Trump's shutdown push falls flat with Republicans
Source: The Hill
09/21/24 6:00 AM ET
House Republicans are overwhelmingly dismissing former President Trumps calls for a government shutdown in the absence of a proof-of-citizenship voting bill being signed into law, a public break from the GOP presidential nominee in the lead-up to the November election.
A group of Republicans this week rejected a bill that combined a six-month continuing resolution (CR) with the Trump-backed voting bill, tanking the legislation in a move that thwarted Speaker Mike Johnsons (R-La.) funding strategy.
Now, as the Speaker prepares to defy Trumps wishes and stage a vote on a clean three-month stopgap, rank-and-file Republicans are expected to back it balking at the former presidents request. Republicans almost universally support the voting bill, but they say pushing the issue so intensely that it results in a shutdown would backfire on the party.
Everybody wants to go home and campaign, and there are some, particularly that want to go home and campaign, because theyre in really tough races, Rep. Gary Palmer (R-Ala.) said. The Alabama Republican, who currently serves as policy chair of the House GOP conference, also pointed to national security concerns. A government shutdown would embolden our enemies, further undermine our reliability and respect among our allies, Palmer said. So, I dont think a shutdown is good for anybody.
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4891309-trump-shutdown-voting-government-funding-house-republicans/
Irish_Dem
(58,865 posts)FalloutShelter
(12,801 posts)Guess who no longer has the ring of power?
Run home and try to preserve your jobs, Orcs.
Irish_Dem
(58,865 posts)If only to save their own necks.
FalloutShelter
(12,801 posts)The more they feel the flame of our abject loathing and disgust for them.
For the Rethugs right now, its every man for himself in the scramble to preserve their own hide.
Irish_Dem
(58,865 posts)Babbled something about national security, but no mention of good governance or what is in the best interests if their constituents.
ALWAYS looking at thing based on politics.
Irish_Dem
(58,865 posts)Governance for the public good is a foreign concept to them.
demosincebirth
(12,740 posts)Irish_Dem
(58,865 posts)paleotn
(19,376 posts)Realpolitik wins.. No one want's to lose their seats because Donny is panicking. Plus, Trump doesn't have the same panache with many of their voters as he once had. He's old, tired, boring and, in my mind, on the way out.
Irish_Dem
(58,865 posts)PedroXimenez
(613 posts)that Trump is on his way out...
orangecrush
(22,064 posts)This should be amusing
agingdem
(8,541 posts)and they don't want to go down with him...what the idiots don't get it is they've spent years marching in lock-step, acting as Donnie's surrogates, doling out revenge and retribution instead of legislation....and the MAGA House biggest fuck-up of them all... cratering the immigration bill on Trump's command...Trump saw a border gone wild (it isn't) as a truncheon to beat Biden (and now Kamala) with, but it's all come back to bite Trump on his fat flatulent ass...Springfield, Ohio..
and if it isn't obvious to Mike Johnson and the Trump MAGA zombies, allowing the government to shut down so close to the election is political suicide...that said, the ridiculously named Freedom Caucus lemmings are so tethered to their leader they're more than willing to follow a demented self absorbed hate-filled psychopath over a cliff...
bucolic_frolic
(47,354 posts)Midnight Writer
(23,074 posts)The MAGA Kingdom is falling.
displacedvermoter
(3,150 posts)peppertree
(22,850 posts)The guys who are not unlike Dolores Claiborne's husband in the Stephen King book.
displacedvermoter
(3,150 posts)but this is a pretty fundamental Democratic issue he was voting on, especially because 14 Republicans saw fit to vote against this bill as critical action to keep the government running while battling open racism and election trouble making.
We always say we need to understand the problems faced by the Goldens of our Caucus. Again, this is a pretty fundamental D vote. This is true even if you want to make the case that "it wasn't going to pass anyway".
peppertree
(22,850 posts)The Sinnerma caucus, I like to call them.
NCDem47
(2,588 posts)A shutdown? Just before elections?
Just dumb. But again. It's all about him.
Bengus81
(7,430 posts)Pinback
(12,902 posts)Because who gives a shit about the common rabble whose votes are the only reason these jerks are in power in the first place.
dickthegrouch
(3,570 posts)Government workers are the next to suffer from no paychecks. Then Social Security recipients. Then government funded programs, all of which probably go into (more) debt as a result.
Pure stupidity. But will the press make that point in advance and assist the people about to be harmed in those ways in fighting it too?
Pinback
(12,902 posts)Septua
(2,596 posts)..there are some...in really tough races..."
MAGA Repugs never admit it but they know the Trump and Vance duo negative campaign rhetoric isn't winning friends or influencing people. Add to that the successful messaging from the Harris campaign, coupled with the apparent success of targeted campaign ads and their political future is looking bleak.
dchill
(40,660 posts)A portent, perhaps?
Wounded Bear
(60,767 posts)before you start to realize, "Ow, that hurts!"
jvill
(387 posts)Clouds Passing
(2,568 posts)IrishAfricanAmerican
(4,182 posts)mahina
(18,989 posts)Do We call them our enemies? NO. We want to persuade them, we want to change their minds.
Trump the other hand, I could see. He and his puppetmasters are enemies indeed...
displacedvermoter
(3,150 posts)talking about Russia, China, etc. At least in this case, though yeah, they do hate people who disagree with them, as a group.
slightlv
(4,402 posts)I have ever read! My take on it was them calling us, Democrats, enemies, too. Maybe it's that they've called us that so many times through the decade that they've impressed on us that the two political parties are actually enemies, rather than just partisan politics.
mahina
(18,989 posts)Wonder Why
(4,658 posts)Wednesdays
(20,315 posts)Duhh...ya think?
But yeah, go ahead Goopers and shoot yourselves in the foot. Again.
h2ebits
(773 posts)A three month stop gap plan will mean that the government will shut down January 1st. Am I correct in my thinking? That means that the transfer of power will not occur prior to the shutdown.
What then? The House will still be in the control of the Republicans since new members will not have been sworn in. . . .
Is this the new plan to overthrow the government?
Edited to add: Also, if I am thinking correctly, the federal government uses a fiscal year for accounting that runs from October 1 through September 30 the following year.
What an absolute nightmare for our country!
Metaphorical
(2,338 posts)What a shutdown does typically is hamstring's the executive branch more than anything. It's not going to stop the transfer of power, but it means that setting up and paying the executive appointees becomes difficult. Congress is still required to meet, and as they are funded under a separate agreement, they aren't impacted.
h2ebits
(773 posts)Like millions of us, I carry around bits and pieces of information that may or may not come in handy someday.
Thanks for clarifying some of mine that I expressed in my original post.
AllaN01Bear
(23,208 posts)cilla4progress
(25,968 posts)cstanleytech
(27,129 posts)Warpy
(113,131 posts)then sashay in and put a picture back on its nail and announce "See? Only I can fix this!:
This is TFG in a nutshell and I do mean NUT. Please pass this along, his act never changes and if GOP family and friends are too stiff necked to vote for Harris, tell them to vote for Mickey Mouse or Ebenezer Scrooge or anyone but TFG.
Some day, some populist blowhard might get unquestioning support from the military, the cops, and the preachers and turn into a unitary executive, AKA dictator. Just don't let it be HIM.
Pass it on.
Emile
(30,365 posts)Bayard
(24,145 posts)Enemies? A very telling statement on what they think of Dems.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(116,019 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(155,138 posts)A shutdown just before an election is a really dumb idea