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BumRushDaShow

(143,471 posts)
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 06:21 AM Sep 20

Postmaster general rejects Trump claims about ability to handle mail-in ballots

Source: ABC News

September 19, 2024, 8:49 PM


Postmaster General Louis DeJoy on Thursday said former President Donald Trump and others are "wrong" to question the Postal Service's ability to deliver ballots ahead of the presidential election.

Asked by a reporter, at a virtual preview of the 2024 election, to respond specifically to Trump's claim that the Postal Service might deliberately misplace mail-in ballots, DeJoy responded tersely: "My response is like my response to everyone who says that we're not prepared for the election -- it's that they're wrong," he said. "I don't know that I need to comment any more than that. They're wrong."

At the top of his prepared remarks, DeJoy pushed back on those engaging in rhetoric that undermines the public confidence in the Postal Service, which, DeJoy reminded reporters, had been delivering ballots since 1864.

"We recognize that election officials are under an extreme amount of pressure, and will remain so for at least the next two months," he said. "We also recognize that the American public will become increasingly alarmed if there is ongoing dialogue that continues to question the reliability of the Postal Service for the upcoming elections."


Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/postmaster-general-rejects-trump-claims-ability-handle-mail/story?id=113857181

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tetedur

(1,088 posts)
1. Hey Mr. DeJoy you are going to be thrown under the bus!
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 06:41 AM
Sep 20

Congratulations! Don't be surprised when the mob comes to your door!

live love laugh

(14,499 posts)
3. DeJoy is a Republican so he's lying. I am especially concerned about him claiming.
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 07:49 AM
Sep 20

That the Postal Service is going to go above and beyond and try something new by dropping mail ballots to locations after hours.

What the fuck does after hours mean …. will the places be open? Will the ballots be secured?

usaf-vet

(6,982 posts)
4. He is lying. How do you actually know that your mailed ballot GETS THERE AND GETS COUNTED.... you don't. So he can lie..
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 08:25 AM
Sep 20
.... and we have no reliable way to prove him wrong and hold him accountable.

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
5. In California, we DO, but other parts of the country.... maybe not so much.
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 09:32 AM
Sep 20

When I mail my ballot, CA has a website that one can check to see if the ballot was accepted at the local registrar's office and then later, counted.

However, it was REQUIRED as part of State law to do that when CA's supermajority state legislature passed the law and it was signed by (then) Governor Jerry Brown.

Not sure if RED states have that same ability.

Here is California's

https://california.ballottrax.net/voter/

EDIT:
Not only can you register to get an email when your ballot is fully accepted, you can also get a text on your phone.


EDIT 2: I logged in to that site, after already registering (I did that months ago), and here's what I got. Clean, simple, and easy to read.





So. any time one of those red states say they can't do it, then ask why California, the country's MOST POPULOUS STATE and third largest (by land mass), can do it so easily and quickly while they cannot.

IL Dem

(849 posts)
7. Yeah?
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 12:51 PM
Sep 20

Then why have I had to stop payment on 2 checks in the last 18 months? One of them just last week.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,714 posts)
8. Is this intended to comfort Dems?
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 01:42 PM
Sep 20

I'm very skeptical.

"'It’s a disgrace': This Trump appointee is causing major anxiety in the presidential race"....

"Critics believe DeJoy is deliberately undermining the Postal Service to push a privatization agenda and have been urging Biden to fire him for years. This would be difficult to do, but it is not, as some claim, impossible. In any case, DeJoy's lack of action has led to mail remaining slower than ever and even getting worse."


https://www.alternet.org/dejoy-raffensperger-trump/

BumRushDaShow

(143,471 posts)
9. Sen. Jon Ossoff (D-GA) has drafted a bill to change the law
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 01:49 PM
Sep 20

so that the Postmaster General position becomes a "Senate-confirmed" one under the authority of the President and not solely subject to the Postal Board of Governors for the decision to remove.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,714 posts)
10. Republicans admit via their leadership they can't win being honest.
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 02:00 PM
Sep 20

And that means they need every "tool" in the shed. This is all intolerable in a democracy. McConnell sounds rational on a few things - like the nation's budget. But he pulls out all the stops to rig our courts to save their unpopular agenda.

This wasn't the case 25 years ago. Most likely the rise of right wing media in the "information age" is to blame.

Is toxic masculinity driving our discourse? It seems so. Ossoff is a far cry from that. I wish him good luck overcoming the intransigence of today's GQP.

BumRushDaShow

(143,471 posts)
11. "This wasn't the case 25 years ago."
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 02:11 PM
Sep 20

It was started 30 years ago, thanks to Newt Gingrich.

I post the below periodically when it applies -

The Man Who Broke Politics

Newt Gingrich turned partisan battles into bloodsport, wrecked Congress, and paved the way for Trump’s rise. Now he’s reveling in his achievements.

Story by McKay Coppins
November 2018 Issue

Updated on October 17, 2018

[snip]

On June 24, 1978, Gingrich stood to address a gathering of College Republicans at a Holiday Inn near the Atlanta airport. It was a natural audience for him. At 35, he was more youthful-looking than the average congressional candidate, with fashionably robust sideburns and a cool-professor charisma that had made him one of the more popular faculty members at West Georgia College. But Gingrich had not come to deliver an academic lecture to the young activists before him—he had come to foment revolution.

“One of the great problems we have in the Republican Party is that we don’t encourage you to be nasty,” he told the group. “We encourage you to be neat, obedient, and loyal, and faithful, and all those Boy Scout words, which would be great around the campfire but are lousy in politics.” For their party to succeed, Gingrich went on, the next generation of Republicans would have to learn to “raise hell,” to stop being so “nice,” to realize that politics was, above all, a cutthroat “war for power”—and to start acting like it.

The speech received little attention at the time. Gingrich was, after all, an obscure, untenured professor whose political experience consisted of two failed congressional bids. But when, a few months later, he was finally elected to the House of Representatives on his third try, he went to Washington a man obsessed with becoming the kind of leader he had described that day in Atlanta. The GOP was then at its lowest point in modern history. Scores of Republican lawmakers had been wiped out in the aftermath of Watergate, and those who’d survived seemed, to Gingrich, sadly resigned to a “permanent minority” mind-set. “It was like death,” he recalls of the mood in the caucus. “They were morally and psychologically shattered.”

But Gingrich had a plan. The way he saw it, Republicans would never be able to take back the House as long as they kept compromising with the Democrats out of some high-minded civic desire to keep congressional business humming along. His strategy was to blow up the bipartisan coalitions that were essential to legislating, and then seize on the resulting dysfunction to wage a populist crusade against the institution of Congress itself. “His idea,” says Norm Ornstein, a political scientist who knew Gingrich at the time, “was to build toward a national election where people were so disgusted by Washington and the way it was operating that they would throw the ins out and bring the outs in.”

[snip]

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/newt-gingrich-says-youre-welcome/570832/

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,714 posts)
12. What the Hell does Gingrich stand for?
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 02:25 PM
Sep 20

I see him as a walking demolition machine. It would seem being a chaos agent is his greatest achievement.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,714 posts)
14. I saw clips of him on one of the late night shows.
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 04:16 PM
Sep 20

He was going after Harris.

This "article" by Fox News Staff is symptomatic of his efforts. I can't tell if it's an advertisement or news.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/newt-gingrich-sounds-off-kamala-153043519.html

BumRushDaShow

(143,471 posts)
16. Yeah what is funny
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 05:01 PM
Sep 20

when I was looking for anything recent from him, google was coming up with almost all Faux Snooze articles.

He still fancies himself this brilliant history professor and he's nothing more than a gaslighting blowhard.

Scruffy1

(3,419 posts)
15. Kind of tough to do.
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 04:52 PM
Sep 20

Being that the USPS has not been a part of the government since 1973 when it was split off under Nixon.

BumRushDaShow

(143,471 posts)
18. Congress can do anything they want
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 06:55 PM
Sep 20

if they have the votes.

Article I

Section 1.

All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

(snip)

Section 8.

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

(snip)

To establish post offices and post roads;

(snip)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei

onenote

(44,772 posts)
19. For the record, the USPS is still a part of the US government. It is a federal agency.
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 03:33 PM
Sep 21

It isn't a cabinet level agency anymore, but it's still a federal government agency.

See 39 US Code 201:https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/39/201
"There is established, as an independent establishment of the executive branch of the Government of the United States, the United States Postal Service."

Igel

(36,187 posts)
17. NPR pushed the same conclusion but with a different premise today.
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 06:28 PM
Sep 20

Progressive groups questioning whether cost-cutting allowed ballots to be returned, and saying to mail the ballots at least a week before election day.

Same conclusion: The USPS cannot be trusted to deliver all the ballots that are properly cast and mailed before the deadline.

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