What abortion opponents want...

[Jeebo]

They want a world in which nobody ever has or wants sex, unless it's within a monogamous heterosexual marriage, and then it happens only once for each child the couple is going to have, and even then it's always under the covers, with the lights out, and even then, neither the husband nor the wife can enjoy it.

I wish we could show anti-abortion people that it's not that kind of world, it never can be that kind of world, and it's just plain silly to want it to be that kind of world.

Ron

[no_hypocrisy]

1. Days of the Theocracy

First they fight abortion,
Birth control is next,
Then comes sex if you're not married,
Finally, out goes sex.
Put the prayers back in the schools,
Install parochiaid,
Allow for corporal punishment,
And then you've got it made!

Chorus:
We're going back, back
To the good old days,
When men were really men
And women knew their place;
Back, back a couple of centuries,
And welcome back the days
Of the theocracy!

The family is so holy
There must be no divorce.
And if a wife is not content,
She must adjust, of course.
And if he's forced to beat her
It's all for her own good;
She must know what her limits are
As any woman should!

Chorus

The next to go is daycare,
It's all a commie plot!
What could be more fulfilling
Than a child, wanted or not?
The woman's work is housework--
God wanted it that way!
A salaried job degrades her, since
She never works for pay!

Chorus

They teach us woman's lot
Is love, honor and obey,
And while their crusty notions
Seem like jokes to us today.
They're sitting in the Capitol,
They're voting on our lives;
If we don't stop them soon
Our freedom will not long survive!

No going back, back
to the bad old days,
When men were really masters
And women were their slaves;
Let's go ahead, ahead
For future centuries
And build a world that's based
On true democracy.
And build a world that's based on true equality.
(A-person)

[dawg]

2. That's just not true.

Those folks are totally okay with the husband enjoying the act.

But you got everything else right!

[Jeebo]

5. It is true in some subcultures...

In the Southern Baptist subculture I was raised in, NOBODY is allowed to enjoy it. Not women or men.

Ron

[dawg]

7. I was just poking a little fun at the implied misogyny of some of these people, but ...

I'm sure there are weirdos out there with all sorts of messed-up ideas about sex.

For what it's worth, I'm Southern Baptist myself, and I have never actually encountered anyone who tried to teach that husbands and wives shouldn't enjoy the sexual side of their relationship. But I'm sure those people *do* exist somewhere.

[gollygee]

3. They want the husband to enjoy it

If you hear them talk, they expect the wife to submit at all times whether or not she's interested. It's her "wifely duty."

I assure you that the husband's enjoyment is taken into account.

[Jeebo]

4. Not in the culture I grew up in...

In the Southern Baptist religion and conservatism I was raised in, the husband was not allowed to enjoy it either. I think both attitudes exist in various subcultures.

Ron

[GulfCoast66]

6. Really?

I guess different churches has different beliefs. I also grew up in a Southern Baptist Church. They taught that sex n marriage was a gift from God and was meant to be enjoyed.

This was in the 70s before the Southern Baptist convention was so politicized. I do not remember any talk about abortion but it has been a long time and I may well have forgotten.