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Kurska

(5,739 posts)
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 06:02 AM Aug 2014

Is Hillary currently your first choice for US President in 2016?

Simple question.


78 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Already got my Hillary 2016 bumper sticker ready!
4 (5%)
No, but I'd still be excited for her.
4 (5%)
No, but I'd vote for her grudgingly.
11 (14%)
Nope, and would never vote for her.
7 (9%)
Just plain No
51 (65%)
i like 2 vote
1 (1%)
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Is Hillary currently your first choice for US President in 2016? (Original Post) Kurska Aug 2014 OP
Too soon JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #1
Is this poll flame-bait or a purity test? n/t leeroysphitz Aug 2014 #2
yes. plus a list of recs, just to be thorough. djean111 Aug 2014 #4
... Kurska Aug 2014 #5
It's not that I am adverse to either one. I was just curious. n/t leeroysphitz Aug 2014 #6
I'm just curious how supportive of Hillary DU is. Kurska Aug 2014 #7
Me neither. bravenak Aug 2014 #11
Be realistic. Kurska Aug 2014 #12
THREE?? bravenak Aug 2014 #15
How bout 3 threads with 3000 replies. Kurska Aug 2014 #16
I'm down with that. bravenak Aug 2014 #19
In the big picture I don't think it matters what DU believes. MADem Aug 2014 #17
True that AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #81
Al Gore lost me at Lieberman. Voice for Peace Aug 2014 #85
I've never been crazy about her, or Bill. However it did seem she was the inevitable candidate Voice for Peace Aug 2014 #84
Smells like both to me. nt MADem Aug 2014 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author wyldwolf Aug 2014 #35
Purity bait? AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #82
Why would you think that? If someone is being pushed on the people for an important sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #83
k&r for Elizabeth Warren. n/t Laelth Aug 2014 #3
k&r for your k&r. Go Elizabeth Warren. marble falls Aug 2014 #61
Hear, hear! n/t Laelth Aug 2014 #87
More like absolute last and even then reluctantly. hobbit709 Aug 2014 #8
Hee hee hee!! bravenak Aug 2014 #9
Who is? If I may ask. EOM Kurska Aug 2014 #10
1SBM. bravenak Aug 2014 #13
Why not all of DU? Kurska Aug 2014 #20
No, but it sounds fun. bravenak Aug 2014 #21
Writing the state of the union is all fun and game, until you accidentally declare war on plankton. Kurska Aug 2014 #22
Which Manny? bravenak Aug 2014 #23
Sounds good Kurska Aug 2014 #25
Oh, me too. bravenak Aug 2014 #30
Pft, ATF all the way. Kurska Aug 2014 #34
Is the ATF the one who steal all the weed from people? bravenak Aug 2014 #37
New policy at Kurska ATF Kurska Aug 2014 #41
Have I told you that I love you, yet? bravenak Aug 2014 #46
Trust me the feeling is mutual. Kurska Aug 2014 #48
You have been on a roll!! bravenak Aug 2014 #51
I'm flattered. Kurska Aug 2014 #78
You got that job! JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #38
I'M WITH YOU!!! bravenak Aug 2014 #45
Yep! JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #47
Ooooh!!! bravenak Aug 2014 #49
She would be awesome in that role! JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #50
As long as I get to handle the DEA. bravenak Aug 2014 #52
But she has to get elected . . . JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #53
We can hire AverageJoe90 to Gerrymander. bravenak Aug 2014 #56
Oh hell to the yeah! JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #58
I'll take Randy. bravenak Aug 2014 #60
Amen to those JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #74
This list is awesome!! bravenak Aug 2014 #75
I accept! Even though I know nothing about it.. it sounds like a lot of fun! Cha Aug 2014 #68
Nobody had experience!! bravenak Aug 2014 #69
+1! JAG! sheshe2 Aug 2014 #94
I love it! JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #97
I am not as good as the two of you are.... sheshe2 Aug 2014 #98
White American Teen Pregnancy Task Force. bravenak Aug 2014 #54
I just found out about that JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #55
! bravenak Aug 2014 #57
I'd like to contribute a word on behalf of our nation, and hopefully it will avoid war. Voice for Peace Aug 2014 #90
Oh, Don't fuck with that guy. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #96
Now that's funny! Cha Aug 2014 #64
I want to be on TV. bravenak Aug 2014 #66
Good luck with that, bravenak! :) Cha Aug 2014 #70
Thanks!! bravenak Aug 2014 #71
Yes, but I do not have a bumper sticker. nt MADem Aug 2014 #14
When I'm elected JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #40
Why is there no "No, but I'll support her, if she's nominated" option? ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #24
I reckoned that would be covered by the grudgingly option. n/t Kurska Aug 2014 #27
My support wouldn't be 'grudging', though. ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #31
I thought that was the 'grudginly vote for her' option rpannier Aug 2014 #28
No. Grudginly vote for her in GE (most likely) rpannier Aug 2014 #26
Yes underpants Aug 2014 #29
du skews lefty and hilary is not dembotoz Aug 2014 #32
It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt wyldwolf Aug 2014 #33
Good thing DU decides all American elections. Kurska Aug 2014 #36
President Kucinich...remember him? Ikonoklast Aug 2014 #39
Yes. A great president ably helped by Vice President Wesley Clark CJCRANE Aug 2014 #43
How could I forget our first elven president. Kurska Aug 2014 #44
Yep, but I'm not wed to her rock Aug 2014 #42
No. Just No. (nt) bigwillq Aug 2014 #59
Of course I'd vote for her in the general AndreaCG Aug 2014 #62
Clintons=Global economy and Bernie=Local economy belltower Aug 2014 #63
Bill Clinton is out of step with humans? AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #80
How about bigtonka Aug 2014 #65
PAUL MOONEY. bravenak Aug 2014 #67
Now you are talking! Mooney for President, I am so onboard. Bluenorthwest Aug 2014 #72
He helped inform my world view. bravenak Aug 2014 #73
No, either Kucinich or Bernie Sanders would be my pick Liberal_from_va34 Aug 2014 #76
Yes she is my first choice. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #77
I marked "just plain no" fadedrose Aug 2014 #79
Celestia / Luna 2016 - Vote Sky Tyrant Scootaloo Aug 2014 #86
Yes Princess Celestia!!nt bravenak Aug 2014 #89
I'd vote for her in a close primary if it was down to her and Cuomo or something to help steer the TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #88
Hey Hillary ...check out your fan clubs... L0oniX Aug 2014 #91
I wouldn't vote for her if her opponent was Jeb Bush. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #92
But...but then she wouldn't be able to appoint corporate SuperFriends that will rubberstamp TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #93
Confusing poll, because "vote for her" can mean in the primary OR general. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #95
She probably wouldn't even be my 20th choice. N/t hughee99 Aug 2014 #99
How can I have a choice when we have no candidates? BainsBane Aug 2014 #100

JustAnotherGen

(33,823 posts)
1. Too soon
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 06:09 AM
Aug 2014

Trying to get Janice Kovach elected in the NJ 7th. Also - very few people knew of Obama as a viable candidate in 2006. Who knows? Maybe Tammy Duckworth would decide to run? I'm not saying that's a possibility - but the field is too wide open to make a decision like that so soon. But given a choice between Duckworth and Clinton? The Duckworth visual and story alone would be compelling.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
7. I'm just curious how supportive of Hillary DU is.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 06:21 AM
Aug 2014

If knife fights break out in the replies though, I'm not going to complain.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
12. Be realistic.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 06:28 AM
Aug 2014

It is gonna take at least 3 more threads before we put this issue to bed.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. In the big picture I don't think it matters what DU believes.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 06:36 AM
Aug 2014

DU doesn't always pick winners, and they're way behind the eight ball when it comes to picking nominees. I can remember some nasty, loud, well-populated and pointless arguments by the Kucinich crew, who were firm in their belief that their candidate had a prayer and who lashed out with vigor at anyone who dared contradict that POV.

I can remember when most people here at DU LIKED Al Gore. Now he can't get a kind word, it would seem.


 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
81. True that
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:20 AM
Aug 2014

But no matter, we can all back whomever best represents our interests, unlike the GOP who march in lockstep behind their stupid of the moment.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
84. I've never been crazy about her, or Bill. However it did seem she was the inevitable candidate
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:44 AM
Aug 2014

so I've been attempting to look at it/her through a positive lens.
I believe she would be awesome for women's rights around the
world. But she lost me at Monsanto. And then her criticism
of Obama's foreign policy really pissed me off. So I am done
with her. Don't kill me.

Response to leeroysphitz (Reply #2)

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
83. Why would you think that? If someone is being pushed on the people for an important
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:37 AM
Aug 2014

position in our government, are we supposed to just be quiet and not express how we, THE PEOPLE, remember THEM? feel about it?

For the record, I will never support any politician who supports our brutal, illegal and mostly bigoted FP.

Nor would I support anyone who is more protective of Corporate Interests than those of the people.


 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
13. 1SBM.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 06:29 AM
Aug 2014

Or JustAnotherGen. I got nothin beyond that. I'm an undecided voter. I hope CNN calls me up to be on a panel.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
20. Why not all of DU?
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 06:38 AM
Aug 2014

That way we can have a presidency more dysfunction than congress.

Ever played that game where you write a letter one person and one word at a time, state of the union.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
21. No, but it sounds fun.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 06:41 AM
Aug 2014

My word would be plankton. That will fix you all.

Ok. I nominate ALL of DU for president. Better us than that silly libertarian.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
22. Writing the state of the union is all fun and game, until you accidentally declare war on plankton.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 06:52 AM
Aug 2014

On second thought, lets just let Manny write it, that'll be a hoot.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
23. Which Manny?
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:10 AM
Aug 2014

Not third Way Manny. No!

I think Trumad could do a great job. They could tag team.
But they have to do it like that show Drunk History.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
25. Sounds good
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:17 AM
Aug 2014

Honestly, as long as BanesBane gets to be the press secretary, I'm happy.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
34. Pft, ATF all the way.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:30 AM
Aug 2014

Always thought that sounded more like a fun Friday night than a government agency.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
37. Is the ATF the one who steal all the weed from people?
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:35 AM
Aug 2014

I'll do that then. For legitimate purposes, of course. I could store it myself for safekeeping. I'm very kind in that way. Always ready to do my part.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
41. New policy at Kurska ATF
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:42 AM
Aug 2014

Weed needs to be disposed of by weekly burning in the parking lot.

It'll be open to the public and of course it only makes sense to sell reasonably priced snacks as well for budgetary purposes.

I expect the nation debt to be wiped out in a month.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
48. Trust me the feeling is mutual.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 08:01 AM
Aug 2014

I love me too .

You're my favorite DUer (besides myself) to be honest, keep being awesome.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
51. You have been on a roll!!
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 08:07 AM
Aug 2014

My list of DUERS i NEED to meet includes you. One day, we'll all get together for a DU conference. You will be required to kick it with me! Bonobo better come too.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
78. I'm flattered.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:12 AM
Aug 2014

Sign me up for DUcon if it ever materializes.

And it ain't a party till Bonobo shows up, that is for sure.

JustAnotherGen

(33,823 posts)
38. You got that job!
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:40 AM
Aug 2014

And I'm going to appoint Manny to head up the NSA.
MrScorpio to head the White American teen pregnancy task force.
msanthrope to head Dept of Education
Number23 gets to be SOS.
Freshwest is Sec of Defense

You all get jobs where either you don't give a shit or you will reform that shit!

And day one - I'm signing an edict stating that the cap on payments to Social Security are being lifted. No more caps on SS payments. That will reform real proper like! And lowering the age to 60. And free prescriptions for all senior citizens. This way we have more folks who are retired who can devote their energy to getting liberal candidates elected.

Whose with me?

JustAnotherGen

(33,823 posts)
47. Yep!
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:58 AM
Aug 2014

I'm making M0rpheus Press Secretary - told him he could give all Press Conferences in gifs!

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
49. Ooooh!!!
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 08:02 AM
Aug 2014

I love that idea. Republicans would cry themselves to sleep at night after he clowned them to death. We need somebody for the Federal reserve.... CHA!!!

JustAnotherGen

(33,823 posts)
50. She would be awesome in that role!
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 08:07 AM
Aug 2014



Oh yeah - and we WILL have an ERA - and redqueen and seabeyond are going to be appointed to that task force.

BainsBane is going to head up ATF - it just makes sense!
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
52. As long as I get to handle the DEA.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 08:10 AM
Aug 2014

I need to test the evidence to ensure quality controls. Or something like that.

Bettyellen needs a job too. Be nice if she could just take over for Boehner.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
56. We can hire AverageJoe90 to Gerrymander.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 08:17 AM
Aug 2014

Solved. TBH, I think he could convince the righties to follow him. IMHO, it would take a special type to get her elected as speaker. He could be her wingman and sooth the ruffled tea party feathers.

JustAnotherGen

(33,823 posts)
58. Oh hell to the yeah!
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 08:20 AM
Aug 2014

YoungdemCA is going to be my Chief of Staff - if not young dem - then either Mineral Man or H20 man.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
60. I'll take Randy.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 08:25 AM
Aug 2014

He knows whats up.

He always makes me smile, even when he's pissed.

And Bluenorthwest can head up the LGBT task force. Help us banish the homophobes to a patch of land nobody wants.

JustAnotherGen

(33,823 posts)
74. Amen to those
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 09:39 AM
Aug 2014

And behind_ the_aegis is going to shake up the faith initiative for us! Can't wait to see what behind does with the National Day of Prayer!

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
69. Nobody had experience!!
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 09:14 AM
Aug 2014

That's why we would do a better job than any republican. We WANT to work. They do anything to prevent work.

sheshe2

(88,150 posts)
94. +1! JAG!
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 05:58 PM
Aug 2014

Here is MOrpheus now at a presser answering reporters....

Chuck Todd here, I have a question~



MOrpheus~


Sit down, Mr Todd!

Chuck~



MOrpheus



Then the ladies in the audience swoon~








sheshe2

(88,150 posts)
98. I am not as good as the two of you are....
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 09:15 PM
Aug 2014

However it makes me laugh my ass off. Good Goddess, we all need that. JAG.

JustAnotherGen

(33,823 posts)
55. I just found out about that
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 08:16 AM
Aug 2014

And Teen Mom the other day. I didn't realize there was such an epidemic.

But what about the children!?!?!

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
90. I'd like to contribute a word on behalf of our nation, and hopefully it will avoid war.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 01:08 PM
Aug 2014

Spongebob. Spongebob Plankton.
Apparently plankton and spongebob go well together.
I never knew this, but then I know little about Spongebob.

According to google images, there are evil spongebob plankton,
and there are baby spongebob plankton, they're cute. You will
also find sad spongebob plankton, angry spongebob plankton,
variegated colorful plankton of every mood.

If all of these plankton can get along with Spongebob it
follows that anything is possible in this great country.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
66. I want to be on TV.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 09:03 AM
Aug 2014

I have a cute Zebra print dress that would look great on TV.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
71. Thanks!!
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 09:17 AM
Aug 2014

Somehow, I think I may be skipped over. I've never voted for one repub. Oh, well. There's more ways to get on TV.

ColesCountyDem

(6,944 posts)
24. Why is there no "No, but I'll support her, if she's nominated" option?
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:14 AM
Aug 2014

I suspect there are a sizable number of DU-ers who feel that way.

ColesCountyDem

(6,944 posts)
31. My support wouldn't be 'grudging', though.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:22 AM
Aug 2014

That's the trouble with adjectives. I've been disappointed a few times, when my candidate didn't get the nomination, but there was nothing 'grudging' about my post-convention support for our party's nominee.

rpannier

(24,598 posts)
26. No. Grudginly vote for her in GE (most likely)
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:17 AM
Aug 2014

The republicans will run someone who is so incredibly vile that she will look like Polly Anna and Sweet Polly Pureheart by comparison

I have a friend who used to work for a (now retired) senator who told me he heard Scalia say (on more than one occasion) that he wouldn't retire unless his replacement mirrored his views.

If a Republican gets elected the dominoes fall: Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy
If a Democrat gets elected: Scalia hangs around, dies in office, Thomas follows (because he does whatever Scalia does)
And likely Brenner and Ginsburg would retire as well

 

dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
32. du skews lefty and hilary is not
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:23 AM
Aug 2014

she reminds me of gerald ford but does not trip as much

wyldwolf

(43,891 posts)
33. It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:30 AM
Aug 2014

and by hurt, I mean real polls shatter people's illusions.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
36. Good thing DU decides all American elections.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:31 AM
Aug 2014

I know I read that in the constitution...somewhere.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
39. President Kucinich...remember him?
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:40 AM
Aug 2014

Neither does anyone else who votes Democratic and never even heard of DU.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
43. Yes. A great president ably helped by Vice President Wesley Clark
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 07:45 AM
Aug 2014

and Secretary of State Lee Mercer!

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
62. Of course I'd vote for her in the general
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 08:39 AM
Aug 2014

But in the primary my first choice is the veep. I think Biden has been an exemplary public servant and deserves a promotion.

 

belltower

(74 posts)
63. Clintons=Global economy and Bernie=Local economy
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 08:50 AM
Aug 2014

it's really that stark a choice. Clintons' Bridge to the 21st century is a bridge to hell on earth (climate change). She and Bill have are totally OUT OF STEP with what humans MUST do now.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
80. Bill Clinton is out of step with humans?
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:18 AM
Aug 2014

Perhaps you should study up on the activities of the Clinton Global Initiative.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
72. Now you are talking! Mooney for President, I am so onboard.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 09:24 AM
Aug 2014

I met Paul once. He'd have my vote.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
73. He helped inform my world view.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 09:34 AM
Aug 2014

The man is scary smart. I'd do some vote fraud for that one. Get him 110% of the votes.

 
76. No, either Kucinich or Bernie Sanders would be my pick
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:08 AM
Aug 2014

Hilary is way too hawkish for my tastes, and her political views in general have shifted to the right over the past few years. At the end of the day, however, I would choose her over ANY Repub.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
79. I marked "just plain no"
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:16 AM
Aug 2014

because I doubt if I'll be alive to vote anything. It's therefore, an honest answer.

I suppose if I were unfortunate enough to have all these physical ailments for another 3 years, I'd have picked "yes, but grudgingly.'

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
88. I'd vote for her in a close primary if it was down to her and Cuomo or something to help steer the
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 12:35 PM
Aug 2014

party from even greater absurdity.

Otherwise, never probably applies.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
92. I wouldn't vote for her if her opponent was Jeb Bush.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 05:24 PM
Aug 2014

Because she is just as bad and the Democrats will get the blame for her actions.

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
93. But...but then she wouldn't be able to appoint corporate SuperFriends that will rubberstamp
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 05:46 PM
Aug 2014

the making a mockery of and outright destruction of our civil liberties and limits on the powerful to Federal Courts!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
95. Confusing poll, because "vote for her" can mean in the primary OR general.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 06:03 PM
Aug 2014

I am not sure I would in the first instance, but I absolutely will in the second should she get the nomination.

BainsBane

(54,895 posts)
100. How can I have a choice when we have no candidates?
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 10:36 PM
Aug 2014

People need to get over this obsession with the Presidency. We have a midterm election. This notion of vesting everything in a single office is absurd and shows no conception of how government works or how power is allocated. Meanwhile, the GOP is working on 2014, The CURRENT ELECTION, that most people here pay no attention to. Midterms are where congress is chosen and state elections are determined, and it is state legislatures that control redistricting, the single most important act in the allocation of power. The obsession on the presidency is a stunning demonstration in how the self-described 'left" renders itself politically irrelevant. And then you wonder why so little happens. This is exactly why the GOP is able to exercise so much power while representing a minority of the electorate.

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