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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 10:18 AM Oct 2018

Ivanka And Jared Had To Persuade President To Explicitly Denounce Anti-Semitism After Shooting

Source: Newsweek

President Donald Trump’s statement denouncing anti-Semitism after the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting on Saturday reportedly came at the behest of his daughter Ivanka Trump and son-in-law Jared Kushner, who are Jewish.

“It took the importuning of his Jewish daughter and son-in-law to craft a powerful statement of outrage at anti-Semitism after Saturday’s slaughter at a Pittsburgh synagogue,” The New York Times reported on Sunday.

The president late afternoon Saturday, hours after the morning shooting that killed 11 worshippers, tweeted: “All of America is in mourning over the mass murder of Jewish Americans at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh. We pray for those who perished and their loved ones, and our hearts go out to the brave police officers who sustained serious injuries...”

In a following tweet, the president wrote, “This evil Anti-Semitic attack is an assault on humanity. It will take all of us working together to extract the poison of Anti-Semitism from our world. We must unite to conquer hate.”

By late night Saturday, however, the president began weighing in on the World Series game between the Los Angeles Dodgers and Boston Red Sox, tweeting it was “amazing” how a manager took out the Dodgers’ dominating pitcher and replaced him with “nervous reliever(s).” He also held a campaign rally where he continued his familiar attacks on his opponents, some of whom had been targeted by mail bombs in the previous days.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-anti-semitism-pittsburgh-shooting-1191486?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter

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Ivanka And Jared Had To Persuade President To Explicitly Denounce Anti-Semitism After Shooting (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Oct 2018 OP
"And don't call the shooter a 'very fine person'!" sandensea Oct 2018 #1
WTH are they still working for this anti-Semitic, racist, "Nationalist"? brush Oct 2018 #32
... sandensea Oct 2018 #33
The pursation wasn't very effective The Liberal Lion Oct 2018 #2
he also pondered mercuryblues Oct 2018 #3
pondering if Trump perhaps thought the media -or Obama or Clinton caused the wind and rain riversedge Oct 2018 #15
Another PR piece for Javanka by Maggie Haberman dalton99a Oct 2018 #4
We ALL knew Cheeto didn't write it FakeNoose Oct 2018 #5
Bullshit montanacowboy Oct 2018 #6
Who told the NY Times this? "The couple reportedly urged the president to denounce anti-Semitism" still_one Oct 2018 #7
So, Trump handed Ivanka his phone so she could tweet. bitterross Oct 2018 #8
Good point. nt 7962 Oct 2018 #13
Most likely. Solly Mack Oct 2018 #17
Sadly, I agree. Behind the Aegis Oct 2018 #20
The orange maggot would have not said anything if his daughter was not married to a Jewish man kimbutgar Oct 2018 #9
The man is seriously, mentally ill. slumcamper Oct 2018 #10
Well, it must be just horrible when one of your kids marries like, you know, bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #11
Especially, when she Scarsdale Oct 2018 #12
How can Sheldon Adelson,Steve Wynn and other prominent Jewish businessmen Power 2 the People Oct 2018 #14
The same can be asked of ANY minority. Behind the Aegis Oct 2018 #19
True but I just don't understand how these men don't see what's happening. Power 2 the People Oct 2018 #22
I am sure they do. Behind the Aegis Oct 2018 #23
Thank you for your insightful explanation. Power 2 the People Oct 2018 #34
Bafflingly, there are black Republicans, too. And there are the Log Cabin Republicans, The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #28
Trump 'made plans to visit Pittsburgh this week also at the urging of his daughter and son-in-law' riversedge Oct 2018 #16
When are those two going to get it? They are not safe, nor are their children. nt Hekate Oct 2018 #18
I am glad they did this. Behind the Aegis Oct 2018 #21
He wants to woo the Rob Bowers of the world still. RhodeIslandOne Oct 2018 #24
Kick ck4829 Oct 2018 #25
He read the statement deadpan, with no emotion whatsoever. appleannie1943 Oct 2018 #26
The fact that he needs persuading is pathetic C_U_L8R Oct 2018 #27
Vote Trump off the island. nt NCjack Oct 2018 #29
It was probably something like this: The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #30
and even then it came off as half-assed 0rganism Oct 2018 #31

mercuryblues

(15,377 posts)
3. he also pondered
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 10:23 AM
Oct 2018

about cancelling his KKK rally that night. Now, before you go thinking it was out of respect for those killed, it wasn't. His hair got messed up because he stopped and answered a reporter's questions about the shootings.

riversedge

(73,935 posts)
15. pondering if Trump perhaps thought the media -or Obama or Clinton caused the wind and rain
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 03:08 PM
Oct 2018

to ruin his 'hair'

still_one

(97,074 posts)
7. Who told the NY Times this? "The couple reportedly urged the president to denounce anti-Semitism"
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 11:01 AM
Oct 2018

There is no mystery that trump is a racist, sexist, bigot, but the way this story is written, it sounds right out of the pages of the National Enquirer. Vague sources, "reportedly". relating this.



 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
8. So, Trump handed Ivanka his phone so she could tweet.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 11:45 AM
Oct 2018

That's what I'm getting out of this. Especially if you read the tweets. They don't sound like Shitler at all.

kimbutgar

(23,888 posts)
9. The orange maggot would have not said anything if his daughter was not married to a Jewish man
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 11:46 AM
Oct 2018

The dude blamed Democrats for something one of supporters did sending bombs. Did you expect anything less?

bucolic_frolic

(48,187 posts)
11. Well, it must be just horrible when one of your kids marries like, you know,
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 11:56 AM
Oct 2018

the enemy!!

Poor Donnie Trump.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
12. Especially, when she
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 12:12 PM
Oct 2018

is more "sexually attractive" than the wife. He said that on Howard Stern show. He said "Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your daughter than your wife?" There is a lot more touching between them than there is between tRump and his nekkid model vife.

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
14. How can Sheldon Adelson,Steve Wynn and other prominent Jewish businessmen
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 02:43 PM
Oct 2018

financially support and encourage Trump and the direction of the Republican party? I'm just dumbfounded that men like these don't see what's happening in this country and where it is leading.

Behind the Aegis

(55,022 posts)
19. The same can be asked of ANY minority.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 03:30 PM
Oct 2018

But, it is important to remember, we are not monolith groups. It is somewhat patronizing to expect Jews (or minorities) to perform and act the way the majority (whomever they may be) expects.

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
22. True but I just don't understand how these men don't see what's happening.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 03:40 PM
Oct 2018

They,of all people should know the dangers of antisemitism and the mistake of ignoring it.

They should be pulling all funds from the Republican hate machine. As should all decent human beings of all religions and persuasions.

Behind the Aegis

(55,022 posts)
23. I am sure they do.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 03:54 PM
Oct 2018

Again, we are not monolith and we, too, have our share of callous assholes, just like Christians, the majority. We shouldn't be expected to be even better than any other group. Like others who fall into this category, they are likely selfish and go by the mantra "I got mine, fuck everyone else." I don't know if you read the thread here a few months back about the woman who's husband was deported and she was a proud Asshole supporter (I have gone almost two years without typing his name). They knew what type of person the Asshole was/is and yet....

There have always been members of minorities who either brainwashed into a Stockholm Syndrome type behavior, feel they can protect themselves (maybe a few others) by "going along, to get along", and then there are a few who are just rotten human beings. African-Americans sometimes call such individuals "Uncle Thomas" or "Aunt Jemima." Jews, we go back to one of our greatest disasters and call such enablers, kapos. But, those are usually the extremes. Frankly, many of our brethren on the opposite side feel the exact same way about us.

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
34. Thank you for your insightful explanation.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 10:32 PM
Oct 2018

I really feel that your second paragraph explains it best.

There have always been members of minorities who either brainwashed into a Stockholm Syndrome type behavior, feel they can protect themselves (maybe a few others) by "going along, to get along", and then there are a few who are just rotten human beings. African-Americans sometimes call such individuals "Uncle Thomas" or "Aunt Jemima." Jews, we go back to one of our greatest disasters and call such enablers, kapos. But, those are usually the extremes. Frankly, many of our brethren on the opposite side feel the exact same way about us.

Thank you again for your thoughtful analysis.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(122,320 posts)
28. Bafflingly, there are black Republicans, too. And there are the Log Cabin Republicans,
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:51 PM
Oct 2018

an organization of LGBT people who keep begging to be included in the GOP even though the GOP has made it clear that it wants nothing to do with them and is hell-bent on taking away the civil rights they are finally starting to achieve. There will always be people who place a negative balance on the interests of their group/race/ethnicity versus their personal interests in such issues as tax cuts.

riversedge

(73,935 posts)
16. Trump 'made plans to visit Pittsburgh this week also at the urging of his daughter and son-in-law'
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 03:12 PM
Oct 2018

Looks like the whole family will go to PA



https://www.newsweek.com/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-anti-semitism-pittsburgh-shooting-1191486?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter





The president made plans to visit Pittsburgh this week also at the urging of his daughter and son-in-law, who serve as senior White House advisers, according to The Times.

Behind the Aegis

(55,022 posts)
21. I am glad they did this.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 03:35 PM
Oct 2018

I am also glad, for the most part, people here aren't dragging them over the coals. Look, I don't care for either one of them, but they did something, which is better than nothing, but either way they will lambasted. They shouldn't have had to do anything. A real president would have already known how to respond and how to act. Sadly, he is neither a real president or a descent human being. I also want people to think about the fact that every time something like this happens how people "expect" members of the affected group to "act a certain way". Generally, we don't like it when the other side demands our people act or speak out on their (the other side's) terms.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
24. He wants to woo the Rob Bowers of the world still.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 03:58 PM
Oct 2018

It probably bothers him more that one asshole didn't support him than 65,000,000 good folks.

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
26. He read the statement deadpan, with no emotion whatsoever.
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:31 PM
Oct 2018

It was obvious it was killing him to have to read the words that had been writted for him.

C_U_L8R

(45,920 posts)
27. The fact that he needs persuading is pathetic
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:31 PM
Oct 2018

Trump is a racist and a bigot - unworthy and unfit and a disgrace to all of us

The Velveteen Ocelot

(122,320 posts)
30. It was probably something like this:
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 04:59 PM
Oct 2018

Ivanka: "Dad, you have to issue a statement. It's going to really embarrassing for me and Jared if you don't."

Tiny: "Oh, all right. Whatever. Write something for me. You can do the thoughts and prayers thing."

Ivanka: "And let me use your phone to tweet something about anti-Semitism so it'll look like it's from you."

Tiny: "Do you really have to mention anti-Semitism? Some people might take it the wrong way. I don't want George Soros to think he can keep funding the caravan of terrorists and rapists."

Ivanka: "Dad...!"

0rganism

(24,845 posts)
31. and even then it came off as half-assed
Mon Oct 29, 2018, 05:05 PM
Oct 2018

our president: a surprisingly useless worthless individual who's extremely lucky we don't live in a meritocracy

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