Trump's shutdown push falls flat with Republicans

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: The Hill

09/21/24 6:00 AM ET


House Republicans are overwhelmingly dismissing former President Trump’s calls for a government shutdown in the absence of a proof-of-citizenship voting bill being signed into law, a public break from the GOP presidential nominee in the lead-up to the November election.

A group of Republicans this week rejected a bill that combined a six-month continuing resolution (CR) with the Trump-backed voting bill, tanking the legislation in a move that thwarted Speaker Mike Johnson’s (R-La.) funding strategy.

Now, as the Speaker prepares to defy Trump’s wishes and stage a vote on a “clean” three-month stopgap, rank-and-file Republicans are expected to back it — balking at the former president’s request. Republicans almost universally support the voting bill, but they say pushing the issue so intensely that it results in a shutdown would backfire on the party.

“Everybody wants to go home and campaign, and there are some, particularly that want to go home and campaign, because they’re in really tough races,” Rep. Gary Palmer (R-Ala.) said. The Alabama Republican, who currently serves as policy chair of the House GOP conference, also pointed to national security concerns. “A government shutdown would embolden our enemies, further undermine our reliability and respect among our allies,” Palmer said. “So, I don’t think a shutdown is good for anybody.”

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4891309-trump-shutdown-voting-government-funding-house-republicans/

[Irish_Dem]

1. Is Trump losing some of this power over Congress?

[FalloutShelter]

4. Surprise...

Guess who no longer has the ring of power?
Run home and try to preserve your jobs, Orcs.

[Irish_Dem]

5. Finally the GOP gets a backbone.

If only to save their own necks.

[FalloutShelter]

12. The closer they get to the election,

The more they feel the flame of our abject loathing and disgust for them.

For the Rethugs right now, it’s every man for himself in the scramble to preserve their own hide.

[Irish_Dem]

21. Rats leaving a sinking ship.

[Cosmocat]

15. Right

Babbled something about national security, but no mention of good governance or what is in the best interests if their constituents.

ALWAYS looking at thing based on politics.

[Irish_Dem]

23. GOP is about money and power for themselves and rich donors.

Governance for the public good is a foreign concept to them.

[demosincebirth]

38. A baby backbone

[Irish_Dem]

39. A backbone only for themselves. Never for the country or constituents.

[paleotn]

8. Realpolitik v Trump

Realpolitik wins.. No one want's to lose their seats because Donny is panicking. Plus, Trump doesn't have the same panache with many of their voters as he once had. He's old, tired, boring and, in my mind, on the way out.

[Irish_Dem]

11. The worm is turning. Trump is losing his power.

[PedroXimenez]

30. maybe in their mind too

that Trump is on his way out...

[orangecrush]

28. Expect freakout

This should be amusing

[agingdem]

34. the House cretins are sensing a Trump loss in November...

and they don't want to go down with him...what the idiots don't get it is they've spent years marching in lock-step, acting as Donnie's surrogates, doling out revenge and retribution instead of legislation....and the MAGA House biggest fuck-up of them all... cratering the immigration bill on Trump's command...Trump saw a border gone wild (it isn't) as a truncheon to beat Biden (and now Kamala) with, but it's all come back to bite Trump on his fat flatulent ass...Springfield, Ohio..

and if it isn't obvious to Mike Johnson and the Trump MAGA zombies, allowing the government to shut down so close to the election is political suicide...that said, the ridiculously named Freedom Caucus lemmings are so tethered to their leader they're more than willing to follow a demented self absorbed hate-filled psychopath over a cliff...

[bucolic_frolic]

2. Did Trump simply copy Newt, or is Newt really running things in the GOP? /nt

[Midnight Writer]

3. The King's armor is developing cracks. His Knights are revolting and fighting among themselves.

The MAGA Kingdom is falling.

[displacedvermoter]

6. Jared Golden didn't reject it, though.

[peppertree]

25. He must be afraid of the Trumpkins in his district

The guys who are not unlike Dolores Claiborne's husband in the Stephen King book.

[displacedvermoter]

27. I imagine

but this is a pretty fundamental Democratic issue he was voting on, especially because 14 Republicans saw fit to vote against this bill as critical action to keep the government running while battling open racism and election trouble making.

We always say we need to understand the problems faced by the Goldens of our Caucus. Again, this is a pretty fundamental D vote. This is true even if you want to make the case that "it wasn't going to pass anyway".

[peppertree]

32. Absolutely.

The Sinnerma caucus, I like to call them.

[NCDem47]

7. Trump equals Worst. Political. Instincts. Ever.

A shutdown? Just before elections?

Just dumb. But again. It's all about him.

[Bengus81]

9. LOL...they now worry more about not being re-elected over something Trump WANTS.

[Pinback]

31. And no mention of the effects on their constituents.

Because who gives a shit about the common rabble whose votes are the only reason these jerks are in power in the first place.

[dickthegrouch]

42. Or even the common employees?

Government workers are the next to suffer from no paychecks. Then Social Security recipients. Then government funded programs, all of which probably go into (more) debt as a result.
Pure stupidity. But will the press make that point in advance and assist the people about to be harmed in those ways in fighting it too?

[Pinback]

46. All great points.

[Septua]

10. "Everybody wants to go home and campaign...

..there are some...in really tough races..."

MAGA Repugs never admit it but they know the Trump and Vance duo negative campaign rhetoric isn't winning friends or influencing people. Add to that the successful messaging from the Harris campaign, coupled with the apparent success of targeted campaign ads and their political future is looking bleak.

[dchill]

13. An interesting turn of events.

A portent, perhaps?

[Wounded Bear]

14. You can only smack yourself in the face with a rock so many times...

before you start to realize, "Ow, that hurts!"

[jvill]

16. "Illegal voting is going to destroy the election. But not if it gets bad press. So let's just forget about it."

[Clouds Passing]

17. That's the best answer I have seen so far!

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

18. He's got no juice!

[mahina]

19. "Would embolden our enemies"

Do We call them our enemies? NO. We want to persuade them, we want to change their minds.

Trump the other hand, I could see. He and his puppetmasters are enemies indeed...

[displacedvermoter]

35. Don't wish to defend him but I think he was

talking about Russia, China, etc. At least in this case, though yeah, they do hate people who disagree with them, as a group.

[slightlv]

47. If so, then that was one of the worst worded sentences

I have ever read! My take on it was them calling us, Democrats, enemies, too. Maybe it's that they've called us that so many times through the decade that they've impressed on us that the two political parties are actually enemies, rather than just partisan politics.

[mahina]

48. oh gosh thank you. Maybe I did misunderstand. If so that is a big relief. Thank you.

[Wonder Why]

20. Because all he cares about is his winning (alternative is prison), not their winning. Thay are just fodder to him.

[Wednesdays]

22. "...a shutdown would backfire on the party."

Duhh...ya think?


But yeah, go ahead Goopers and shoot yourselves in the foot. Again.

[h2ebits]

24. This is a really bad plan also. . . .

A three month stop gap plan will mean that the government will shut down January 1st. Am I correct in my thinking? That means that the transfer of power will not occur prior to the shutdown.

What then? The House will still be in the control of the Republicans since new members will not have been sworn in. . . .

Is this the new plan to overthrow the government?

Edited to add: Also, if I am thinking correctly, the federal government uses a fiscal year for accounting that runs from October 1 through September 30 the following year.

What an absolute nightmare for our country!

[Metaphorical]

43. Constitutional requirements remain in force

What a shutdown does typically is hamstring's the executive branch more than anything. It's not going to stop the transfer of power, but it means that setting up and paying the executive appointees becomes difficult. Congress is still required to meet, and as they are funded under a separate agreement, they aren't impacted.

[h2ebits]

45. Thank you for the clarification.

Like millions of us, I carry around bits and pieces of information that may or may not come in handy someday.

Thanks for clarifying some of mine that I expressed in my original post.

[AllaN01Bear]

26. after 30 years of this nonsense , is it finaly coming to an end?

[cilla4progress]

29. My thought exactly

[cstanleytech]

33. They know that it would be a virtual political death sentence for a number of careers of those in office.

[Warpy]

36. Throw a grenade into a room

then sashay in and put a picture back on its nail and announce "See? Only I can fix this!:

This is TFG in a nutshell and I do mean NUT. Please pass this along, his act never changes and if GOP family and friends are too stiff necked to vote for Harris, tell them to vote for Mickey Mouse or Ebenezer Scrooge or anyone but TFG.

Some day, some populist blowhard might get unquestioning support from the military, the cops, and the preachers and turn into a unitary executive, AKA dictator. Just don't let it be HIM.

Pass it on.

[Emile]

37. So they're not in the mood to selfdistruct.

[Bayard]

40. "embolden our enemies"

Enemies? A very telling statement on what they think of Dems.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

41. Tough luck Donny boy

[LetMyPeopleVote]

44. TFG's shutdown in 2018 was a complete flop

A shutdown just before an election is a really dumb idea