We CAN'T STOP TRUMP !

[Liberal Insights]

Donald Trump is not going to be stopped by people who haven't even figured out WHY THEY LOST TO HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE !

If you've been waiting for some clarity and insight on that crucial matter, then check out



W h y W e L o s t . o r g, where we don't only track down the CAUSE of our disastrous defeat,
but what liberals and the Democratic Party need to do to get our act together FOR THE FUTURE !

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. I could barely read it - web site designed in about 1996?

[Liberal Insights]

9. "Blowing out someone else's candle won't make yours shine any brighter."

I've just checked to make sure that might site is working fine on 8 different browsers on a Mac desktop, and Windows 10 PC, and my Iphone and there's no sign of any legibility problem.

What, precisely, is YOUR problem?

Anybody else have any problem with reading the site?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. It works, but the design looks like it's 20 years old.

It's hard to read and there's way too much clutter. More people would read it if it used better design principles. There's a lot of good, inexpensive web design software out there.

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. A. didnt lose, won by 4 million votes almost

B. where we did lose it was because of 3rd party voters.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Under our antiquated electoral college system, she lost.

And that's the only measure that matters, unfortunately. So the issue is how you win elections on a state by state basis because that's how the EC works. She lost states she should have won.

[Eliot Rosewater]

4. Nah, Russians hacked the voting machines

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. No, they didn't.

Get real. Seventy-five percent of the country's votes are cast using paper ballots, and even many electronic machines print a ballot so that there's a paper trail. Only five states (Georgia, Delaware, Louisiana, South Carolina and New Jersey) use electronic voting machines that leave no way to audit results after the fact. Those states weren't the problem.

[Liberal Insights]

8. Thanks for an informed and enlightening post V O !

[yodermon]

6. There will *always* be fringe 3rd party voters. If you're strategy is to prevent them , you might

as well fight against gravity.
Fight to keep the margin of victory higher than the fringe vote, *and* higher than their ability to steal it via election fraud.

[Eliot Rosewater]

7. Yay Jill Stein!

[Eliot Rosewater]

12. It is called sarcasm

[Liberal Insights]

13. "Thank you, Lord Jesus, for President Trump!"

Here's an excerpt from my web page, showing what motivated some to LOVE Trump:

"after having suffering stunning and humiliating defeats in recent years over gay marriage and Obamacare, and seeing the eminent threat of the loss of the Supreme Court as a result of the death of Justice Scalia, what drew the conservative white Christians and Roman Catholics to the polls to vote for Donald Trump wasn't that they actually believed that Trump could deliver on his many bombastic claims, summarized in his promise to make America great again, but they were sure, just as we are sure, that Donald Trump and his aggressively conservative white Christian and Roman Catholic vice-presidential partner Mike Pence will deliver on their promise to make America more conservative again, on gay marriage, on abortion, on white privilege, on Christian privilege, on immigration, on public education, on gun rights, on military policy, on policing, on voting rights, on tax cuts for the rich and service cuts for the needy, etc., etc.



I believe that they voted in overwheling numbers for this greedy, lying, irreligious, lecherous, thrice-married, irrational, dangerous candidate because all of the causes that they have been told for years by their conservative Christian leaders are crucial to their "Christian" (i.e conservative) faith are now going to be propelled forwardby a Trump/Pence victory, while they would have been dashed by a Clinton/Kaine victory!"

[Liberal Insights]

14. Why worry? We have FIVE to their TWENTY-FIVE!

While we Democrats thought we were on top of the world with Obama in the White House,
the Republicans were wiping the floor with us nation-wide.

There are now only 5 of the 50 states in which the Democratic Party controls the governor's mansion and BOTH legislative bodies (which is called a party having a "trifecta&quot . The G O P now has complete control of TWENTY FIVE states,



AND the U.S. Presidency, BOTH houses of Congress, and they will very likely gain control of the U.S. Supreme Court for the next generation or two.

But who cares (besides me) ?

[The_Voice_of_Reason]

15. The best thing we can do...

is stop fighting among ourselves, join hands, and fight together.

As the old saying goes, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Let's stop the squabbling, and instead get to work in handing the Republicans and Trump a MASSIVE DEFEAT in 2018. That is the only way to stop Trump...make him a lame duck president two years into his one and only four year term.

[CJ-NJ]

16. Thoughts

I'm new to the site and yours was the first post I read. You touched on some very important points and I appreciate the time and effort you took to put it together. There is one point I did not see addressed, (apologies if I missed it), and it is for me, the most frustrating aspect of the debacle that was Nov 8, 2016. We DID win the popular vote. By a very comfortable margin. To me, this says we are still very clearly the majority. The latest Gallup poll I found shows that most Americans would vote to abolish the Electoral College, though that gap has narrowed considerably. What are your thoughts on what we need to do to see that happen? I understand that a call to action for this now, probably gives the other side more fodder for their 'sore loser' argument, but numbers are numbers. Not negotiable and we WON the numbers. Yet, lost to the minority. The antithesis of the democratic process. That this is the 2nd time since 1888 and both times it was our party that was disenfranchised is extremely disturbing to me.

[PoliticoScott]

17. Electoral college protest article research

I am researching an article about the protest efforts put forth against Donald Trump. I am having trouble locating the original spreadsheet with the contact information of the electors. Does anyone know where to get it?

[fleabiscuit]

18. No help here, but have you tried contacting Putin?

[we can do it]

19. Bullshit