White House negotiators signal concessions on work requirements in debt talks

[brooklynite]

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Source: Politico

White House negotiators are willing to make some concessions to tighten work requirements for federal cash aid as part of a deal to raise the debt ceiling.

The negotiators are narrowing in on possible changes that would further restrict access for low-income Americans to the emergency aid program known as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, according to two people familiar with the talks, who were granted anonymity to discuss internal conversations. Republicans are also pressing the White House team to agree to expanded work requirements for some adults without children receiving food assistance, which Biden didn’t rule out in comments he made to reporters on Wednesday.

An agreement on new restrictions on those federal aid benefits could be a breakthrough on one of the major remaining sticking points in the negotiations to raise the debt limit, which the U.S. risks breaching as early as June 1. But even small concessions on either program would cause a major uproar within the president’s own party, and changes to SNAP in particular could cause a revolt in the Democratic-controlled Senate.

Biden first said publicly that he’s open to some additional restrictions on government aid for low-income Americans while speaking with reporters in Delaware on Sunday. His remarks caught many Democrats on Capitol Hill and even some White House officials off guard — leaving key congressional allies scrambling to try to hold the line against any changes to the requirements, which are anathema to most of their caucus.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/18/debt-limit-negotiators-eye-work-requirement-moves-as-gop-digs-in-00097725

[Omaha Steve]

1. WTF???

[FoxNewsSucks]

2. Well, it's not like billionaires and corporations would tolerate restrictions on them.

This country is disgusting.

Handouts and tax cuts galore for the rich and the corporations. The rest of us get fucked again and again.

[GB_RN]

32. And That's What This Is...

A giveaway to for profit companies who “help” beneficiaries of these social programs (Medicaid, Medicare, etc.,). NPR’s Marketplace did a story on this on Tuesday night (5/16/2023). I recommend checking it out.

[Farmer-Rick]

35. They should put work requirements on Billionaires

Most of them like to call buying stocks and sitting by the pool waiting for their inheritance to kick in as work. But let's face it they don't work. They play at working.

Every billionaire should be required to dig a ditch and work as a Wal-Mart clerk before receiving any tax deductions.

None of this sitting at a desk and telling people what to do crap. They need to do real physical work. Like being a waitress or cleaning their own house, or raising their own children including changing diapers.

[BeyondGeography]

3. That's asking for an expanded primary

[ancianita]

28. Don't believe the hype. Negotiators negotiate. Biden will decide. And he won't compromise.

[Sibelius Fan]

4. Always on the backs of the poor. Always.

[pandr32]

5. No!

We pay our debts and don't hurt struggling people going forward.

[blm]

6. That's just wrong.

[Bayard]

7. No negotiating with terrorists

14th Amendment. Now!

[CountAllVotes]

8. $23/month in food stamps

Over 60 and totally disabled.

Will they take this pittance away from low-income me?

[doc03]

9. Didn't Biden say he would not negotiate? nt

[MarineCombatEngineer]

10. Oh FFS's

don't do this, it's snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

This is fucking stupid, possibly caving to the RWNJ's in Congress.

Pres. Biden, please hold steady.

[cstanleytech]

12. It's odd how Republicans are against aid to the elderly, disabled and children but in favor of

aid to the ultra wealthy and corporations by cutting their taxes.

[AZ8theist]

20. You think that position is "odd"??

It's what the Reich wing in this country has stood for for over 150 years.
There's nothing "odd" about it.........

[cstanleytech]

22. You have a point. nt

[napi21]

13. Why are you all condeming Biden when you don't even know what kind of

restrictions are being discussed? Please wait for more solid information before beating up on Joe.

[JohnSJ]

16. I take Politico with a large grain of salt. Regardless, Congress will decide this, not these

negotiators, and on Lawrence O’Donnell it was reported that 11 Democrats in the Senate sent a letter to the WH that requested not to waste anymore time but exercise the 14th amendment, and 150 republicans in the House who told McCarthy to stop all negotiations

[yaesu]

26. Giving in to any blackmail will cost us the election I have no doubt. Nt

[JohnSJ]

14. It won't be these negotiators who determine the debt ceiling bill, but Congress, and

on Lawrence O’Donnel tonight there are 11 Democrats in the Senate who have sent a letter to the WH asking President Biden to issue the 14th amendment, and at least a 150 republicans in the House demanding McCarthy stop all negotiations

[quakerboy]

15. Did anyone not expect this?

A non-conceeder would have been out front talking up the magic coin or constitutional responsibility ideas.

Laying out options and reassuring us that he wouldnt let them hold the nation hostage.

[truthisfreedom]

17. Joe always seems to know which way the wind blows.

I’m not worried. Go Joe!

[TeamProg]

18. No! Just NO!!!

[swong19104]

19. Never negotiate with terrorists

In fact, reverse negotiate.

When they offer X to raise the debt ceiling, say no. Then offer to create a new income tax bracket for those making $1M/year or more. When they don't agree, drop that to those making $750K/year or more. If they're still resistant, increase the marginal tax rate. Push the marginal tax rate over 100% if need be.

[PortTack]

21. If President Biden does this...we can expect big losses in '24. Surely he knows this is what this is

All about!!

[ancianita]

25. He does. Joe Biden is stringing them along.

[PortTack]

29. I believe you are right...he's done it b4. He watched President Obama do it too!

[LoisB]

23. Give these bastards a room in the inn and next year they will demand you sign over the inn to

them. I would tell them to go negotiate with my Aunt Fanny.

[yaesu]

24. This will be a big mistake and cost Biden the election, hoped they were smarter

Then this. nt

[ancianita]

27. Don't believe the hype. Negotiators negotiate. Biden decides.

[joshdawg]

30. No, no, no!

Dammit, enough! No concessions to the fascist liars on the republican side. Fuck'em!

[nowforever]

31. Negotiations were just that

Going into default is what will cause Biden to lose the election. Exclamtions that making concessions will doom his campaign is troll talk. Negotiating always involves give and take and I trust Biden and his team are well aware of what is and isn't possible. McCarthy and his crazies are being exposed and in the end any measures designed to hurt the disabled and poor will hurt them politically. We just need to get people to vote and not sit and bemoan their circumstances. Intelligent messaging with powerful words will win the fight. Democrats need to fight using both fists and never let up. Get down in the dirt like they do and expose their corrupt and dangerous agendas in a way that amplifies fear...basically their tactics. I trust Biden, Jeffries and Schumer to do just that.

[gab13by13]

33. I was criticized for asking the question

why was President Biden even negotiating with McCarthy in the first place? There was no good outcome from those negotiations that I could see.

The MSM called the negotiations Debt ceiling negotiations when in fact they were spending negotiations that Magats have tied to raising the debt ceiling.

Democrats giving concessions to raise the debt ceiling will become a precedence.

[Marthe48]

34. NO negogiations with terrorists!

NONE!

[mysteryowl]

36. I've never met a person on SNAP or Medicaid that did everything they could

to earn a living. There are reasons people end up needing help. We need to help them, hence the programs.

"Don't negotiate with terrorists" - I concur.

[Jakes Progress]

37. Say it isn't so, Joe. Any deals will cost election.

There are already too many disenchanted, too many disgusted, too many who feel disenfranchised. There will be a wave of the most important Democratic votes that just stay home. It might engender a divisive primary fight.

Joe already went on big TV and said we wouldn't negotiate over the debt ceiling.

Better than admitting that we won't stand up to our word, would be to start courting the republican business leaders who know act a default would do to the country.

[kacekwl]

38. No god damn it. They raised the debt

EVERY fucking time for trump and all these repuke shits without a peep. No

[Omaha Steve]

39. After a review by forum hosts, locking........

Analysis of ongoing negotiations.

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