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BumRushDaShow

(143,394 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 05:49 AM Sep 21

Court takes "naked ballots" case over Pennsylvania mail-in voting

Source: CBS News/AP

September 20, 2024 / 8:13 PM EDT


Pennsylvania's highest court on Friday said it will consider whether counties must accept provisional ballots cast on election day at polling places by voters whose mail-in ballots lacked secrecy envelopes or were rejected for other flaws.

It could determine the fate of thousands of votes that could otherwise be canceled in the Nov. 5 election, when Pennsylvania is considered a critical state in the presidential contest.

The Supreme Court took up the appeal from a Commonwealth Court decision just two weeks ago that said Butler County had to count provisional ballots from two voters who had received automatic emails before the April primary telling them their mail-in votes had been rejected because they were so-called "naked ballots" that weren't enclosed in the provided secrecy envelope.

When the two voters tried to cast provisional ballots, elections officials in Republican-majority Butler County rejected them, prompting a lawsuit. The voters lost in Butler County court but on Sept. 5 a panel of Commonwealth Court judges reversed, saying the two votes must be counted.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/court-naked-ballots-pennsylvania-mail-in-voting/

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Court takes "naked ballots" case over Pennsylvania mail-in voting (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 21 OP
I thought that was why we had "Provisional Ballots" in Pennsylvania FakeNoose Sep 21 #1
"If the state is trashing the Provisional Ballots, then why would anybody bother?" BumRushDaShow Sep 21 #2
OK thanks FakeNoose Sep 21 #3

FakeNoose

(35,891 posts)
1. I thought that was why we had "Provisional Ballots" in Pennsylvania
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 02:37 PM
Sep 21

... so that nobody gets turned away from the polls on election day. If something goes wrong with a mailed ballot - OR if someone discovers on election day that their registration got deleted - they can still vote if they show the proper ID.

Those votes get held out in a special Provisional container that requires follow-up investigation. (The ID needs to be checked out, etc.) But the point is that the voter still gets to vote on election day.

If the state is trashing the Provisional Ballots, then why would anybody bother?

BumRushDaShow

(143,394 posts)
2. "If the state is trashing the Provisional Ballots, then why would anybody bother?"
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 02:46 PM
Sep 21

That was a rogue county doing that and a rogue Commonwealth Court ruling (sounds like a ruling from the criminal judge with a criminal husband) because "provisional ballots" are federal law (per the "Help America Vote Act" ).

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