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arely staircase

(12,482 posts) Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:38 PM Jul 2016

Police Lives Matter

I have seen that meme on FB today. It is so tempting to tell them "all lives matter."

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Police Lives Matter (Original Post) arely staircase Jul 2016 OP

You shoot a police officer, you go to prison (assuming you live long enough.) gollygee Jul 2016 #1

there are lots of black men in prison for killing other black men arely staircase Jul 2016 #3

You're right - I need to edit gollygee Jul 2016 #4

That did used to be the case. Misdemeanor murders they were mockingly called. arely staircase Jul 2016 #5

I don't think things have changed nearly as much for white people as POC gollygee Jul 2016 #6

That is what I am saying. If someone shoots black man arely staircase Jul 2016 #8

I am sure the Dallas shooter would have been let off scott free if he had said he was "scared" Ash_F Jul 2016 #2

I still don't understand why they didn't just put him on paid administrative leave. Fozzledick Jul 2016 #7

Such utter total bullshit. People can choose to be a police officer. To be black? Not KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #9

And blacks can choose to be police officers, right? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #19

what's your point? - nt KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #20

More than the citizenry gaspee Jul 2016 #10

"Police" is a mechanism by which society maintains its monoploy on violense. rug Jul 2016 #11

It is interesting the type of person that gets upset when you say Black Lives Matter. Rex Jul 2016 #12

So go ahead and tell them "all lives matter." NaturalHigh Jul 2016 #13

Do it as all lives do matter Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #14

As no holidays are above the other, 'Happy 4th of July' is also exclusionary to Christmas LanternWaste Jul 2016 #17

Actually there is already almost an EXACT equivalent to that... LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #23

In the case of All Lives Matter gaspee Jul 2016 #15

And they only care when white cops get shot by blacks maryellen99 Jul 2016 #16

Not a good time to be a cop yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #18

Statistics to back that assertion? n/t IL Lib Jul 2016 #22

Is there a centuries long pattern of cop killers not being brought to justice ecstatic Jul 2016 #21

gollygee

(22,336 posts)

1. You shoot a police officer, you go to prison (assuming you live long enough.)

Reply to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:40 PM

Jul 2016

A police officer shoots a black person, no one goes to prison.

In fact, no white people generally face consequences for shooting black people. Occasionally, but it seems to be the exception rather than the rule. It's like rape - there are seldom consequences. It's just this side of legal.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)

3. there are lots of black men in prison for killing other black men

Reply to gollygee (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:43 PM

Jul 2016

whether they are guilty is another question.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)

4. You're right - I need to edit

Reply to arely staircase (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:44 PM

Jul 2016

It's almost legal for white people to shoot black people. I will edit my post - thanks for the correction.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)

5. That did used to be the case. Misdemeanor murders they were mockingly called.

Reply to gollygee (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:46 PM

Jul 2016

Things have changef. There is a private prison industry to fed now.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)

6. I don't think things have changed nearly as much for white people as POC

Reply to arely staircase (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:47 PM

Jul 2016

The prison industry is largely fed with people of color.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)

8. That is what I am saying. If someone shoots black man

Reply to gollygee (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:53 PM

Jul 2016

a black man usually goes to prison for it. Whether he is just a usual suspect or truly guilty would be my concern in many cases.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)

2. I am sure the Dallas shooter would have been let off scott free if he had said he was "scared"

Reply to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:40 PM

Jul 2016

Fozzledick

(3,890 posts)

7. I still don't understand why they didn't just put him on paid administrative leave.

Reply to Ash_F (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:48 PM

Jul 2016

Isn't that the standard procedure for racially motivated murders?

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)

9. Such utter total bullshit. People can choose to be a police officer. To be black? Not

Reply to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:55 PM

Jul 2016

so much.

WTF???

Talk about your false equivalence.

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

19. And blacks can choose to be police officers, right?

Reply to KingCharlemagne (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 05:46 PM

Jul 2016

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)

20. what's your point? - nt

Reply to Duckhunter935 (Reply #19)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 12:27 AM

Jul 2016

gaspee

(3,231 posts)

10. More than the citizenry

Reply to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 01:56 PM

Jul 2016

from what I can tell since every time I turn on the TV I am told how wonderful they are and why their deaths are so much worse than anyone else's.

Why, it's almost as if their lives matter *more* than everybody else's.

rug

(82,333 posts)

11. "Police" is a mechanism by which society maintains its monoploy on violense.

Reply to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 02:01 PM

Jul 2016

It is a status not a life.

Rex

(65,616 posts)

12. It is interesting the type of person that gets upset when you say Black Lives Matter.

Reply to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 02:02 PM

Jul 2016

They always seem to be a certain type.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)

13. So go ahead and tell them "all lives matter."

Reply to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 02:05 PM

Jul 2016

Most people aren't offended by that phrase.

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)

14. Do it as all lives do matter

Reply to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 02:09 PM

Jul 2016

None are above any others.

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

17. As no holidays are above the other, 'Happy 4th of July' is also exclusionary to Christmas

Reply to Duckhunter935 (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 03:53 PM

Jul 2016

As 319 million people share my date of birth (as we all share that average number), it would be exclusive and intolerant of my family and friends to wish me a happy birthday. None are above any others.

As no holidays are above the other, 'Happy 4th of July' is also exclusionary to Christmas and Memorial Day. None are above any others.

LeftishBrit

(41,307 posts)

23. Actually there is already almost an EXACT equivalent to that...

Reply to LanternWaste (Reply #17)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:05 AM

Jul 2016

Many people, especially it seems in America, seem to regard saying 'Happy Holidays' or 'Season's Greetings' or mentioning any other holiday than Christmas in December as constituting a 'War on Christmas'! Yet I suspect that many of the same people choose to consider that 'Black Lives Matter' means that other lives don't.

gaspee

(3,231 posts)

15. In the case of All Lives Matter

Reply to arely staircase (Original post)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 02:49 PM

Jul 2016

as a response to Black Lives Matter - it is so fucking disingenuous - the problem is that for far too long, black lives have mattered less than everyone else's on the societal level.

I wish people would start saying Black Lives Matter, Too - but too many people are too god damned stupid to get it. The ones who aren't too stupid to get it and still don't get it are straight up racist - no excuses.