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LetMyPeopleVote

(155,858 posts)
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 11:12 AM Nov 2023

Trump Gag Order Reinstated In N.Y. Fraud Trial As Appeals Court Upholds Ban On Attacking Court Staff

Source: Forbes

Former President Donald Trump will once again be prohibited from speaking about court staff in the ongoing civil trial determining whether he and his company fraudulently misstated the value of their assets, as a New York appeals court upheld the gag order Thursday, reinstating it after it was temporarily paused.

Read more: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/11/30/trump-gag-order-reinstated-in-ny-fraud-trial-as-appeals-court-upholds-ban-on-attacking-court-staff/?sh=25f5ef7d25ff

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Trump Gag Order Reinstated In N.Y. Fraud Trial As Appeals Court Upholds Ban On Attacking Court Staff (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 OP
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #1
+1 speak easy Nov 2023 #21
And another +1 calimary Nov 2023 #27
AWESOME!!! bluestarone Nov 2023 #2
YESSSSS! 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2023 #3
About time, maybe now the courts will stop coddling trump. republianmushroom Nov 2023 #4
Yay! claudette Nov 2023 #5
Too little,.too late ... aggiesal Nov 2023 #6
Exactly. And since he proved he couldn't control himself once it was put on hold, it should have been Wonder Why Nov 2023 #20
I'll believe it's being enforced RocRizzo55 Nov 2023 #7
New York appeals court reinstates gag order against Donald Trump in civil fraud trial LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #8
One hour and counting.... Captain Zero Nov 2023 #12
He's going to break it WA-03 Democrat Nov 2023 #15
Love the sound of that Steinway SouthernDem4ever Nov 2023 #17
It's wonderful! WA-03 Democrat Nov 2023 #18
I love everything about it--the message most of all. Nt spooky3 Nov 2023 #19
This song is so amazing, I love it so ms liberty Nov 2023 #23
Dump's legalistic maneuvers (or those of his paid legal team) just backfired. Now he's been publicly Martin68 Nov 2023 #9
I gag every time Marthe48 Nov 2023 #10
Whst a relief! ShazzieB Nov 2023 #11
Appealing in 3, 2, 1 ... /nt bucolic_frolic Nov 2023 #13
Everyone else would already be in jail WA-03 Democrat Nov 2023 #14
I agree. It's hard to cheer what should have been an open and shut case SouthernDem4ever Nov 2023 #16
Let's see how he wiggles out of it this time. William769 Nov 2023 #22
Woohoo iluvtennis Nov 2023 #24
So he goes after the judge's wife Maeve Nov 2023 #25
Does this include attacks on the judge's wife? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2023 #26
The court's ruling reinstates the gag order..--ALSO applies t attorneys in the case!!! riversedge Nov 2023 #28
This might be a dumb question WiVoter Nov 2023 #29
Law enforcement is looking for these people LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #30
Can it be total STFU order? Please? CaptainTruth Nov 2023 #31
Did anyone else catch the misstatement in this story? William Gustafson Nov 2023 #32
Till the Orange Asshole spends a night or two in jail it's still "Rules don't apply to Trump". Fuck Trump. OverBurn Nov 2023 #33
Too little, too late n/t ejbr Dec 2023 #34

aggiesal

(9,556 posts)
6. Too little,.too late ...
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 11:27 AM
Nov 2023

He's already posted the name of the judges court assistant.

The order should have never been stayed(?), they should have kept it in place while the appeals went through.

Wonder Why

(4,770 posts)
20. Exactly. And since he proved he couldn't control himself once it was put on hold, it should have been
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 12:59 PM
Nov 2023

re-installed pending the hearing.

If a person charged with felonies can be jailed until the trial, then a person charged with felonies can be gagged if let free until the hearing.

Trump got all the mileage he could out of those statements in that interim time so the Appeals Court is responsible for the hurt they let happen because of their negligence.

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,858 posts)
8. New York appeals court reinstates gag order against Donald Trump in civil fraud trial
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 11:33 AM
Nov 2023

This makes me smile. The judge has announced that the order was reinstated during a break in the NY fraud trial. It will be fun to see how TFG reacts



https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/30/politics/new-york-appeals-court-reinstates-gag-order-against-donald-trump-in-civil-fraud-trial/index.html

A New York appellate court has reinstated a gag order prohibiting former President Donald Trump and attorneys from making public statements about the court staff in the ongoing civil fraud trial.

Judge Arthur Engoron originally issued the order barring Trump from making public statements about court staff after Trump made numerous comments about a clerk, who Trump says is biased against him.

Hundreds of threats against Engoron and a law clerk were made public last week. Engoron’s clerk has received 20-30 calls per day to her personal cell phone and 30-50 messages daily on social media platforms and two personal email addresses, according to court papers.

The appeals court paused the gag order earlier this month, but on Thursday said it should be restored.

“Now, upon reading and filing the papers with respect to the motion, and due deliberation having been had thereon, It is ordered that the motion is denied; the interim relief granted by order of a Justice of this Court, dated November 16, 2023, is hereby vacated,” the latest appellate ruling says.

ms liberty

(9,892 posts)
23. This song is so amazing, I love it so
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 01:39 PM
Nov 2023

There's a version of it with Bruce Hornsby backed by The Blind Boys of Alabama on the Del MCoury CD "Moneyland" that is so beautiful it will make you cry.

Martin68

(24,777 posts)
9. Dump's legalistic maneuvers (or those of his paid legal team) just backfired. Now he's been publicly
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 11:39 AM
Nov 2023

gagged twice.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,275 posts)
14. Everyone else would already be in jail
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 12:33 PM
Nov 2023

makes me sad of all the bad that one person uncheck can do
Reality Winter as proof!

SouthernDem4ever

(6,618 posts)
16. I agree. It's hard to cheer what should have been an open and shut case
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 12:38 PM
Nov 2023

before all this damage was done.

riversedge

(73,490 posts)
28. The court's ruling reinstates the gag order..--ALSO applies t attorneys in the case!!!
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 02:47 PM
Nov 2023



..........The court’s ruling reinstates the gag order against parties in the case, as well as a separate order issued in early November that extended restrictions to attorneys in the case, after Trump’s lawyers raised objections to Engoron’s communications in the courtroom with his clerk and accused the clerk of “co-judging” the case with Engoron.

WiVoter

(1,152 posts)
29. This might be a dumb question
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 04:35 PM
Nov 2023

But is there a chance that they can find out who’s making these threatening calls? These people should be arrested and jailed.

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,858 posts)
30. Law enforcement is looking for these people
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 06:05 PM
Nov 2023

One TFG supporter who threatened Judge Chutkan has been arrested and is being prosecuted. Law enforcment takes these actions seriously

William Gustafson

(369 posts)
32. Did anyone else catch the misstatement in this story?
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 09:37 PM
Nov 2023

..."the ongoing civil trial determining whether he and his company fraudulently misstated the value of their assets,..." .... The Judge already found that they were fraudulent in their misstated assets, now, he is just trying to decide how much he is going to pay.... just found that odd to phrase it that way....

OverBurn

(1,116 posts)
33. Till the Orange Asshole spends a night or two in jail it's still "Rules don't apply to Trump". Fuck Trump.
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 10:33 PM
Nov 2023
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