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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 08:45 PM Jun 2024

George Latimer, a pro-Israel centrist, defeats Rep. Jamaal Bowman in New York Democratic primary

Source: Associated Press

George Latimer, a pro-Israel centrist, defeated U.S. Rep. Jamaal Bowman, of New York, on Tuesday in a Democratic primary that highlighted the party’s deep divisions over the war in Gaza.

With the victory, Latimer has almost certainly ousted one of the most liberal voices in Congress and one of its most outspoken critics of Israel. Bowman has accused Israel of committing genocide in Gaza, where thousands of Palestinians have died in military strikes.

Latimer is a former state legislator who has served as Westchester County executive since 2018.

Bowman had been seeking a third term, representing a district in New York City’s northern suburbs. His defeat is a blow to the party’s progressive wing and a potential cautionary tale for candidates trying to shape their messaging around the Israel-Hamas conflict.


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/bowman-latimer-democratic-primary-congress-new-york-f751616f7f69df439a6080dc6c23e385

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George Latimer, a pro-Israel centrist, defeats Rep. Jamaal Bowman in New York Democratic primary (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2024 OP
Excellent. nycbos Jun 2024 #1
Shouldn't we be booting Republicans? ck4829 Jun 2024 #3
The two are not mutually exclusive. nt Richard D Jun 2024 #8
Bowman initially took the seat from a long-time incumbent Democrat FBaggins Jun 2024 #11
Have you suggested that to the left wing candidates? brooklynite Jun 2024 #14
Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #44
Shows you don' know a thing about George Latimer. He's a Pres Biden Dem Cha Jun 2024 #46
Also US house reps cannot block legislation like Senators can ColinC Jun 2024 #53
Spoken like someone who has no idea what they're talking about. Scrivener7 Jun 2024 #55
What Are You Talking About? Cha Jun 2024 #45
This is a primary iemanja Jun 2024 #50
You know what? ._. Jun 2024 #6
Not I!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2024 #12
I don't care...but neither am I impressed with their performance unless they can take Republican seats away. brooklynite Jun 2024 #15
Really, who would that one be...Elizabeth Warren bottomofthehill Jun 2024 #39
Russia and Israel Bok_Tukalo Jun 2024 #2
Bowman lost because of Bowman and his conspiracy nonsense and JohnSJ Jun 2024 #5
Just like Hillary, I'm sure. Bok_Tukalo Jun 2024 #7
Excuse me? Hillary was running for President, Bowman was running in a congressional JohnSJ Jun 2024 #20
Excellent post. Informative and to the point. oasis Jun 2024 #34
Ty. electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #38
Jill Stein SPOILER! Mahalo for the Reality Check, John! Cha Jun 2024 #49
Bowman Losing has Notihng to do with Hillary.. Cha Jun 2024 #47
Maybe, but I think Bowman mostly lost FalloutShelter Jun 2024 #10
Money is the mother's milk of politics OrangeJoe Jun 2024 #26
You got that right, Fallout DinahMoeHum Jun 2024 #29
Exactly It's obvious to anyone paying attention. Cha Jun 2024 #48
On MSNBC, Kormacki showed how the boundaries of NY16 Deminpenn Jun 2024 #58
China and Iran bottomofthehill Jun 2024 #40
the AP using terms like centrist and liberal is editorializing, not fact based news. nt msongs Jun 2024 #4
It sure is, and demonstrates the disintegration of the media. JohnSJ Jun 2024 #9
Yup!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2024 #13
Agree. mountain grammy Jun 2024 #17
How would you distinguish the two? brooklynite Jun 2024 #19
its not about me, its about what the AP is passing off as opinion. AP could say "self proclaimed leberal" msongs Jun 2024 #21
Sad news, but from what I've read, Bowman Buttoneer Jun 2024 #16
Good news. DavidDvorkin Jun 2024 #18
The money spent by everyone on this primary is disgusting. It needs to stop n/t Cheezoholic Jun 2024 #22
There are approximately 1.4 million Jewish people in NYC, many in the northern suburbs, 4lbs Jun 2024 #23
We Win Either Way HandmaidsTaleUntold Jun 2024 #24
"Antics get attention" they sure do, oasis Jun 2024 #35
So are we going to have a lot more republican disgusting antics to get elected? Disgusting republican voters. Bev54 Jun 2024 #36
Sadly Yes HandmaidsTaleUntold Jun 2024 #37
I thought his performance on stage the other day was the nail in his coffin. padah513 Jun 2024 #25
Congrats to George Latimer, next Rep of NY16 Tarc Jun 2024 #27
His website says he is a progressive angrychair Jun 2024 #28
He WILL support Biden and Harris. Bank it. DinahMoeHum Jun 2024 #30
That's what angrychair Jun 2024 #31
If he turns into a showhorse instead of. . . DinahMoeHum Jun 2024 #32
You have been misled. He is a known quantity. He's a good County Executive, and Scrivener7 Jun 2024 #56
Thanks for that angrychair Jun 2024 #57
Bowman found out JoseBalow Jun 2024 #33
This is Bowman's own fault. Elessar Zappa Jun 2024 #41
Yes... that and many other things. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #43
I'm very happy to hear this good news. (Hillary endorsed Latimer, if I recall.) Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #42
You recall Correctly. Bowman stated that "wasn't a major Cha Jun 2024 #51
It wasn't a major endorsement? Wasn't a major endorsement⁉️ 🤪🤣😂 Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #52
Turns out it was More Major than Cha Jun 2024 #54

FBaggins

(27,914 posts)
11. Bowman initially took the seat from a long-time incumbent Democrat
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 08:58 PM
Jun 2024

Doesn't really have that leg to stand on.

Response to ck4829 (Reply #3)

Scrivener7

(53,666 posts)
55. Spoken like someone who has no idea what they're talking about.
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 03:51 PM
Jun 2024

I don't like his funding, but he's always been a good Democrat. He's currently County Executive and he's been an excellent one.

Your comment is moronic.

._.

(1,197 posts)
6. You know what?
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 08:55 PM
Jun 2024

There is exactly ONE Progressive voice in the US Senate. One. Now I may not agree w/Omar and crew on a lot of things, but I really don't mind a Progressive or two in the House. If you don't mind, of course.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
15. I don't care...but neither am I impressed with their performance unless they can take Republican seats away.
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 09:03 PM
Jun 2024

bottomofthehill

(8,956 posts)
39. Really, who would that one be...Elizabeth Warren
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 04:07 AM
Jun 2024

Elizabeth Warren
Sherrod Brown
Ed Markey
Tammy Baldwin
Raphael Warnock

Oh sorry, you must mean St Bernard of Burlington.

There are plenty of progressive voices in the Senate.

JohnSJ

(97,074 posts)
5. Bowman lost because of Bowman and his conspiracy nonsense and
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 08:54 PM
Jun 2024

voting record.

Bowman questioned that the rapes and murders of Oct 7, and said it was only “propaganda”. Bowman voted against the infrastructure bill and raising the debt limit and other issues.

He did it to himself.


JohnSJ

(97,074 posts)
20. Excuse me? Hillary was running for President, Bowman was running in a congressional
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 09:36 PM
Jun 2024

district

Hillary lost because of several contributing factors. 11days before the general election Comey sent a letter to republicans in Congress saying he was looking at a laptop with possible emails. The MSM then paraded every right wing pundit across their outlet pushing the LIE that the e-mail investigation was being reopened. That was a lie. Late Friday the weekend before the general election Comey quietly came out and said there was nothing new on the laptop and no need to reopen the investigation, but the damage had been done.

At the same time for months previous, the likes of David Sirota, Nina Turner, Cornell West, Briahna Joy Gray, etc. were refusing to vote for Hillary in the general election and encouraging others to do likewise, and enough self-identified progressives took that suggestion EVEN THOUGH THEY KNEW THE SUPREME COURT WAS AT STAKE, by either voting third party or not voting.

It didn’t take much either.

In every swing critical swing Hillary lost by less than 1%, while in those critical swing states Jill Stein received 1% of the vote.

Hillary’s loss had nothing to do with Russia or Israel, but involved the self-identified progressives who refused to vote for Hillary in the general election.

They did the same thing under the Green Party guise in 2000. Again nothing to do with Israel or Russia.

It would be nice if those self-identified progressives voted for President Biden in November along with Democrats down ticket, but I am not sure we can depend on them, 2000 and 2016 demonstrated that.

What I believe we can depend on will be Women, Labor, Democrats, African Americans, Latinos, minorities, and independents.


Cha

(306,463 posts)
47. Bowman Losing has Notihng to do with Hillary..
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 01:49 PM
Jun 2024

Oh except she Endorsed George Latimer!

FalloutShelter

(12,962 posts)
10. Maybe, but I think Bowman mostly lost
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 08:57 PM
Jun 2024

Because he spent more time chasing national attention than he did serving his constituents.

OrangeJoe

(452 posts)
26. Money is the mother's milk of politics
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:31 PM
Jun 2024

AIPAC and allies poured $15 million into a House ! race. They did it to take him out and to send a message to anyone else who criticizes Israel. Plain and simple.

DinahMoeHum

(22,573 posts)
29. You got that right, Fallout
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:33 PM
Jun 2024

I've heard from a number of fellow residents of NY CD-16 about piss-poor constituency service on issues they had.

Too many questionable stances and unforced errors in too short a tenure are what led to Bowman's ouster tonight.

At least my area will once again have a workhorse instead of a showhorse representing us. in Congress.
Just as he did as a state senator and county executive.
As he says: Results, Not Rhetoric

Deminpenn

(16,414 posts)
58. On MSNBC, Kormacki showed how the boundaries of NY16
Thu Jun 27, 2024, 02:47 AM
Jun 2024

has shifted south to encompass more of Westchester county and less of Bowman's Brooklyn base. I'd expect Dem voters in Westchester are more on the centrist/conservative/establishment side. This was a similar scenario to what AIPAC tried with Summer Lee. In the latest redistricting, PA-12's bounderies also shifted south picking up more of conservative Westmoreland County and losing part of Allegheny County. But Lee fended off her AIPAC-funded challenger who tried to paint her as some unhinged radical.

Don't know if candidates can cross-file in NYS, but Bowman might have been able to do that. In the PA primary, Allegheny County DA Zappala was in a close Dem primary against a more progressive DA candidate and lost to him, but Zappala concurrently encouraged Rs to write-in his name on their ballots and ended up winning the R primary setting up a general election rematch of the Dem primary which Zappala then won.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
19. How would you distinguish the two?
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 09:23 PM
Jun 2024

Especially since ideology was a factor in the candidate choice?

msongs

(70,454 posts)
21. its not about me, its about what the AP is passing off as opinion. AP could say "self proclaimed leberal"
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 09:36 PM
Jun 2024

or "self proclaimed centrist" if the candidates were calling themselves that. It's not the job of the AP to distinguish between the 2 by attaching labels. Otherwise they are just 2 dems in a dems primary.

just like "why it matters" is not LBn it's analysis

Buttoneer

(721 posts)
16. Sad news, but from what I've read, Bowman
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 09:06 PM
Jun 2024

sunk his own boat by trying to raise his profile nationally rather than listening to his constituents. fwiw

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
23. There are approximately 1.4 million Jewish people in NYC, many in the northern suburbs,
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 09:46 PM
Jun 2024

especially the 8-county NYC housing the district where Bowman tried to "win"

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rkdbolczr


Yeah, blasting the religion of many of your constituents is probably not a winner.

Bowman might not have been anti-Jewish, but many of the constituents don't see it that way.

To them, anti-Israel = anti-Jewish. Plain and simple.

He would have been better off saying "Eff Netanyahu. Israel needs a better leader."



Bev54

(11,953 posts)
36. So are we going to have a lot more republican disgusting antics to get elected? Disgusting republican voters.
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 11:42 PM
Jun 2024
 
37. Sadly Yes
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 02:07 AM
Jun 2024

Look at MTG. She was an unknown extremist joke. She now is one of the party leaders. A true heavyweight in no time.

padah513

(2,676 posts)
25. I thought his performance on stage the other day was the nail in his coffin.
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:28 PM
Jun 2024

I get hyping up the crowd, but he made himself look foolish.

angrychair

(10,023 posts)
28. His website says he is a progressive
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:32 PM
Jun 2024

News media calls him a centrist. I just hope we don't find out a year into his term he has been having dinners with Republican leadership and switching parties.

Why can't we just have Democrats that's vote like Democrats and support President Biden and VP Harris. That's all I ask. Just worry this guy being a centrist is setting us up later down the road.

DinahMoeHum

(22,573 posts)
30. He WILL support Biden and Harris. Bank it.
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:40 PM
Jun 2024

Hell, back in 2017, he ousted a 2-term MAGA GOP incumbent (Rob Astorino) for county executive.

And the county legislature (17 seats) went from a nominal 9-8 Democrats to a 13-4 Democrats majority.



angrychair

(10,023 posts)
31. That's what
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:44 PM
Jun 2024

Everyone thought of Kyrsten Sinema too in the beginning.
That isn't how it turned out though.

DinahMoeHum

(22,573 posts)
32. If he turns into a showhorse instead of. . .
Tue Jun 25, 2024, 10:46 PM
Jun 2024

the workhorse I've known for years, he'll be out on his ass the next cycle.

Scrivener7

(53,666 posts)
56. You have been misled. He is a known quantity. He's a good County Executive, and
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 04:44 PM
Jun 2024

before that he was in the state legislature and did a good job.

I'm not thrilled that he took so much AIPAC money. But so does Schiff. So does Hakeem Jeffries.

Lattimer is a good Democrat and an effective legislator. He has a decades long track record of being a good Democrat. .

Elessar Zappa

(16,265 posts)
41. This is Bowman's own fault.
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 04:36 AM
Jun 2024

He shot himself in the foot with his borderline antisemitic comments.

Cha

(306,463 posts)
51. You recall Correctly. Bowman stated that "wasn't a major
Wed Jun 26, 2024, 03:21 PM
Jun 2024

endorsement, though. That turned out to be wrong.

Rep. Jamaal Bowman (D-N.Y.) says he isn’t bothered by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s decision to endorse his Democratic primary challenger, Westchester County Executive George Latimer.

“I definitely wouldn’t call it a ‘major endorsement,’ with all due respect,” Bowman told CNN host Laura Coates in a Thursday night interview..

Bowman went on to list some notable endorsements he has received from colleagues in both chambers.

“I mean, we are endorsed by sitting U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren [D-Mass.], sitting U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders [I-Vt.] and the Minority Leader of the Democratic Party, [Rep.] Hakeem Jeffries [D-N.Y.],” he added.


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