A very simple poll about the election outcome

[NRaleighLiberal]

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	The fix was in - Russia. the "president" was not legitimately elected.
	14 (88%)
	The election outcome was all or mostly due to some other reason
	2 (13%)
	other
	0 (0%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[rzemanfl]

1. Kick for visibility. If you vote, kick or it will sink.

Pence is as illegitimate as Drumpf, whether he was in on it or not. I think he was,

[Laura PourMeADrink]

2. Hey NRL ! Planted some heirlooms last weekend - thinking of you :)

[NRaleighLiberal]

9. Hey there - I've got a few thousand seedlings enjoying our extraordinary warmth...

I am far ahead of my typical time line - could spell some real trouble if frosts hit in a month or so - but...oh well.

small garden this year (relatively speaking) - too busy - lots of weekend travel for speaking events!

[KittyWampus]

3. I don't even understand the options. What does "the fix was in-Russia" mean?

That Russia changed vote totals?

[NRaleighLiberal]

7. for me- combo of AI fake news and some number manipulations.

But no way - absolutely no way - trump was not going to win. would not be allowed any other way.

[KittyWampus]

8. Your poll is invalid then. Russia colluding with Trump and hacking DNC is totally

different than them manipulating numbers in voting machines.

The later is essentially a conspiracy theory. Obama and Clinton BOTH said this didn't happen.

[Amishman]

14. This, Russian stealing of emails was a factor but I don't believe the vote itself was hacked

Way more than Russia involved here.

[NRaleighLiberal]

4. We seem so far to be pretty much in agreement...

how will this all turn out, one wonders???????

[Lifelong Protester]

5. K & R

[2naSalit]

10. K&R

[NRaleighLiberal]

11. kicking - stunning results so far

[ElementaryPenguin]

12. Stolen by treasonous Russian-Trump campaign collusion!

That's how the biggest political upset in US history happened!

[trotsky]

13. There were many factors at play and I don't think we can simply point to a particular one...

and claim "that was it."

[Orsino]

15. Any number of fixes were in.

I doubt that Russian interference was the most important factor, but think it unlikely that we will ever know for sure. From gerrymandeting to dark money to free airtime to voter apathy to voter suppression to sexism to racism, we can point a lot of fingers.

That we can't analyze votes after the fact may be the single biggest guarantor of a Big Money victory. But I dunno, and They don't want me to know.