5 in 6 Wisconsinites who don't believe in God back Kamala Harris in new battleground poll

[walznotwalls]

Source: NY Post

The poll’s two-way ballot test shows a whopping 82% of likely voters who say they have “no religion” support Harris, compared with 17% behind Trump.

Among respondents who identify as something other than Protestant or Catholic, 55% back the vice president, while 30% support the former president.

Read more: https://nypost.com/2024/09/11/us-news/5-in-6-wisconsinites-who-dont-believe-in-god-back-kamala-harris-in-new-battleground-poll/?utm_campaign=nypost&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

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the right (like Ann Coulter for example) call the left Godless. we're not Godless, we just want to see proof of the existence of a God before we believe in him. we're critical thinkers! send this article to Bill Maher

[Think. Again.]

1. What a weird demographic to single out, we're electing a President...

...not a Pope.

[walznotwalls]

3. Christians should be for Kamala too

Jesus was the world's first democratic socialist

[Think. Again.]

17. I just don't see what anyone's RELIGION has to do with our NON-RELIGIOUS election.

[PedroXimenez]

2. NY Post: Heathens love Harris n/t

[walznotwalls]

4. Ann Coulter ACTUAL book titles about the left: "Godless" and "Demonic"

this has been a narrative on the right for a long time

[onetexan]

6. She reminds me of a demon herself, given the hate she spews is certainly godless. Classic projection LOL

[SWBTATTReg]

14. Yeah...and we're going to listen to this POS after she mocked the son of Tim W., Harris' running mate.

ann c is a scumbag of the lowest order...

[paleotn]

26. She will do anything, ANYTHING for attention.

Her whole grifting shtick is based pandering to the right by being universally hated as a tasteless, grenade thrower by the left. Thus her comment about Walz's son. Just Ann up to her old tricks. She's kind of been forgotten of late, since Dubya really, and that might be impacting her revenue stream.

[paleotn]

25. She was pandering to evangelicals and the religious right. That phrasing is right up their ally

They actually believe the left IS demonic. Literally possessed by demons. and are thus capable of all kinds of horrible things. The spirits of disbelief for atheists and agnostics. A little extra realism to Dana Carvey's old Church Lady character's obsession with......Satan?! They really believe that shit. One of the many threads that lead me out of the faith of my youth. What kind of good, loving, all knowing God just lets his evil alter ego just run roughshod? Or makes Randal and Mortimer Duke like bets with him when it came to poor old Job. Makes no sense.

[slightlv]

21. Yes, but they don't count us. They

automatically sort us into the "devil's bin"... not worthy of any consideration.

[iemanja]

33. You can believe in God and still be a heathen

I don't know whether I believe in God, but I call myself a heathen all the time.

[onetexan]

5. one does not have to have religion to have morals and decency

[walznotwalls]

7. agreed

i would quickly add that you could argue that someone can use religion to hide their own evil...like Bush...and ISIS...not that i'm drawing a comparison...wait, am i? lol

[onetexan]

9. oh yea. I'd add to that organized religion. Case in point: the catholic church. History will show the catholic church

were among the enablers of hitler & the nazis.
Religion can be used to sway and control the weak minded. I'm of the opinion since the mid 60s the WASP controlled GOP discovered this and usurped it to push their agenda onto evangelicals. There are also catholic priests who say the most partisan things in their sermons as well.

[walznotwalls]

11. Father Charles Coughlin was a Nazi anti semite and had tens of millions of listeners

on his radio show (in a country of 130 million back then)

[onetexan]

13. Bingo. I heard about him thru Rachel Maddow's podcast. What evil.

[walznotwalls]

15. yea Maddow also wrote a book about the threat of Nazism infiltrating America

it was a Belarusian Jewish immigrant who broke the Nazi spy ring! i learned it from Maddow's book

[lees1975]

30. A good segment of American conservative Evangelicals have abandoned their morals and decency to support Trump.

So I'm not all that impressed with morals and decency motivated by religion. And I grew up in an Evangelical church. I could tell you stories...

[DJ Synikus Makisimus]

8. The last thing an atheist wants is religious authoritarians in power.

It's not that complicated. Sure, there are stupid and/or racist atheists, just not as many, on a percentage basis, as in the total population. That accounts for the 17%.

[DJ Synikus Makisimus]

10. Oh, and Ann Coulter wants to make you look and click and buy.

She makes a good living off writing and speaking in the promotion of hate and division, and also thrives off your clicks in outrage. She's just another troll of little consequence.

[slightlv]

22. Even we Pagans have seen a horrendous rise in anti-semitism, etc...

among some groups in our path. No religion... or "no religion" is without its detractors. I was actually shocked the first time I saw it; I was far too innocent for far too long, I guess.

[Skittles]

12. 5 in 6 Wisconisinites who live in reality

[Greybnk48]

16. What a WEIRD poll. What next "left handers?" n/t

[maxsolomon]

18. Are "No Religion" and disbelief in a deity the same thing?

Maybe not.

Did you "send this article to Bill Maher"?

[walznotwalls]

19. he's not very active on social media. i'm sure someone will tell him about it

[NNadir]

20. If I believed in a just God, a compassionate God - I'm an atheist - I certainly wouldn't be supporting a crude...

...racist criminal adjudicated rapist for President, but that's just me, I guess.

My atheism has nothing to do with my support for Vice President Harris. My ethics, my education, my love of my country, and my intelligence, such as it is, has everything to do with that support.

[lees1975]

31. And people who claim to be Christian and reflect Christian values have absolutely no reason to be Trump supporters.

It's inexplicable inconsistency.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/09/to-evangelical-trump-supporters-trump.html

[da svenster]

23. i'm disappointed...

i was hoping for 19 out of 20...

[progree]

24. Not all "no religion" or "nones" are atheists or agnostics. Far from it

For example, I know many people, especially in 12 step groups, that are not members or participants of any organized religion, but believe in a prayer-answering favor-dispensing deity, sort of a cosmic loving Santa Claus. Yet most claim to be "spiritual but not religious", a very often dogmatically repeated mantra in most such groups in my experience.

I've read "Skeptical Inquirer" and "Church and State" - a publication of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, and other such for years that go into this at length. They often cite Pew Research polls --

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/who-are-the-nones-how-are-they-defined/

Respondents who choose atheist, agnostic or “nothing in particular” are categorized by Pew Research Center as religiously unaffiliated – a group that the Center and many others have taken to calling “nones.”

Most “nones” describe their religion as “nothing in particular” (63%), while 17% say they are atheist and 20% say they are agnostic.

We use the terms “religiously unaffiliated” and “religious nones” interchangeably. Sometimes we also refer to the “nones” as people who claim “no religion” or people who don’t identify with any religion.

Meanwhile, we use the term “religiously affiliated” for respondents who identify with one of the religions listed above – including a relatively small number who choose “something else” and then write in what it is, as well as those who say they have more than one religion.

Emphasis added.

From the OP:

5 in 6 Wisconsinites who don't believe in God back Kamala Harris in new battleground poll

The poll’s two-way ballot test shows a whopping 82% of likely voters who say they have “no religion” support Harris, compared with 17% behind Trump.

Emphasis added.

Very definitely, having no religion is not the same as not believing in God.

I read the entire article and they didn't make any distinctions, or explain this in any way, or give the exact poll question(s) that were asked, but that's to be expected from the NY Post. I didn't see a link to the poll either, I suppose I could try to find it.

[mwb970]

27. Smart people are liberal and vote Democratic. But we knew that.

[PJMcK]

28. Godless?

There is no god.

If there is, how does anyone know? Where's the evidence? (The old canard that the human eye is so marvelous that it must have been divinely inspired is nonsense. The human eye is extremely limited and can only perceive a narrow band of the electromagnetic spectrum. If the eye is so marvelous, why do so many of us need glasses?)

I don't "believe" in science, either. Science if factual so it doesn't require belief.

If people want to believe in gods, tooth fairies or Santa, I don't care. That's their business. But their beliefs must not impact my life in any way. As Gov. Walz might say, "In America, everyone should mind their own damn business."

[BeyondGeography]

29. God may or may not be a thing, democracy actually is a thing

I propose a poll about which side actually cares about the latter.

[iemanja]

32. Bill Maher is a POS

Who cares what he thinks?