualism” and “the nuclear family” are aspects of “White culture.”
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The order also asserts the American Women’s History Museum plans to celebrate male athletes participating in women’s sports.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-signs-order-aiming-eliminate-anti-american-ideology-smithsonian-2025-03-27/

allegorical oracle

(4,432 posts)
21. Also could be that he regards museums as he does universities and colleges -- bastions
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 09:01 PM
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of "elitist" intellectualism. Must bring them down to his 80-word vocabulary level.

Irish_Dem

(66,927 posts)
24. Yes fascists always destroy the educated, the intellectuals.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 10:06 PM
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They pose a huge threat to their regimes.

GenThePerservering

(2,725 posts)
19. They're just trying to erase history.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 08:42 PM
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Everything else they say is bullshit. Whiny mediocre white males want to be on top again.

electric_blue68

(20,527 posts)
23. HANDS OFF The Smithsonian, You EFFER! 😬
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 09:46 PM
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Nothing is perfect, but I love The Smithstonian museums etc.


Money issues have prevented me from visiting DC again so far, but The Museum of African-American History is on my list to visit. Last time I was in DC was for President Obama's second Innauguation.

Maru Kitteh

(29,867 posts)
25. He's going to try to give the Charlottesville Nazis, the "very fine people"
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 10:06 PM
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their wish list. Not their real wish list i.e.the 1850’s, but he did blather on about the statues and “erasing history.”


Horse with no Name

(34,153 posts)
29. Added
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 10:11 PM
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The Smithsonian Institution is considered unique in the Federal establishment. The Smithsonian is not an executive branch agency and does not exercise regulatory powers, except over its own buildings and grounds. Thus, courts have held that the Smithsonian is not an agency or authority of the Government as those terms are used in certain laws applicable to executive branch agencies such as the Privacy Act, the Administrative Procedure Act, the Freedom of Information Act, and the Federal Advisory Committee Act. However, the U.S. Attorney General has concluded that the Smithsonian is so "closely connected" to the federal government that it shares the immunity of the United States from state and local regulation. In accordance with this doctrine, local zoning regulations, ABC licensing provisions, sales and use taxes, and real estate taxes are not applicable to the Smithsonian absent a specific federal statute. (There are several instances in which Congress has required federal entities to comply with state and local laws, so questions about the applicability of specific state and local laws to the Smithsonian should be directed to the Office of General Counsel.)

Deuxcents

(21,548 posts)
33. I just looked this up..there are 21 museums, educational and research centers at the Smithsonian.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 10:23 PM
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Will he try to get at all of them? Is this just the beginning? I reading about their budget and trust funds and endowments..congressional budgets and federal grants, etc. does TSF even have a clue how complex this Institution is or what a national treasure it is?

rich7862

(367 posts)
34. This pattern of exterminating democracy is following the Hitler plan of 1939.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 10:23 PM
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Hitler looted all the museum treasures and then went after the oligarchy treasures, even the gold in their teeth. By this time, the oligarchy was no longer useful to Hitler. Silently and deadly they just started disappearing. Then Hitler/trump hid any thing that was of any value.

Cha

(309,089 posts)
39. Yes We Have.. and Russia, . Mump is trying to Destroy America
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 10:40 PM
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as was Orders by his Puppeteer.

Cha

(309,089 posts)
36. Under Putin's Orders.. Destroy Ameica & her History.
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 10:35 PM
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Stop the Flaming Fascist POS Asshole.

Takket

(22,927 posts)
42. the irony of this sentence is absolutely incalculable
Thu Mar 27, 2025, 11:03 PM
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“Museums in our Nation’s capital should be places where individuals go to learn — not to be subjected to ideological indoctrination or divisive narratives that distort our shared history,” the order said.
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