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Behind the Aegis

(54,897 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 03:17 PM Oct 7

Anti-Israel protesters pitch encampment outside Jewish Democrat's Ohio home

Source: Associated Press

Masked anti-Israel demonstrators escalated their harassment of a Jewish congressman on the eve of Monday’s anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack, pitching an encampment outside Ohio Democratic Rep. Greg Landsman ’s Cincinnati residence.

Landsman said Monday that the protesters arrived outside his home early Sunday. By evening, they set up tents, cots and sleeping bags in the road and spent the night harassing him and his family members, forcing them to secure a police escort in order to enter and exit safely, the congressman said.

“On the eve of the one-year anniversary of the October 7th terror attacks, when Jews were brutally murdered and kidnapped, these people came to the home of a Jewish family at night, dressed in all black and fully masked," Landsman said in a statement. He said that he and his daughter would be forced to navigate the encampment in order to attend an Oct. 7 service later Monday.

The group, Midwest Direct Action 4 Pali!, shared a video of the demonstration on Instagram. The video showed masked participants in black marching down the street in front of Landsman's home. Their faces were obscured as they carried white bundles that resembled shrouded bodies and brandished banners representing the numbers in the death toll. The group remained on site Monday, Landman's office said.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/anti-israel-protesters-pitch-encampment-outside-jewish-democrats-ohio-home/ar-AA1rQbkP?ocid=BingNewsVerp




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Anti-Israel protesters pitch encampment outside Jewish Democrat's Ohio home (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Oct 7 OP
Antisemites target and harass EllieBC Oct 7 #1
Anti-Semitic protesters pitch encampment outside Jewish Democrat's Ohio home sarisataka Oct 7 #2
Maybe they'll set their arms on fire JoseBalow Oct 7 #3
Malignant idiots begging for attention. Pathetic. Beastly Boy Oct 7 #4
Fucking assholes. Why aren't they protesting at Mar-a-Lago? Trump wants Isreal to nuke Gaza. SunSeeker Oct 7 #5
It is constant intimidation over everything. Bev54 Oct 7 #6
No contribution to society calvito Oct 7 #7
Disgusting anti-Semites target American Democratic Congressman for harassment Hekate Oct 7 #8
Their faces are covered because they know they are doing something wrong - TBF Oct 7 #9
Fucking assholes. yardwork Oct 7 #10
No one should ever harass any elected official outside of their home Polybius Oct 7 #11
I completely agree. N/T LisaM Oct 7 #12
They have the right to protest supporters of the slaughter onandup Oct 7 #13
Name one Congress person they are doing this to sarisataka Oct 7 #14
Are you seriously suggesting onandup Oct 8 #16
Does that mean you can't name one Congressperson who doesn't "happen" to be Jewish sarisataka Oct 8 #17
And here we go again. MarineCombatEngineer Oct 8 #18
It's easy to justify harassing Jewish senators at their homes AZSkiffyGeek Oct 9 #30
I can name one who was the target of a protest at his home onandup Oct 8 #20
Link it and let me decide sarisataka Oct 8 #21
Of course it's factual he is Jewish onandup Oct 8 #23
Such ignorance onandup Israeli Oct 9 #24
Not surprising... AZSkiffyGeek Oct 9 #28
My guess was correct, that would be the incident you were referring to sarisataka Oct 9 #25
Nice deflection, but the question remains, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 8 #19
They don't. He has nothing to say to what Israel does...he is being targeted because of his Demsrule86 Oct 12 #42
He's a strong supporter of Israel onandup Oct 12 #44
Bunch of right wingers defending them on twitter. Disgusting. LeftInTX Oct 7 #15
They'll have defenders here as well. Dr. Strange Oct 8 #22
The ones cheering on the Pro-Hamas "By Any Means Necessary" celebrations on 10/7 nt AZSkiffyGeek Oct 9 #29
That one was a really offensive thread. MarineCombatEngineer Oct 9 #31
I read it Israeli Oct 9 #32
Very nicely staged, kids, I'm sure the war will stop now Walleye Oct 9 #26
Why isn't this a hate crime or ethnic intimidation? MichMan Oct 9 #27
Because (((Israel))) Behind the Aegis Oct 9 #34
We don't have hate crimes Zeitghost Oct 10 #38
Title I of the Civil Rights Act of 1968 MichMan Oct 10 #40
The key there Zeitghost Oct 11 #41
Cowards tend to wear masks, or hoods Jose Garcia Oct 9 #33
K&R betsuni Oct 9 #35
Bigoted cowards. Elessar Zappa Oct 9 #36
Who would defend this? Usual suspects....nt LexVegas Oct 10 #37
Digusting harassment electric_blue68 Oct 10 #39
Why there? What does that tell us? --- Why not at Trump Tower? Why not at Mar-a-Largo? Oopsie Daisy Oct 12 #43

EllieBC

(3,381 posts)
1. Antisemites target and harass
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 03:22 PM
Oct 7

Jewish democrat and his family. All while wearing masks like the cowardly little dirtbags they are.

sarisataka

(21,164 posts)
2. Anti-Semitic protesters pitch encampment outside Jewish Democrat's Ohio home
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 03:26 PM
Oct 7

Fixed it.

When you are harassing someone for being Jewish it is antisemitic. I have learned many people do not understand this simple concept.

SunSeeker

(53,898 posts)
5. Fucking assholes. Why aren't they protesting at Mar-a-Lago? Trump wants Isreal to nuke Gaza.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 03:34 PM
Oct 7

And Trump doesn't want a ceasefire. But he's not Jewish, so....

calvito

(7 posts)
7. No contribution to society
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 04:54 PM
Oct 7

You can agree or not about the Israeli policies or not like Jews but no one can deny that the contribution of Israel and the Jews regarding technology , arts, and science to the world is unparalleled considering there are only 15 million Jews in the world. It will be nice that these protestors do something positive for mankind instead of bulling Jewish people .

Talking about contributions I believe that the gulf Arab nations want to join Israel in sharing Israeli technology with their economic resources to improve the Middle East , hopefully one day the Palestinians and their Iran proxies will understand that being a terrorist is a losing proposition to everyone and that there are not 72 virgins for them waiting in their hell.

Hekate

(94,983 posts)
8. Disgusting anti-Semites target American Democratic Congressman for harassment
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 05:13 PM
Oct 7

They’ll feel so righteous if they get Trump and his Muslim Ban back, won’t they?

Why are they not at Mar A Lago? Or Trump Tower?

Polybius

(18,079 posts)
11. No one should ever harass any elected official outside of their home
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 08:23 PM
Oct 7

I would say this even if it was the most vile member Congress.

 

onandup

(701 posts)
13. They have the right to protest supporters of the slaughter
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 09:24 PM
Oct 7

As a congressman he's a legitimate person to target. He happens to be Jewish, but he's also very pro-Israel.

That said, they do need to do so in a legal manner - no illegal encampments or harassment. If they did so, was there a police report and/or arrests?

sarisataka

(21,164 posts)
14. Name one Congress person they are doing this to
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 10:28 PM
Oct 7

That doesn't "happen" to be Jewish...


It's antisemitic.

 

onandup

(701 posts)
16. Are you seriously suggesting
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 08:15 AM
Oct 8

Pro-Palestinian protesters have only demonstrated at the homes of congresspeople who are Jewish?

sarisataka

(21,164 posts)
17. Does that mean you can't name one Congressperson who doesn't "happen" to be Jewish
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 09:17 AM
Oct 8

that has had a camp set up in front of their house...

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,629 posts)
30. It's easy to justify harassing Jewish senators at their homes
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 10:11 AM
Oct 9

When you cheer pro-Hamas protesters attacking Jews in New York City.

 

onandup

(701 posts)
20. I can name one who was the target of a protest at his home
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 10:35 AM
Oct 8

But what good would it do? You've already added the stipulation the protest must have been an encampment. You want someone else to do your research and then when presented, you'll quibble about the details to argue others somehow don't qualify.

Instead, why not consider that you may have been misled by the headline? Our media is very pro-Israel.

sarisataka

(21,164 posts)
21. Link it and let me decide
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 10:40 AM
Oct 8

if it is any way a comparable protest.

You have to admit, if you are honest, setting up a camp at the end of a person's driveway to hassle them and their family every time they enter or leave the home is a high level of intimidation. Quite a bit more than walking on the sidewalk with some signs for an hour.

What is not factual about the headline? "Anti-Israel protesters pitch encampment outside Jewish Democrat's Ohio home"

 

onandup

(701 posts)
23. Of course it's factual he is Jewish
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 06:29 PM
Oct 8

But why the inclusion of his religion in the headline? It's to suggest the protest is antisemitic. Look at this thread. Folks jumped to that conclusion. And your original question to me suggests you thought pro-Palestinian protests at homes were only directed at Jews. Otherwise, I don't know why you'd ask to see evidence it happened to a non-Jew.

Here's another.


Israeli

(4,307 posts)
24. Such ignorance onandup
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 04:53 AM
Oct 9

you are equating being Jewish with religion ie quote " But why the inclusion of his religion in the headline? "

keeping it simple just for you :
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/articles/Jewish_atheist

Famous atheist or agnostic Jews include Albert Einstein, Karl Marx, and Sigmund Freud.


Im Israeli , Im Jewish and I am an atheist .....and Im not alone :

In God We Don't Trust: Five Israeli Atheists Bare Their Souls

Alongside a rise in the number of Jewish Israelis who say they believe in God, the country also has a well-established atheist community.

Source : https://archive.md/7SPfJ#selection-509.0-513.137

BTW not all Palestinians are Muslim and not all Muslim Palestinians are religious , there are secular Palestinians just as there are secular Israelis.
There are Christian Palestinians and Druze .
Israel is not 100% Jewish or religious .....far from it, although our religious messianic madmen that control our
government and control Bibi right now would love to make it so .

Hamas murdered everyone on October 7th ......Jews , Arabs ,Christians , Bedouin and even workers from Thailand !!!

How can you applaud that ????





sarisataka

(21,164 posts)
25. My guess was correct, that would be the incident you were referring to
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 09:18 AM
Oct 9

That we both immediately thought of the same 10-month-old incident is significant. I could name one or two other non-Jewish legislators who have seen small protests as well but not the over-the-top harassment of these incidents.

Why was "Jewish" included in the headline- because, just perhaps, Congressman Landsman is Jewish and the protesters chose to mask themselves, set up a camp at the edge of his driveway and harass him and his family on the anniversary of the largest single day massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. It seems to be a significant factor rather than mere happenstance.

Just like it is not coincidence it is mostly Jewish businesses and Jewish students who regularly are singled out by the protests. Am I saying are all pro-Palestinian protesters antisemitic, no, of course not. Are many of them acting in antisemitic ways, whether intentionally or out of ignorance, I believe so.

And those protesters who chose to "Flood" NYC on the anniversary of the massacre of Jewish civilians, chanting resistance is justified, hail the Oct. 7 massacre as 'day that restored nation's dignity' ... I would say Most of them are antisemitic. (I will be charitable that a small percentage are very ill-informed)

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,373 posts)
19. Nice deflection, but the question remains,
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 09:44 AM
Oct 8

can you name other Congresscritters that these "pro palestinians" have set up protest camps outside of their homes that weren't Jewish?

Demsrule86

(71,030 posts)
42. They don't. He has nothing to say to what Israel does...he is being targeted because of his
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 01:44 PM
Oct 12

faith...bigots that is what they are, and they should all be hauled down to jail before someone gets hurt.

 

onandup

(701 posts)
44. He's a strong supporter of Israel
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 04:20 PM
Oct 12

Any number of people have been the target of protests, both Jewish and non-Jewish.

If they've done anything illegal, the authorities should be contacted and they should be held accountable. But protesting itself is legal in this country.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,373 posts)
31. That one was a really offensive thread.
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 10:29 AM
Oct 9

At least the OP deleted it after major pushback, but I suspect the delete wasn't done with any decency in mind.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
38. We don't have hate crimes
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 05:18 PM
Oct 10

We have hate crime enhancements that require an underlying crime (which I believe must be a violent crime).

Being a hateful bigot is legal, being a loud obnoxious hateful bigot in public is legal. Being a violent hateful bigot is not.

MichMan

(13,358 posts)
40. Title I of the Civil Rights Act of 1968
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 09:49 PM
Oct 10

18 U.S. Code § 245 - Federally protected activities

(b)Whoever, whether or not acting under color of law, by force or threat of force willfully injures, intimidates or interferes with, or attempts to injure, intimidate or interfere with—

(1)any person because he is or has been, or in order to intimidate such person or any other person or any class of persons from—

(A)voting or qualifying to vote, qualifying or campaigning as a candidate for elective office, or qualifying or acting as a poll watcher, or any legally authorized election official, in any primary, special, or general election;

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/245
 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
41. The key there
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 04:14 PM
Oct 11

Is the use or threat of the use of force.

Then you would need to see if those specific crimes are eligible for a hate crime enhancement.

Oopsie Daisy

(4,528 posts)
43. Why there? What does that tell us? --- Why not at Trump Tower? Why not at Mar-a-Largo?
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 02:38 PM
Oct 12

If someone needs the police in order to clear the way in order to exit or enter their own property, then this is harassment and intimidation. It's not a peaceful protest.

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