Seven-person juries go into effect today.

[Skinner]

This discussion thread was locked by Skinner (a host of the Announcements group).

By popular demand, we have increased the number of jurors to evaluate community standards alerts from six to seven.

This is a fairly large technical change, and there are likely to be a few glitches. If you encounter any issues that you think the DU Admins need to be aware of, please post them in this thread.

Thank you for your understanding.

Skinner
DU Admin

[hrmjustin]

1. I hope it works out.

[Agschmid]

2. Cool.

I was just on a jury but never got results I assume that means the poster was shown the door.

I'd love to encourage people to sign your jury votes it makes you take a momement and really think about the consequences of your vote. Happy jury duty everyone!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

31. that's what I always do. if I can't come to a decision I'd be glad to put my name to, I opt out.

[Cha]

44. I thought we always get the results..?

[Agschmid]

45. I did eventually get them, someone was dragging their feet.

[Jim Lane]

64. This time it wasn't me, but other times it is.

I usually read a lot of the other posts in the thread, to get the context, and I usually find when I get the results that my comment was the longest.

The result is that I very often get an email about the results as soon as I submit my vote. I was the one holding up the parade.

Apologies in advance if I do that to you. Cultivate patience.

[Agschmid]

67. Cultivating away...

[HereSince1628]

3. Well that eliminates the issue of ties.

That took a rocket scientist. Or not.

[TDale313]

4. Thanks. I think this is a good thing. n/t

[darkangel218]

5. The famous juror #3 will now get replaced with 7!

I like it though, the bigger the jurry, the more likely to come up with a fair decision.

[greatauntoftriplets]

6. I just served on a jury.

It was on your post. Don't know whether to or

[one_voice]

8. hah..me too!

[greatauntoftriplets]

11. I was juror # 4.

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

Mail Message
On Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:19 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Seven-person juries go into effect today.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10133677

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Whining about DU's technical glitches.




j/k Want to see if there are any obvious glitches right off the bat and what better post to send to a 7 member jury than Skinner's announcement thread.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:25 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation:
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh please.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is the most reasonable alert ever! El_Bryanto
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: WTF?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: LOL. LLP
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: hunh... whaaaaaaaaa???! is this one of those glitches or.......?
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation:

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[one_voice]

12. lol..I was juror 1.

[greatauntoftriplets]

13. And "LLP" must have been La Lioness Priyanka.

I wonder who alerted. I bet that Skinner knows!

[one_voice]

16. I bet he does.

[greatauntoftriplets]

18. Unreal that someone would alert that, even as a joke.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

32. oh i think it's hilarious!

Who did it? I'd love to go for coffee or a beer with you! Lololol.

[rhett o rick]

47. I so agree. nm

[mountain grammy]

62. Me too.

[grahamhgreen]

63. ROFL! Confess!!!!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

72. or we will

PUT YOU IN.....THE COMFY CHAIR!
And poke you with THE SOFT PILLOWS!!!


BWAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAA!

[L0oniX]

68. DUzy! Alerting on a Skinner op. Where's MIRT?

[greatauntoftriplets]

71. LOL, I'm on MIRT!

We don't know who alerted. Skinner does, I am certain.

[frylock]

9. yeh, me too..

weird!

[MineralMan]

7. It will be an interesting experiment.

I expect to be called soon on one.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. And the abuses of the jury system will just increase

and yes, that is my view on this.

[DJ13]

22. Swarms

[CFLDem]

76. Yep

[Doctor_J]

14. I pre-emptively vote "Leave" on every post in perpetuity

will this effect the new jury system?

I think my L:H ratio over time is 20:1 or so

[whopis01]

33. It won't effect the new jury system, but the new jury system will effect juries on which you serve

If you were to always vote "Leave", that means votes will only be hidden if 4 of the remaining jurors vote "Hide". In the old jury system that would be 80% of them (4 out of 5). However in the new system it will only be 66.7% (4 out of 6).

So I guess, in a sense, you will be turning the new juries that you participate in into something akin to the old juries which you did not participate in. So perhaps you could consider that being an effect upon the system.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

35. that would be "affect" , not "effect" .

--Your friendly neighborhood grammar nazi.

[VanillaRhapsody]

51. Citizens Alert...Citizens Alert!!!

Blatant Barney Fife and Gomer Pyle reference...

[BlancheSplanchnik]

55. it is??

I bow to Barney Fife! King of Nerddom

[VanillaRhapsody]

56. Yes he is isn't he!

I don't think there ever was anyone dorkier than Barney Fife...


NIIIITAAAAA....WAAAHAAAHAAA NIIIIITA!!!!!

[hootinholler]

52. In the first case, yes that's true

In the second case it is totally correct to say "the new jury system will effect juries on which you serve", but probably doesn't quite mean what the poster thought it did.

You're friendly neighborhood grammar nazi

[BlancheSplanchnik]

54. it's true! ....

I AM Friendly Neighborhood Grammar Nazi.




(case 2: good one!)

[hootinholler]

66. You've always been friendly to me

[BlancheSplanchnik]

70. we grammar nazis are a friendly sort...

Until yourve gon over teh lion.

[riqster]

15. Awesome. Thanks for your dedication to this creation.

It is good to see.

[Orrex]

26. Nice summation of his creation dedication.

[riqster]

30. An elicitation and explanation, in summation.

[muriel_volestrangler]

17. To be clear, 4 to hide, 3 to leave will hide it, yes?

[Skinner]

19. Yes. (nt)

[JustAnotherGen]

20. Excellent!

Thanks!

[LadyHawkAZ]

21. Thanks, Admins!

[cer7711]

23. Makes Sense

No system is perfect (given the injection of people with their complex psychologies) into theoretical constructs/systems governing the adjudication of disputed tone and content, but this certainly seems like a sensible tweak to the existing system: ties are eliminated and the "magic number" of 7 seems just right (neither too large nor too small to render fast, fair verdicts most of the time).

[byronius]

24. More the merrier. I'll feel better whenever I'm dead wrong and stuff.

Maybe.

[tclambert]

25. Guilty! Guilty! Guilty!

I'm ready. Oh, too soon?

[Orrex]

27. Can you make the 7-person jury retroactive?

[BeyondGeography]

28. Alerting

[Sherman A1]

29. I believe

this to be a good thing.

[chillfactor]

34. great decision!..thank you!

[Dawgs]

36. Booooooooooo to all jury systems.

Always hated them, and not just on DU.

[William769]

37. Kick & highly recommended.

[TexasTowelie]

40. Does highly recommended mean that it comes with catnip?

Let me take the next number.

[William769]

42. A shot of Wild Turkey. Will that work?

[pinto]

38. Got it. Thanks.

[KansDem]

39. I don't think I'll fare well with a seven-person jury...

...therefore I should be exempt from any decision regarding my posts.

Hey! I'm a OnePercenter wannabee!

[Scuba]

41. Good call. Thanks Skinner.

[Sissyk]

43. If someone gets a 0-7 Leave

does that increase their alerting time out? Say to....36 hours? lol!

I was just on one!

[Cha]

46. Thanks Skinner, EarlG, and Elad.. Hope it works out, too.

[rhett o rick]

48. I was hoping for the best six of eleven.

Last edited Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:38 AM - Edit history (1)

Just kidding. I appreciate the efforts you and other Admins go to, to make this a great message board. And I believe it is.

[krispos42]

50. Good! N/t

[hootinholler]

53. I was on a jury about 1.5 hours ago and got no results back. n/t

[Skinner]

57. As far as I can tell, the last jury you served on was at 12:43 PM ET.

Were you on another one since then?

[hootinholler]

65. Yes I was

It was when I got on after getting home. The one around noon I was at work.

Unfortunately, I can't remember which trainwreck GD thread it was in.

[calimary]

58. That makes sense. Thanks, Skinner!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

59. I once served on four in one day.

[Oakenshield]

60. Thank you!!

I'm sure this will be an improvement.

[herding cats]

61. Thanks to Elad for all the hard work and the rest of you for caring about our opinions.

I hope it helps settle things down a bit. I also hope I don't end up with hidden posts now! Maybe we'll all try and be a little nicer now that a hide will be easier to get? Hey, a girl can dream...right?

Seriously, thanks for all the hard work coding this into reality. I know it doesn't happen on its own and appreciate the effort.

[kcr]

69. Thank you, Skinner

[Scootaloo]

73. As we bid farewell to the Three Stooges system, let us take a moment to reflect upon the good times.

[hrmjustin]

74. Is it me or are the more posts getting hidden?

[Skinner]

75. It's not you.

In the last day there were 20 alerts, and 13 were hidden. That's a much higher percentage hidden than usual.

What remains to be seen is whether it is a fluke or a trend.

[hrmjustin]

77. Thanks.

I hope it is not a trend.

[nadinbrzezinski]

78. I am willing to bet it is a trend

[hrmjustin]

79. I think so as well but it may level out.

[nadinbrzezinski]

80. Swarms are lovely

So eggshells it is

[mgcgulfcoast]

81. sounds good