I've Had Enough...

[MineralMan]

More than enough, in some ways, and in many areas. These are some of the things I keep hearing in many places on the Internet. I read more than DU, and the items of which I've had enough are expressed at many of the places I read. Here's a partial list:

I've had enough of equating Democrats with Republicans. They are not the same.
I've had enough of failing to recognize progressive actions when they occur.
I've had more than enough of people calling our Democratic President vile names.
I've had enough of Democrats attacking other Democrats, while ignoring Republicans.
I've had enough of exaggerations and untruths about a broad range of Democratic officeholders.
I've had enough of people who support individual Presidential candidates being accused of ruining everything.
I've had enough of the belief that a majority of congressional districts would gladly elect a truly progressive candidate.
I've had more than enough of seeing GOTV dismissed as useless and a waste of time.
I've had enough of a majority of Democratic voters treated as the enemy.
I've had enough of people who believe that they alone can speak for "the People."
I've had enough of the idea that 99% of the population shares the same goals or has the same needs.
I've had enough of the belief that the answer to everything is to kill corporations or destroy capitalism.
I've had enough of ridicule of people who suggest that reality and practicality matter in politics.
I've had enough of people being treated as "traitors" if they don't share some particular belief about some issue.
I've had enough of the fantasy that any single politician or elected official can effect sweeping changes alone.
I've had enough of fantastic thinking that ignores how things actually function.
I've had more than enough of single issue politics overriding everything else that is happening.
I've had enough with a disappointment with one outcome meaning that everything is lost.
I've had way more than enough of the idea that it doesn't matter if the Republicans control all three branches of government.
I've finally had enough with declarations that anyone would refuse to vote for the Democratic nominee for President.

Maybe you've had enough, too. So, what have you had enough of? You can post it in a reply to this thread.

[Fred Sanders]

1. I call those folks of which you correctly opine as "accidental Republicans".

[taught_me_patience]

2. Could not rec this enough.

I've had enough of people calling the President a used car salesman.
I've had enough of people calling those who support free trade (the majority of americans btw) traitors
I've had enough of democrats claiming "they don't give a shit about the supreme court" when Ginsburg won't last through the next term
I've had enough of "final nail in the coffin" hyperbole
I've had enough of democrats proclaiming "democracy is doomed!!!"


edited to add content.

[calimary]

68. Same here.

Particularly appreciate this from MineralMan's OP:

"I've had way more than enough of the idea that it doesn't matter if the Republicans control all three branches of government.
I've finally had enough with declarations that anyone would refuse to vote for the Democratic nominee for President."

THANK YOU, MineralMan. You speak for me!

We need ALL OF US next year. ALL OF US in the voting booth. ALL OF US remembering that whoever gets into the White House gets to pick the next Supreme Court nominee(s). THAT ALONE is enough to keep me from staying home and pouting on Election Day! Especially with critical issues like Roe v Wade AND voting rights literally on the ropes.

[MineralMan]

74. Absolutely. It's going to be very hard for some to

join the massive GOTV effort we need, after attacking the most likely Democratic candidate for President. Senator Sanders understands that, and has pledged not to engage in negative campaigning. That's one of the reasons I'm supporting him. If he can't manage to get the nomination, he will heartily endorse whoever does, I'm certain.

He understands that it's essential to keep Republicans from controlling the entire federal government. He's a very smart man, with outstanding ideas. I guarantee that he won't be staying home or withholding his vote if he is not the Democratic candidate.

[calimary]

92. Bernie Sanders has already vowed to do this, which I deeply respect and appreciate.

He knows the score.

And I've already vowed that, as a Hillary supporter, if he beats her to the nomination, you sure won't see me sitting home and pouting on Election Day! If he's the nominee, I'm all in with him, then. And happily so.

And I desperately hope that those whose posts I've seen - threatening that they're not willing to do that - I hope they eventually change their minds. We need ALL OF US onboard. TO KEEP THE WHITE HOUSE IN FRIENDLY HANDS.

[randys1]

102. Yeah, NOBODY in the Senate will work HARDER to get Hillary elected than Bernie

if he isnt in it, you would think that would mean something to some folks

Unless their agenda is different from what we are being told, that is.

[DURHAM D]

3. I've had enough of straight people telling me who

is more gay friendly.

[MineralMan]

72. I'm sure that's true.

[DemocraticWing]

93. I have too.

[demwing]

226. hey

pretty cool name... welcome to DU!

[DemocraticWing]

241. Thanks!

Looks like we both had a similar idea when choosing a name!

[okasha]

134. Damn right.

Particularly those who know nothing of our actual history.

[FSogol]

4. K & R. n/t

[PowerToThePeople]

5. I have had enough of this BS OP.

UNrec

[bahrbearian]

8. +1

The Old Great Finger Wagger strikes again

[MineralMan]

9. Then, you can trash the thread and you won't have to see it.

It's easy.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

35. And you could ignore all of the folks who post things you've 'had enough of'. It's easy. nt

[MineralMan]

63. I could, of course. However, I choose not to do that.

I have nobody on ignore and zero trashed threads. I'm here to read and reply. I read DU, along with many other sites. But, DU is the only place where I post now. That's it.

So, I read all points of view here. That's my choice.

[demwing]

223. Maybe that's why you're so fed up?

use your tech, man...use your tech!

[randys1]

105. Dont know about MM but for me that is hard to do, you see I work very hard along with others

in making sure everybody gets to vote.

I am just one person but I work at it, see my twitter below.

I do that and other stuff.

But while I am doing that I am reading about white people who will have NO trouble WHATSOEVER being allowed to vote, talking about NOT voting if Hillary is the candidate.

Makes my job just that much tougher.

oh well

But I will get help from BERNIE SANDERS if he loses, you see I work for him too, but one thing I am CERTAIN OF, if Hillary beats him, he will work his darnedest to get her elected.

[Doctor_J]

13. too many vanity threads these days

Especially from the Reagan wing of the party. Very surprised by the authoritarian mindset of the Hillarians, until I realize who their spiritual leader is.

[NCTraveler]

21. The op is a Sanders supporter.

What does it have to do with "Hillarians." Whatever that cute little name means to you. Questioning an op as being vanity, followed up by your own vanity in the very next sentence, is interesting to say the least.

[PowerToThePeople]

25. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[NCTraveler]

27. More smilies please. My little niece likes what you did here.

She saw this out of the corner of her eye and then wouldn't believe me when I said the site contained adult content. She wants to grow up quick to take part in your discussion.

[jtuck004]

95. "She wants to grow up quick to take part,,," < uh...

she might be more qualified now.

[7962]

116. Its getting rare to see actual "adult content" here,

Usually its a lot of whining and handwringing over the tiniest of things

[MineralMan]

31. Rollin', Rollin', Rollin'

Keep those smileys rollin'.

[JI7]

33. some think if you don't hate the president or Clinton

Or the dem party you can't be a Sanders supporter.

[Marr]

224. LOL, sure.

Uh-huh.

[BeanMusical]

230. A Sanders supporter, really?

With "supporters" like these...

[MADem]

157. Hahahaha...you really hung your behind out there on that one...!

"Reagan wing of the Party...! Hillerians!"

Go on and ask the thread starter who he's backing in the primary...go on, do it!



You're the punchline for a Mastercard-style joke...PRICELESS!!!!

[7962]

111. ha. no debate allowed!

[CherokeeDem]

117. True colors....

always show through.....

[Marr]

222. +1

[zeemike]

248. I have had enough of hyperbolic outrage.

But there is no end in sight...any criticism is the most vile thing ever, and if you don't praise a Dem then you are comparing them to Repugs. which we all know are the lowest form of life on the planet right?

On and on it must go, we must have our two minute hate...where we shower the rock star leader with love and praise, and throw things at the screen when we see the vile GOP ones.
We are simple people with simple minds that like simple things...and get a thrill out of the outrage.

[treestar]

264. But then you couldn't come up with any better response

Because all of those items are illogical and indefensible.

[wyldwolf]

6. Here here! All this and more.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

7. Well, you've done a nice job of getting around the "no disruptive meta" rule.

I did something similar once. And I applaud you for the creativity. I disagree with what you've posted, but I do admire your workaround.

[MineralMan]

10. This is a meta thread, but it is about far more than DU.

It's a meta thread about Democratic politics overall. DU is just a tiny fragment of Democratic discussion. If you think the only place where the things I mention are being said, you're not reading widely enough.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

15. No need for the conditional if/then. I know what I'm talking about.

Just take the compliment for what it is.

[kjones]

138. A backhanded one?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

175. Sort of, insofar that it exposes what the poster is up to. But the admiration was real.

[99Forever]

11. I've had enough pretend Democrats. Eom

[MineralMan]

12. Yeah, me too. Eom.

[99Forever]

30. Especially those that collude with Republicans to ram legislation through......

... that will finish destroying the lives of MILLIONS of working Americans.

[okasha]

153. Skinner and EarlG

are bouncing them daily. But they do continue to proliferate.

[wyldwolf]

16. Absolutely.

[NCTraveler]

22. 100% nt.

[Rex]

26. Same here.

They are not even clever anymore in their attempts.

[RKP5637]

67. Yep, that's mine too! Those that wear the democratic label but are republicans

at heart!

[frylock]

168. word up

[tkmorris]

14. "I've had enough of this stuff that DOESN"T HAPPEN AT DU"

"I don't mean you guys, I mean those other people. Over there. Somewhere".

[MineralMan]

19. Oh, it happens here, too. But DU is not the only place

where people are talking about politics. Not by a long shot. Reddit is a good place to see a collection of what is being said on the Internet, just to name one.

[HappyMe]

20. lol! Yup.

Thinly disguised and oh so "clever" complaining about DU. "Toe the line, you others!"

[Wilms]

17. Great song.

And might serve as a reality check.

[lovemydog]

260. yes!

[lovemydog]

261. Oh shit. Sorry for blowing up the thread.

'Honey, I blew up the thread with a mod symbol.'

'Ah, screw it honey. It's late.'

[ismnotwasm]

18. I think you covered it

[freshwest]

56. I would only add this to your words:

Democrats are seen as 'weak and spineless' by the GOP and RWers and deserving of being battered by emotional abusers. A bait and switch is where one is suckered in and punched, then given promise of relief.

So vulnerable, bleeding heart liberal people return to their batterer but nothing changes. The safety zone required to create solutions can't flourish in a hostile environment like that. So the person lives in a rut and nothing is accomplished.

And the batterer won't change as it keeps on working. Pretty basic stuff to me.

[Rex]

23. "You can post it in a reply to this thread."

[pintobean]

24. Look at me meta threads

[Rex]

29. "You can post it in a reply to this thread!"

I bet you did not know that!

You think MM would pass the Turing test? I don't at all.

[pintobean]

32. Not everyone takes the time

to explain the obvious.
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10024724014#post128

[Rex]

60. Oh no you did'ent!

It was just a one time post over at the Elm! He swears to Koresh!

[MineralMan]

70. Oh, I'm a meatspace entity.

I don't have to pass the Turing test. You can meet me in person and shake my hand. However, I spent about a year working on an application designed to pass it. Within its limitations, it did a pretty good job, but I didn't have time to fully populate its database or build a large enough set of response algorithms.

I don't think there are any copies of its only public iteration left on the Internet. Too long ago. A limited version that argued about operating systems pretty well was the only version I released. It was called "Flamer." If you find a copy, please link me to it. I don't have one any longer. All of my coding was lost during my move to MN.

[MineralMan]

44. Just answering a question raised earlier.

[pintobean]

47. I clicked on it thinking it was a GBCW

[Rex]

52. That was the point...

the cleverness is really lacking in that one.

[MineralMan]

61. You're not going to see that from me. Sorry.

I'll be here. If I'm not, it'll be because I'm unable to sit in front of my PC. I hope that's a long time away. One never knows, though.

[pintobean]

163. Have you ever said or thought that

at another site, then changed your mind?

[MineralMan]

166. I have no idea.

[HappyMe]

48. It's a Manny call out.

[Rex]

55. It usually is, but not obvious.

That would require a discussion and we know how that works out for the 1%ers here.

[merrily]

114. The top one percent of USians (as a group) own something like 35% of all the wealth

of this vast, rich nation. I don't think many of them spend a lot of time posting on message boards. Just a guess.

Some people want to talk about the 1% only in terms of annual income. Those who just make it into the top 1% of annual income, though, are poor in comparison to the 1% in terms of wealth. Especially if their income comes from (humph) salary. Them's da hoi polloi of the 1%.

[pintobean]

57. And a dessert topping

[MineralMan]

77. A floor polish, too.

One product does it all!

[MineralMan]

76. It's not. It's a response to the question he posed.

I chose to create a new OP to respond. He asked, "Have you had enough yet?" My OP answers his question, but is not about Manny. It's my OP. If I had wanted it to about Manny, I would have replied in his thread.

This thread is an answer. Not everyone will agree with my answer. If a poster on DU asks a question a thread title, it's likely to get answered with another thread. That's been a standard thing on DU for as long as I've been here. This thread is not about Manny. It's about the question he asked.

[HappyMe]

79. You should have posted your rant in that thread then.

Justify it all you want. It's a call out, and an opportunity to crab about DUers that don't agree with you.

[MineralMan]

107. While I appreciate your suggestion,

I think I will continue to post as I choose. I'm not good at taking directions from others. That's why I'm self employed.

[HappyMe]

136. DUers needn't take orders from you either.

[MineralMan]

144. I'm not giving any.

Truly.

[spanone]

28. K&r...

[Fearless]

34. I've had enough "compromise" when it comes to my well-being

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

36. I've had enough of Loyalty Oaths however they are disguised.

[hobbit709]

53. +1 MILLION.

[truebrit71]

62. Indeed...

eom

[840high]

249. +10

[hifiguy]

37. Capitalism and corporations are doing a fine job of destroying themselves.

The zillion-dollar question is whether they will make large swaths of the planet uninhabitable and kill billions in the process before the whole thing clanks to a halt and topples over, smashing itself and the remainder of humanity, to bits.

[Rex]

39. Of course they will, they have willing accomplices right here on a supposed progressive forum.

We are doomed and those few will keep pretending it is sugar and not poison.

[hifiguy]

42. ---

[Nay]

127. Yep, that's the question. I'll probably be dead before the final death throes, but my

poor grandson may still be around. Heaven help the ones who are forced to see this out.

[frazzled]

38. I've had enough of

people who substitute rolling-on-the-floor-laughing smilies for thoughtful, considered opinions ... because they apparently have nothing of real substance to say.

[kjones]

148. Absolutely.

Shame they can't be put in the title line, they make an excellent stand-in for "n/t" (of value).

[Sheepshank]

172. I've had enough of the one liner snarky comebacks

to real issues. As if they think that solved the problem, or put the poster in their place.....then go on to whine about all of the stuff in the OP as it relates to their favorite candidate.

[H2O Man]

40. McDonalds.

[MineralMan]

41. I agree about that.

Not lovin' it.

[byronius]

43. Right on, brother.

Could not have said it better.

[MineralMan]

46. Thank you.

[Gothmog]

45. Great OP

Thanks for posting. I share your feelings.

[MineralMan]

51. I really appreciate your reply.

We have a lot of work to do this year and next. If we don't work together, the results will be something we'll all dislike. A lot.

[Gothmog]

83. I agree-There is a ton of work ahead

GOTV is challenging enough but I also have to contend with voter id

[questionseverything]

49. i only want to address one point of yours

I've had enough of the idea that 99% of the population shares the same goals or has the same needs.

//////////////////////////////////

99 % plus need shelter,food and clean water

the1% are in a position to buy up all of it and withhold it from us

[MineralMan]

58. Most of the 99% have those things.

That's part of the misunderstanding. A small percentage doesn't have those things, or doesn't have some of them. We all need to work to help them get all of those things. That's crucial.

The 99% is not uniform in any way. It includes an enormous range of experiences and situations. That's why there is not 99% support for anything. It's a misnomer, really, and that causes confusion.

[questionseverything]

73. no offense mm but you do not live in my neighborhood

before clintons welfare reform we had a pretty decent safety net but now cash assistance is working (volunteering) 30 hours a week or 120 hrs per month for less than 400 bucks...isn't that nearly 3rd world wages?

home ownership is down and rental prices are sky rocketing, on the 1st of the month i can't drive more than 3 blocks with out seeing the signs of an eviction....everything the renter owned tossed to the curb

fracking is probably the single biggest danger as it is poisoning our water and i really hate the fact that the US has made it official policy to export it around the world

food stamps are being cut while grocery prices skyrocket ...25% of Americans have "food insecurity"

the 99% do need the same things and have the same enemy the 1%...wether they realize it or not is a different story

btw i do agree there is confusion about who is the 1%...there are only about 4000 families world wide that have that much wealth, billionaires

99.99% would of been more appropriate but that seemed confusing

[MineralMan]

75. No, I do not. I live in an affordable neighborhood in

St. Paul, MN. It's full of people who are working hard to keep their heads above water. The neighborhood suffered mightily during the recession, and many houses went into foreclosure. There are none of those left, now, without an owner or tenant living in them. It's clear that things have improved.

My neighborhood is one of the neighborhoods with a median home price range near the lowest in my city. It has recovered almost completely, and is full of young families who are working hard. They're all part of the 99%, but they're doing OK. It's not easy, but they're doing OK.

[questionseverything]

97. are you saying my neighborhood does not work hard?

i am glad your neighborhood is in such good shape altho i suspect many of your young neighbors would say they are one emergency away from disaster

how will that help them if their water is poisoned?

or the rains stop coming as they have on the west coast?

hint...if you keep reading the same thing over and over maybe it is time to listen

[SamKnause]

185. That is exactly how I took it.

I thought it was a very condescending insulting post.

I know exactly what you are talking about.

The 2 largest corporations in one county closed.

The largest corporation in one county closed.

The largest corporation in my county closed.

I have family members that work hard, extremely hard and are struggling.

I have friends who work hard and are struggling.

I live in poverty on SSDI.

They keep cutting food stamps.

They keep threatening to cut SSDI and SS.

When you live in poverty and think about being homeless

you can not have a minutes peace.

Hang in there.

That is what I am trying to do, but it gets harder every day.

[questionseverything]

199. ty for the kind words sam

what we need to do is increase the safety net,every person is worthwhile

[SamKnause]

200. I agree.

Bernie Sanders wants to increase Social Security.

[CrispyQ]

281. I don't think working hard to keep your head above water is "doing okay."

It's surviving, maybe, & TPTB have successfully convinced most of society that that's doing okay, but I disagree.

Doing okay is being able to save money every paycheck, for emergencies, your child's education & retirement. It's carrying a reasonable debt load & not having to depend on credit for daily/regular expenses like groceries or insurance. It's having enough money in the bank to get you through 3 months without pay. Doing okay is not worrying that an appendectomy will wipe out your $50 saving account & leave you severely in debt, even though you have insurance & pay your premiums on time.

A few years back there was a survey that stated half of Americans couldn't come up with $2K in 30 days without selling something, asking someone for a loan or pulling it off a credit card. Most of us are one disaster from financial ruin. The playing field is skewed more every day & the social safety net is shredded.

The system isn't broken. The system is fixed.

Do I think Bernie Sanders can fix it? No. Even with a democratic Congress I don't think he could fix it. Not only are there too many blue dogs, it's a behemoth. The system. It's corrupt through & through. But I do think Bernie can generate a national debate, get people talking & thinking about why it is that things are generally not better economically, no matter which party is in office. That's why he's so focused on the economic issues & less on the social ones. TPTB use social issues to divide us. Bernie is using economic issues to unite us.

I've said I won't vote for HRC, but if she gets the nom, I suspect I will. I'll fall in line & be a good liberal dem. I'll hold my nose, vote for the Goldman Sachs candidate & I will sit down & shut up. Yes, that's what I'll do. I will not walk my precinct for her. I will not call for her. I will not put an HRC sign in my yard. I will not post about her on FB & tell my friends what a great candidate the dems have. I will never wear a tee shirt with her face & name on it. And I would never, never, ever send her any money. I will vote for her & that is all.

[MineralMan]

283. Well, I've been working hard to keep my head above water since

1974. That's when I decided to be self-employed. I've never looked back with regret. There have been good years and awful years. During the good years, I've bought a house and put money away for retirement. My wife and I had a pretty good nest egg until George W. Bush destroyed the economy. It's gone now. I had to use it to live on during the very worst years. I still have a house, though, and am having some good years again, but I'll be 70 years old next month and see no path to retirement. I'll keep working.

I don't get a paycheck. I get paid by the contract for the work I do. My income is variable from month to month. We live frugally, but it's difficult to put money away. Things keep happening. The car needs fixing. The lawnmower or air conditioner breaks down. I understand living from month to month. We do have credit established, though and a very high FICO score. We keep everything paid down, but when crap happens, we do have to draw on that credit. Then, we pay it down again.

So, I do understand living on the edge. I've been doing it for 40 years most of the time. It was my choice to be self-employed. My wife is also self-employed. She has been since 1989. It's an interesting life, and one without any luxuries, but it's a good life. We have no children, by choice. We live frugally, but own a car with payments every month. We didn't used to, but unexpected repairs on the old cars we used to drive made buying a new car the best decision.

Now, you'll have to excuse me. I have to go mow the lawn and get back to work on a website content contract. There are bills to pay.

[CrispyQ]

286. What a self-absorbed response.

[MineralMan]

287. No. It's my personal experience.

That does not mean that I'm unaware of the experiences of others. I cannot speak for anyone but myself, though. Why don't you share your own experience? That would be instructive.

[peacebird]

50. I've had enough of being sold out by politicians who seek to pad their own pockets

I've had enough of corporations raping and pillaging our environment while paying their employees a pittance.
I've had enough of CEO's making hundreds of times what workers make, while constantly looking to cut benefits and salaries of same workers to increase profits (and hence CEOs bonus)

[bvar22]

177. I've had enough of politicians who make promises to the Working Class,

...and then throw them all away as soon as they hit the Oval Office.

[SaranchaIsWaiting]

54. I for one don't want to kill capitalism, neither does Sanders.

It's quite the stretch between saying that and have the greedy pigs pay their fair share back to the taxpayers who funded them in the first place in many cases. It's what Warren said, you made it, good, now give back some.

[MineralMan]

64. Of course Sanders doesn't want that.

He wants to help make this country more functional and more equal for everyone. That's why I'll be caucusing for him on March 1, 2016 in Minnesota. Senator Sanders understands how things work and what is needed. I'm not talking about anything Bernie Sanders has said in this OP.

He's an outstanding candidate. I fear he will not have enough support to get the Democratic nomination, though. If not, then I'll be voting for whomever is the nominee of the Democratic Party.

[SaranchaIsWaiting]

66. Okay, I misunderstood. Sorry

I assumed you were, nevermind.

[MineralMan]

71. Not in any way. Senator Sanders has never said any of the

things in my list. Never. He won't either.

[SaranchaIsWaiting]

87. I know, but socialist is getting all kinds of play and redefinitions.

[LanternWaste]

59. I've had enough of petulant moralizing by people telling me what they've had enough of.

I've had enough of petulant moralizing by people telling me what they've had enough of. Just off the top of my head...

[MineralMan]

65. Yeah, me too.

Lots of that going around these days, isn't there?

[upaloopa]

69. Well I think the idea that there needs to be a group

think here at DU sucks. Whether it is Bernie great Hillary sucks or we need to wipe all history of the South off the face of the earth or you aren't a real progressive sucks.
Seems to me there is a tendency in some here to try and bully anyone who doesn't accept their paradigm.

[Hekate]

78. Kickety Rec, MM.

[Ed Suspicious]

80. We take it as a given that Republicans are bags of shit, but really we're always calling them out.

We call out democrats who fall short because this is our house. We clean up our own house before we start criticizing that of the neighbor's. Democrats who behave like Republicans are of no use to me so I will call them out every single time. You should as well. I've had enough of my party thinking the way to beat their party is to cozy up close to them at night and hope they respect us in the morning.

I've had enough.

[BeeBee]

81. Thank you! I agree! n/t

[whatchamacallit]

82. Yeah? Enough to scurry back to FR?

[MineralMan]

85. Uh, no...

I got banned there in 2006 for "anti-freeping."

Haven't been back since then.

[BeanMusical]

232. And you were a member of that dump for how long?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

292. 7 years. nt

[BeanMusical]

297. 7 years?

That's longer than he's been here... And it took them all this time to realize that he was the epitome of progressivism instead of a racist, homophobic POS and ban him?

[CreekDog]

84. When will you put your foot down?

[OnyxCollie]

86. I've had enough lectures from supporters of the status quo.

[Enthusiast]

149. Geez. Me too.

[BeanMusical]

228. +1000

[840high]

250. Oh YES!!!!!

[Andy823]

88. K&R

I am sure you will be condemned by those who we have all had enough of!

[Maedhros]

89. I've had enough of your posts.

/ignore.

[SammyWinstonJack]

198. Ha!

[whatchamacallit]

90. But you're still down with

Matlock tho, right?

?fb

[BeanMusical]

238. :snort:

[demmiblue]

91. Actual Firefox Search Suggestions for, "I've had enough of ..."

[greatauntoftriplets]

94. This post should have hundreds of recs!

[Andy823]

99. You would think so

But if it isn't a doom and gloom, we hate everything kind of a thread, it doesn't get as many recs. Guess the doom and gloomers outnumber those who actually believe things are not as bad as some here try to portray.

[ablamj]

243. Why?

What's so great about it?

it seems like just a lot of whining to me...

[lame54]

96. So have these guys...

?list=PL1HPN8SoyDKkLMiMPv84aXgKaqvsKWvBA

[McCamy Taylor]

98. Bravo! You speak for me, Mineral Man.

I was seriously considering leaving DU, until I read your post. A voice of reason in the swamp of insanity.



This OP makes me happier than anything I have read here in a while, because it proves that Democrats are still alive and well and kicking.

[Romeo.lima333]

100. yes but what to do about it

[lark]

101. You hit my pet peeve

"I've finally had enough with declarations that anyone would refuse to vote for the Democratic nominee for President. "

[MisterP]

103. point by point

then Dems should stop saying that the only way to win is to adopt GOP policies and Dem Presidents should stop tanking the party's strength and incinerating their goodwill by passing laws using the GOP
then they should stop walking pack progressive actions, counterbalancing them with a new war, or redefining crap as shinola
give examples
so are we: stop treating us like veal, or literally calling us veal
we don't like the smears against Sanders either
we're also sick of Sanders supporters being accused of driving people away from the party: 20 years of futzing around and putting money first did that
only the polls and gerrymandering say that
ever heard of machine politics?
so are we
examples!
99% of the country does share the same interests: in fact it's closer to 99.99%, since the 1% would rather have a country that worked instead of money being sent from investors' numbered accounts to Senators' numbered accounts
no! not the corporations! Tom Perkins was right and the new Kristallnacht is upon us!
examples
stop backstabbing us, then
the same fantasy that these politicians sell their campaigns on?
examples II electric boogaloo
essentialism's a problem but not within the party
we need a populist candidate or the Dems will just keep losing all three branches and blaming everyone but their perfect strategists for it
let us have fair primaries and people won't want to go third-party so much

this is why nobody believes you when you say you're the party's biggest Sanders supporter

[MineralMan]

110. I've not said I'm the greatest Sanders supporter.

I am a supporter, though.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

214. On the contrary, you ARE Sander's greatest DU supporter

If all the supporters of Sanders were like you, rather than displaying the type of behavior that you "Had enough of", it wouldn't be nearly so easy for me to vote for Senator and Secretary of State Clinton.

You actually come across as persuasive. Rather than the standard "screeching to the choir".

We may disagree on a few issues, but you have my respect, and are a credit to your candidate.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[MineralMan]

215. I thank you for that.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

234. That has to be one of the most colossally stupid reasons to not vote for a particular candidate...

the behavior of said candidate's anonymous message board supporters. Hopefully voters will act like grown-ups at the polls and focus on ISSUES, not the behavior of total strangers on a message board.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

257. Mind you that's not the basis of my decision...

...but when I read attack after attack on the Democratic party from Sanders supporters, saying among other things that President Obama should be thrown in jail, it really makes it easy to dismiss the good Senator as just another Kucinich - even though I know he's not.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[B2G]

104. The term "3D chess" nt

[Peacetrain]

106. Could not log in fast enough to rec this

and give it a kick.. and say Amen and Amen

[MineralMan]

118. Thanks!

[MannyGoldstein]

108. I've had enough of people who tell us that

continuing to do what we've done for the past three decades will begin to yield different results real soon now.

[MineralMan]

115. Thanks for the reply, Manny.

Your question got me thinking. I appreciate that.I didn't want to hijack your thread, so I decided to answer it in my own.

[cilla4progress]

109. With you,

MineralMan.

[MineralMan]

119. Thank you.

It's good to hear.

[Autumn]

112. I've had more than enough of the Look at me!!!! OPs.

I've had enough of the I'm doing fine, my economy has recovered, if yours hasn't it's not my problem.
I've had enough of the posters who can't stand another DUer but won't ignore that DUer and attack them over and over in their threads and alert on them instead of being an adult and ignoring that poster.
I've had enough of the lectures at how horrible we are if we express disappointment in politicians and being told that we are haters.
I've had enough of people who think we are stupid enough to think that any single politician or elected official can effect sweeping changes alone. No one here thinks that, it's a fantasy in a few posters minds.
I've had enough of a majority of Democratic voters treated as the enemy because we don't see things the same way as others.
I've had enough of Democrats who disagree with democrats being accused of attacking other Democrats.
I've had enough of people telling people that they don't recognize progressive actions when they occur, even when said actions are in no way progressive and in fact are actually a shit sandwich.
I've had enough of Democrats acting like republicans and being told I should STFU and swallow my anger and get the fuck out there and vote.
I've had more than enough of people who can't look into a mirror and see that they do the same as the one's they are complaining about only in reverse.
I've had enough of being sold out by politicians who seek to pad their own parachute while cutting the cords on ours.
I've had enough of people who say some of us want to kill capitalism, no one here is that stupid, the banks, wall street and corporations who pay no taxes, that's an entirely different matter.
I've had enough of people who like to pretend they are the only people who are smart enough to actually know how things work.
I've had enough of people who hate DU and DUers but won't stay the fuck away from either.
I've had enough of people telling me I have to vote for what doesn't work, if it worked we wouldn't be in tghe shape we are today.

I've had enough and I grow weary of fucking passive aggressive lectures.

[MineralMan]

123. Thanks for YOUR point of view.

It's good to hear what YOU think, too.

[Autumn]

132. Well it was YOUR idea.

[MineralMan]

146. Yup. Thanks again.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

124. +1 Well said.

[MannyGoldstein]

135. ^^^ Autumn Speaks For Me ^^^

Righteous!

If it were an OP, it would get hundreds of recs.

[Autumn]

142. Only if you posted it Manny!

But I'm flattered I get to speak for you for once!

[MannyGoldstein]

147. I'll make a wager:

Put it up as an OP. Less than 100 recs, I'll send $25 to Bernie. More than 100 recs, I'll send 25 bucks to Bernie instead.

[Autumn]

156. Posted

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026896539

[MannyGoldstein]

162. OK, let's see how it goes

Will Bernie's campaign earn 25 bucks? Or have to settle with $25?

It's all on your shoulders now.

[QC]

171. Locked as meta.

Clearly all meta is equal but some is more equal than others.

[Autumn]

186. This is why

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026895416#post183

[BeanMusical]

237. Sad but true.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

288. 7 Years a Freeper's post stands, but Autumn's gets locked.

seems legit to me.

[Duppers]

180. "Your post was unsuccessful

because the thread you are replying to is locked."




Whaaaat?!

[Autumn]

183. Another host deemed it Meta. Technically it was a copy cat

and those are not popular or desirable but Bernie's Act Blue went up by 25 bucks so it's all good. Manny is a man of his word. I shoulda held out for more

[MerryBlooms]

269. You can still rec even though it's locked.

[Duppers]

282. Yep. I did that yesterday.

It's picked up more rec'ds since then. Yay!

[Marr]

229. I've had a enough of the double standards in modding.

Your thread was locked. It was certainly no more "off topic" or "passive aggressive" or "copycat" or "meta" than this pile of shit.

[BeanMusical]

236. Yes but some people have mastered the art of butt-kissing to a nauseating level.

Hence the preferential treatment.

[BeanMusical]

239. Oh, I just saw who locked it.

It explains a lot.

[QC]

240. It explains everything. n/t

[MineralMan]

209. Cool. I'll match your donation.

My Social Security payment was deposited this morning. I'll send him $25 right now. It's been a couple of weeks since my last donation.

[Autumn]

216. Thank you, Bernies up 150 now.

[MineralMan]

217. Good. I wish I could donate more.

Maybe later.

[Autumn]

218. I do a monthly donation. When my SS arrives I'll kick in another 25 on top.

[MineralMan]

219. My income is too irregular to commit to

monthly donations. I do it when I can.

[QC]

158. Thank you. n/t

[Duppers]

167. +1

[MisterP]

184. so will MM delete their OP as is the usual, or just start a pity party?

[Marr]

227. I wish that I had more than one "+1" to give.

+1

[aikoaiko]

113. ....and get off my lawn, you darn kids.

[MineralMan]

129. Everyone's welcome on my lawn.

If enough people show up, I'll grill some brats and make a beer run.

[kjones]

155. ^ The "get with the times/cranky old man" comments

I've had enough of those.

[MineralMan]

159. LOL!

Everyone's welcome on my lawn. Watch the dogs, though. They lick and steal brats. Fair warning.

[MattSh]

294. Well, you might not like the neighborhood kids...

but that's no reason to grill them.

[MineralMan]

295. Bazinga!

That's funny!

[mcar]

120. You said it well MM

I've had enough of people trashing Democrats, particularly our Democratic POTUS, on this democratic board.

Criticism is fine. POSUCS is not criticism. Turd Way, corporatist is not criticism. No better than Republicans is not criticism.

We are Democrats. Debating issues is something I was taught to do around my family's dinner table from the time I was a child.

This is not debate. This is trashing people, insulting good DUers posts, beliefs and decisions because they don't completely agree with the Kool Kidz.

I was going to post a link to a sexist slam against HRC by Ralph Nader. I had to stop and wonder how many people on this board would agree with his diatribe.

Sickening.

[MineralMan]

133. So did you.

Thanks!

[Sheepshank]

176. well said! n/t

[SCantiGOP]

121. you nailed it

Not often that I wish I had written a post word for word, but you have said what has been eating at me for months on this Board. Thank you !!

[MineralMan]

137. Thanks for your kind words.

[kjones]

122. +1

Purity tests.
Dichotomous thinking.
Martyrdom complexes.
Tunnel vision.

[polichick]

125. I've had enough of corporatists conning voters by pretending to be populists.

[Stuckinthebush]

126. BRAVO!

Thank you for saying what the vast majority of DUers are probably thinking.

I am sick of seeing the threads that try to pull down our Democratic candidates and president.

[MineralMan]

139. And thank you for replying!

[Not Sure]

128. This one's easy

I've had enough of being sold down the river by the party of labor.

[BeyondGeography]

130. Mortaiity is tough enough

Always assuming the worst is unhealthy. It's not the way to make the most of your time here. I've had enough of people who make that choice.

Thanks for the opportunity.

[MineralMan]

140. Thanks for adding your thoughts.

[William769]

131. Kick and highly recommended!

[MineralMan]

141. Thanks, William.

It means a lot!

[William769]

145. I give credit where credit is due.

[Mike Nelson]

143. I've Had Enough...

Republicans in the White House.

[MineralMan]

151. Absolutely!

[freshwest]

182. Yeah! n/t

[MADem]

150. I've had enough of the FUD that produce those memes of which you speak!

People who create and disseminate that kind of shit aren't working for the Democrats, that I KNOW.

And people who repeat it are either purposefully enabling the spreaders, or they're clueless in the extreme and need to get smart.

So yeah, I've had enough, too.

We're Democrats--we're not supposed to be organized, or "lockstep," but we're not supposed to be stupid, either. Anyone who prosecutes themes that make a Republican rub his hands together, gleefully, is just that.

[MineralMan]

154. FUD! Yes!

[Politicub]

152. K & f'n' R!

[LWolf]

160. Okay.

I'd had enough 20 years ago of corporate education "reform" when it hit at the state level...but voters keep voting for deformers.

I've had enough of pretending that health insurance, and a for-profit health care system, is going to provide equal access to health care.

I've had enough of pretending that there is something healthy or functional about "patriotism."

I've had enough of the decidedly unchristian organized Christian religion.

I've had enough of war, of waging war, of pretending that war brings peace or prosperity or "democracy" to others.

I've had enough of empire.

I've had enough of capitalism.

I've had enough of neo-liberalism and neo-conservatism.

I've had enough of pretending that our system of government and elections aren't deeply, maybe irrevocably, corrupt.

I've had enough of hate and of fear.

I've had enough of partisan politics.

[MineralMan]

161. Thanks for posting your list.

Truly.

[Sheepshank]

181. well said!!!

I can be on board with ALL of those

[JEB]

251. Thank you for your list of the truly vile stuff

we are forced to eat. Excellent list.

[DJ13]

255. Perfect, thanks!

[Rose Siding]

164. Amen

[Unknown Beatle]

165. "I've had enough of equating Democrats with Republicans. They are not the same."

Except when it come to Fast Track, right?

[McCamy Taylor]

169. I had to read this again. I think I'll bookmark it

and everytime I read something truly awful, I will go back to it.

[frylock]

170. I like turtles

[lovemydog]

173. I've had enough of posters who incessantly criticize one individual or another.

Democratic socialists and democrats who work for positive change find bridges, they don't burn them.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

[jeff47]

174. I've had enough of the generation that fucked up our country

complaining that mine didn't fix it. When they actively fought our attempts to do so. And now complain that we are just lazy and/or stupid when we refuse to happily eat the shit sandwich. "But it has really good mayo!!"

I eagerly await the lecture about how it's still all our fault. If only my kindergarten class had worked harder for Carter's re-election.

You tired of the world you created for us, MM? We are too. We have been for twenty years. How about we finally do something about it instead of continuing to pretend it is always 1972? No? Well enjoy the shit sandwich. We'll clean up after you are out of the way.

[Colorado Liberal]

178. I've had enough of being maligned for things I've never even thought, let alone said

I've had enough of strawman arguments

[avebury]

179. I am going to trash this thread because to

respond in the manner I would like would most likely result in my reply being alerted on.

[Cryptoad]

187. Ive had enough of ,,,

those that do not believe that the absolute worst thing that can happen is for a Republican to be elected to the White House in 2016 and must must be prevented by all means!

[seveneyes]

188. Looking like a Showdown

[QC]

189. My cat's breath smells like cat food. n/t

[For Freddie]

190. My Post

I just posted my thoughts on this,also, under Split Party.

I am old. 70... I've seen it all.Lived much of history first hand.
I met Eleanor Roosevelt when I was 12.
Lived Civil Rights/Peace/Environmental Health with Pete and Toshie Seeger/got a Home Health certificate and worked directly with AIDS/and homeless addicts.
Did 10 years in animal rescue. Now reworking Civil Rights.
Was one of the ones that formed the Feminist Club at St. Cloud U in the 1970's.. So... like you I have had enough too.

I have a BIG and diverse family. Kids on the street.
My focus is much more life and death in real life.
I do not have the time or energy for hair on fire freak outs.
The concept any president or elected official has all the power to change everything and make life what we want, with Teddy Bears and Chocolate coming from heaven, is a luxury of youth and or just plain ignorance.

We who have been around a spell and been through this dance a time or two must focus our energy now. Wisdom and experience is needed.There is so much dis-information to blow out of the water.

Long ago I wanted to work for the Urban League as a lawyer.
So I went into Pre-Law at St. Cloud after finishing my Art/Art History major. I taught art for a spell at the prison there.

Then I was entranced by the beginnings of profiling and Forensic Criminology in Justice Studies at St. Cloud under Dr. Robert Prout.
This helped me a great deal get real about politics.

I was raised in a Sicilian neighborhood in Jersey.
I understood how privacy rights, 2nd amendment issue really worked on the street. There was none. Everyone did what they had to,to survive. It shocked me college how many white middle class folks had so many illusions as to how the world worked or was "supposed to work". Those illusions are still afoot in a disruptive manner.

I lived the Civil Rights movement in urban New York in the 50's and 60's. Street, non-white street life, has a way of waking one up to what is real,Living through "riots" and the MLK outrage. Then Bobby.

So... I try to state my Path here in a grounded way.
I am glad to find another grounded adult.
The pragmatic Minnesota male is a critter I greatly appreciate.
Thank You... But we must be patient and strong with the young ones. Raising a houseful of them has helped me.
Thank You for your writing.

[MineralMan]

194. Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

What you said rings true, and is similar to my own experience.

[TBF]

191. I've had enough of net nannies spewing META

You asked.

[Prism]

192. It's time to put an end to all forms pointless tyranny

I've had enough of 30 second YouTube ads on my phone.

I've had enough of so-called liberals who spent years bullying LGBTers on DU now lecturing ever-y-one about what is in LGBTers' best interest. You people don't care. I'm not a tool in your petty message board wars. Stop pretending you ever gave a damn.

I've had enough of my boyfriend leaving dirty socks in inexplicable locations around the apartment until laundry day is an Easter egg hunt.

I've had enough of passive aggression. It isn't attractive in teenagers, so it certainly isn't attractive nor interesting in grown ass adults.

I've had enough of Berkeley drivers. You people are terrible and should feel bad.

I've had enough of people complaining about personal attacks and how horrible X is on DU, when 90% of their own posts are personal attacks and talking about how horrible everything on DU is.

I've had enough of people recommending Oprah picks. Time Traveler's Wife was terrible!

I've had enough of people wagging their finger at me. I'm a grown ass man. I've a thought about more productive finger usage.

I've had enough of terrible donut places in the Bay Area. It's a simple pastry, people. Get it together.

I've had enough of people bewailing American media when they preoccupy the vast majority of their online activity with some of the most useless topics and content I've ever seen. The American media churns out shit because we're all such avid consumers of it.

I've had enough of my hair. If it refuses any further to stay down during the day, I will resort to actual cement.

I've had enough of people who spent years saying awful things about my community and my family thinking it's their place on DU to lecture me or anyone else here on anything at all. Jaws have hinges so they may be closed every now and again. It's an evolutionary suggestion.

[MineralMan]

195. I love your post!

Thanks.

[demmiblue]

196. Isn't that the truth:

I've had enough of people complaining about personal attacks and how horrible X is on DU, when 90% of their own posts are personal attacks and talking about how horrible everything on DU is.

And the others aren't too shabby, either.

[Kali]

210. oh yeah! that one

spend 90% of your posts whining about DU and how much it sucks. then why the fuck are you here?

so cute and adorable

[MoonRiver]

193. THANK YOU!!

I agree 100%

[MineralMan]

201. And thank you, as well.

[betsuni]

197. Can't recommend this enough, thank you. nt

[MineralMan]

202. I appreciate your comment so much.

[Cha]

203. "I've finally had enough with declarations that anyone would refuse to vote for the Democratic

nominee for President."

But, they get so mad.. they want to stomp their little feet in protest.

[MineralMan]

204. I suppose so.

[Hekate]

205. I've had enough of those who have no clue how a trade agreement gets written or how a bill is passed

[MineralMan]

206. Learning how things work takes time.

Yesterday, I posted a thread with links about how each state picks delegates to the nation's convention. It sank like a rock. It takes too much time to learn how things are actually done, I guess. A pity, really.

[Hekate]

207. Or as Barbie whined about math, it's hard work.

Oy

[BlancheSplanchnik]

276. Well I've had enough

Of missing good posts.

Sorry I missed that.

Glad I didn't miss this one.

[MineralMan]

279. Thanks. It was a Sunday post, I think.

Sundays are slow on DU.

[freedom fighter jh]

208. I've had enough of hearing that Bernie can't win

and supporting him is not serious.

I've also had enough poison ivy on my legs, but I should have known better than to go out wearing shorts.

[840high]

253. In my younger days got poison

ivy on my tush - don't screw around in the woods.

[ucrdem]

211. Rec'ced on the first enough cuz that was enough enoughs.

DU. Always oddly compelling .

[JTFrog]

212. Wish they would bring back GD:P since GD is overflowing w/OP's bashing DU/DUers.

Not that I miss fight club, but it would be nice to see it somewhat contained.

(Not aiming this at any OP in particular, just in general)

[40RatRod]

213. I've had enough of...

...friends I have known for years who suddenly think it is OK to fill my in-box with political emails trashing my POTUS and other dems who are running for office. I send them a nice note to please stop and if it happens again, I put them on my conscientious ignore list.

[demwing]

220. I've had enough of the term "ODS" being applied to progressives

Actually, since Obama's recent victory with his "Republican allies," I don't expect we'll be hearing that one again very soon...small favors, right?

[Thor_MN]

221. I've had enough of people twisting themselves into pretzels to be offended.

People who will twist other's words into the sketchiest context to find something to complain about, rather than just reading what was typed.

Thanks MM, if it's not obvious, I don't think you are in the category I described above.

[Fuddnik]

225. You want, maybe we should get off your lawn too?

[BeanMusical]

231. Lol!

[Bonobo]

233. I've had enough of people pretending to be Bernie supporters that are not. nt

[BeanMusical]

244. THIS!

[hrmjustin]

235. I have had enough of Hillary hatred.

[Fuddnik]

242. I've had enough beer. I'm going to bed.

You kids play nice.

[JoePhilly]

245. Enough of the Combustible hair Club's struting around when ...

... most of their predictions of doom actually turn out to be wrong.

[dflprincess]

246. I've had enough of Democrats like Tom Bakk

(MineralMan knows who I mean)

cutting back room deals with Republicans to undermine the best interests of the people and to "get even" with other Democrats like Mark Dayton and Rebecca Otto.

They're the reason I only donate to candidates, not to any party organization.

[Martin Eden]

247. I don't think you've had enough

You're obviously asking for more with the OP.

[riversedge]

252. well said. thank you.

[longship]

254. I am tired of perpetual presidential campaign mode.

Where infighting over who is or is not running on the next Democratic presidential election becomes like a war cry which divides a party.

IMHO, let the GOP do that with their ever increasing residents of their clown car. We don't need that here. In fact, it hurts us all.

Tearing down a Democratic presidential candidate does nothing to support ones own alternative choice. Infighting solves no problems except to breed more infighting. It only tears down the Democratic brand itself.

The best way to promote ones candidate is to promote ones candidate. Simple, isn't it.

And by the way, everybody, perpetual campaigns serve nobody's best interest. That is why I support all prospective and declared candidates equally.

And thank you, MM, for writing much of what I have been thinking myself.

[Jamaal510]

256. Some of these

should immediately set off red flags on a site for Democrats. Like when people say that it won't matter if the R's control all 3 branches, nothing could be further from the truth when you look at the GOP's overall agenda versus that of the Dem party. Also, not voting for the D's in the GE if (insert candidate's name) becomes the nominee would mean one less vote, which could make a huge difference in a competitive election. Not voting at all means ones less vote. The ultimate goal of this site is to get more Democrats elected, and that task becomes harder as less of us vote. It tells me that people who say those things might have other motives than necessarily seeing a Democrat win.
I don't have much to add to your list, but I especially liked the 99% part of it. That could not be emphasized enough. The so-called 99% doesn't have the same interests in mind, even though we all would be benefited by progressive policies. A huge portion of the 99% is not sympathetic to typical progressive causes like voting rights, expanded health care, or seeing stiffer regulations of food production or the environment (even though those things are meant to benefit them). Meanwhile, there are so-called 1%ers who do advocate those positions. That was one of my biggest problems with the Occupy Movement.

[Betty Karlson]

258. And I can't get enough of it.

There is frustration; it needs to be vented. We need to reform the party and we can't do that without serious criticism.

Cry me a river if you want, then get over it.

[sub.theory]

259. You're fighting the good fight

But it's going to fall on deaf ears. And that's really the whole problem. The Internet has turned out to be one giant echo chamber. It's tragic, but it's increasingly impossible to have any sort of sane debate about anything online. And it's not just DU. The second someone disagrees, the knives come out and the blood starts flowing. It's infested everywhere online that isn't heavily moderated and policed to prevent disagreement, which is a sad compromise. It has so much inertia behind it now, that I'm not sure what could turn it around.

[Fumesucker]

265. It's always been that way

I'm having trouble thinking of anything more viciously vituperative than Usenet political newsgroups and I was on those well before Y2K, DU is boringly staid comparatively.

[B Calm]

262. K&R

[treestar]

263. Agree

Each item in your list is an illogical position to take. And we hear each of them too often here, as if repetition is going to make them true.

[Number9Dream]

266. I've had enough of my Republican congressman running unopposed...

...and then having the Democratic Party "leadership" blaming the Democratic electorate for poor turnout. Give us a good candidate who can beat the republican. My Congressman is PA Republican, Charlie Dent. Last year, he ran unopposed by any Democratic opponents. Democrats in PA's 15th district would love to vote for any Democratic candidate against Charlie Dent, but the Democratic Party can't come up with a single candidate to run against Dent. This isn't exactly motivating turnout. Plus, gerrymandering has split the Lehigh Valley for the first time ever. (BTW - Dent is not the moderate the media makes him out to be).

[Violet_Crumble]

267. That's it! I've had enough too!

What I've had enough of is:

• Bulleted lists where the bullets aren't there
  
• Lists where most points begin with the same sentence fragment and aren't grouped together
  
• A lack of white space
  
• Too many unnecessary words

Here. Try it this way:

I've had enough of:

• equating Democrats with Republicans. They are not the same.
  
• failing to recognize progressive actions when they occur.
  
• Democrats attacking other Democrats, while ignoring Republicans.
  
• exaggerations and untruths about a broad range of Democratic officeholders.
  
• people who support individual Presidential candidates being accused of ruining everything.
  
• the belief that a majority of congressional districts would gladly elect a truly progressive candidate.
  
• a majority of Democratic voters treated as the enemy.
  
• people who believe that they alone can speak for "the People."
  
• the idea that 99% of the population shares the same goals or has the same needs.
  
• the belief that the answer to everything is to kill corporations or destroy capitalism.
  
• ridicule of people who suggest that reality and practicality matter in politics.
  
• people being treated as "traitors" if they don't share some particular belief about some issue.
  
• the fantasy that any single politician or elected official can effect sweeping changes alone.
  
• fantastic thinking that ignores how things actually function.

Just when you thought it'd never end, I've had more than enough of:

• people calling our Democratic President vile names.
  
• seeing GOTV dismissed as useless and a waste of time.
  
• single issue politics overriding everything else that is happening.

And to finish up:

• I've had enough with a disappointment with one outcome meaning that everything is lost.
  
• I've had way more than enough of the idea that it doesn't matter if the Republicans control all three branches of government.
  
• I've finally had enough with declarations that anyone would refuse to vote for the Democratic nominee for President.

There. Isn't that far easier to read?

[Hotler]

268. ...........

[sufrommich]

270. k&r. There's a lot of "I'll take my ball and go home if I

don't get what I want" types on DU. Not by coincidence,for all the insults they throw around here,they have incredibly thin skin when anyone pushes back. Bravo,Mineral Man.

[MineralMan]

271. I almost posted an OP about kid's games and the

"I'll take my ball and go home" thing. I decided not to do that, though. So, I posted the OP that started this thread, instead.

Thanks for replying!

[PatrickforO]

272. Well...

I've had enough of corporate propaganda, union busting, and privatization, especially of schools and prisons.

But there's a kind of new (not really) paradigm out there, especially for local areas. The framework is called 'regenerative capitalism.' There's an essay by that name, and a website that calls for a lot of good things we can do locally; things like microlending, slow money, slow food, B corporations, employee owned companies...these are some quality of life things that give me hope, at least.

[MineralMan]

273. Thanks for your post.

Most corporations in the US, numerically, are small businesses. The vast majority, in fact. Incorporation has an important function in business, although it can be abused, too. Capitalism, in itself, is not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, I can't imagine a thriving nation that doesn't rely on privately owned businesses for its economic health. Uncontrolled capitalism that allows huge corporations to have way too much influence is the problem.

You're right, there are exciting development in business creation and funding. I'm all for this.

[BumRushDaShow]

274. Huzzah

[mmonk]

275. I have no poms poms to join you.

It will take particular candidates for me.

[MineralMan]

277. I'm not looking for cheerleaders, frankly.

This OP is my opinion. Others have different opinions.

[LynneSin]

278. I had enough with 8 years of Bush to know. ..

there is absolutely no way I will vote any way other than Democrat in November of 2016.

You cannot tell me that if Hillary was to get then nomination she would be a Worse choice than any of the GOPcandidates out there. There are some issues I have with Hillary but overwhelmingly she is still far superior that any republican and I would campaign very hard for her if she was nominated. Just like I would if it was Sanders, O'Malley or Chaffee.

[MineralMan]

280. I'm sure that the vast majority of Democratic voters

agree with that. They'll decide who the nominee will be in the primaries, and then vote for that nominee. They're Democrats and Democrats vote for Democrats. It's a pretty simple equation.

[d_legendary1]

289. I've been saying that the whole time.

I love Bernie Sanders but if Hillary gets the nod I'll be voting for her on election day. I'll be damned if I see another Republican President in this life time.

[MineralMan]

290. Thank you.

[daleanime]

284. I've had enough also....

enough of being discarded by this administration/party.

[MineralMan]

285. You've not benefited in any way from this administration?

I certainly have. Many people I know have.

Were you not harmed by the Bush administration? I certainly was. Many people I know were, too.

So far in my 70 years, I have never been completely satisfied by any administration. I never expect to be.

[daleanime]

291. To you really think I'm upset because I haven't been completely satisfied?

Because that is a foolproof conversation stopper.

[MineralMan]

293. I have no idea what you think nor do I know anything

about you, really. I've probably read some of your posts on DU, but I couldn't tell you a thing about what I've read that you wrote.

So, tell me why you're upset, because I don't know. Use as many words as you need. They're free.

[saidsimplesimon]

296. GOTV is action we need more of MineralMan

I've had enough of people complaining about government who are unwilling to do anything about it.
I've had enough of our media, military and intelligence community telling US we can't question our government.
I've had enough of a Congress, both houses, who serve their corporate masters and donors not the people.
I've had enough of voter suppression and other misdeeds of the Koch Brothers and Republicans.

I'll stop there.

[MineralMan]

298. I agree about GOTV!