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WhiskeyGrinder

(24,555 posts)
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 11:00 AM Friday

MSG's surveillance system banned this fan over his T-shirt design / And he didn't even wear it to the venue

https://www.theverge.com/news/637228/madison-square-garden-james-dolan-facial-recognition-fan-ban

A concert on Monday night at New York’s Radio City Music Hall was a special occasion for Frank Miller: his parents’ wedding anniversary. He didn’t end up seeing the show — and before he could even get past security, he was informed that he was in fact banned for life from the venue and all other properties owned by Madison Square Garden (MSG).

After scanning his ticket and promptly being pulled aside by security, Miller was told by staff that he was barred from the MSG properties for an incident at the Garden in 2021. But Miller says he hasn’t been to the venue in nearly a decade.

“They hand me a piece of paper letting me know that I’ve been added to a ban list,” Miller says. “There’s a trespass notice if I ever show up on any MSG property ever again,” which includes venues like Radio City, the Beacon Theatre, the Sphere, and the Chicago Theatre.

He was baffled at first. Then it dawned on him: this was probably about a T-shirt he designed years ago. MSG Entertainment won’t say what happened with Miller or how he was picked out of the crowd, but he suspects he was identified via controversial facial recognition systems that the company deploys at its venues.
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MSG's surveillance system banned this fan over his T-shirt design / And he didn't even wear it to the venue (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Friday OP
Sounds like what our little dictator in the WH wants to do newdeal2 Friday #1
Time to sue the shit out of them. mwmisses4289 Friday #2
K&R Solly Mack Friday #3
Oligarchy and dystopia. Fun. AmericaUnderSiege Friday #4
What was the t-shirt design? Mossfern Friday #5
Try this Old Crank Friday #7
It's in the link. GiqueCee Friday #8
From the article: Grown2Hate Friday #9
What petty assholes... GiqueCee Friday #6
Important to note -- relevant to protests!!! TommyT139 Friday #10

newdeal2

(2,120 posts)
1. Sounds like what our little dictator in the WH wants to do
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 11:07 AM
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Keeping close watch on patrons is nothing new for MSG. In 2022, a New Jersey attorney was denied entry to Radio City Music Hall during a Girl Scout troop trip. Her infraction was being on an “attorney exclusion list” full of people who work at firms that are suing MSG. The attorney was identified using facial recognition technology at the venue


Cancel culture for me, not thee.

Grown2Hate

(2,172 posts)
9. From the article:
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 04:02 PM
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"In 2017, 1990s New York Knicks star Charles Oakley was forcibly removed from his seat near Knicks owner and Madison Square Garden CEO James Dolan. The high-profile incident later spiraled into an ongoing legal battle. For Miller, Oakley was an “integral” part of the ’90s Knicks, he says. With his background in graphic design, he made a shirt in the style of the old team logo that read, “Ban Dolan” — a reference to the infamous scuffle."

Hope that helps!

GiqueCee

(2,042 posts)
6. What petty assholes...
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 01:15 PM
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... it's time to boycott anything owned by MSG. It's also time for performers to refuse to play at any MSG venue. Hit the motherfuckers where it hurts – in the wallet. They wanna play hardball? Fine. Doxx every weasel that works for them, and flood the corner offices with lawsuits.

TommyT139

(1,101 posts)
10. Important to note -- relevant to protests!!!
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 04:54 PM
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He hadn't been to Madison Sq Garden in over a decade...yet MSG had put him on their no-entry list in advance...because he merely was linked to someone who had been banned.

So the company investigated the banned t-shirt guy's social media, and determined from that alone that Miller should be excluded.

These technologies are also used by police during protests. ...along with things like Stingray tech to scoop up phone info, showing who is in the area, with social media data mining linked to that. You can expect more use of these tactics -- often without the public's knowledge -- as the Trumpists crack down on free speech and peaceful protests.

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