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Behind the Aegis

(55,172 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 04:17 PM Oct 2024

Anti-Israel protesters pitch encampment outside Jewish Democrat's Ohio home

Source: Associated Press

Masked anti-Israel demonstrators escalated their harassment of a Jewish congressman on the eve of Monday’s anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack, pitching an encampment outside Ohio Democratic Rep. Greg Landsman ’s Cincinnati residence.

Landsman said Monday that the protesters arrived outside his home early Sunday. By evening, they set up tents, cots and sleeping bags in the road and spent the night harassing him and his family members, forcing them to secure a police escort in order to enter and exit safely, the congressman said.

“On the eve of the one-year anniversary of the October 7th terror attacks, when Jews were brutally murdered and kidnapped, these people came to the home of a Jewish family at night, dressed in all black and fully masked," Landsman said in a statement. He said that he and his daughter would be forced to navigate the encampment in order to attend an Oct. 7 service later Monday.

The group, Midwest Direct Action 4 Pali!, shared a video of the demonstration on Instagram. The video showed masked participants in black marching down the street in front of Landsman's home. Their faces were obscured as they carried white bundles that resembled shrouded bodies and brandished banners representing the numbers in the death toll. The group remained on site Monday, Landman's office said.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/anti-israel-protesters-pitch-encampment-outside-jewish-democrats-ohio-home/ar-AA1rQbkP?ocid=BingNewsVerp




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Anti-Israel protesters pitch encampment outside Jewish Democrat's Ohio home (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Oct 2024 OP
Antisemites target and harass EllieBC Oct 2024 #1
Anti-Semitic protesters pitch encampment outside Jewish Democrat's Ohio home sarisataka Oct 2024 #2
Maybe they'll set their arms on fire JoseBalow Oct 2024 #3
Malignant idiots begging for attention. Pathetic. Beastly Boy Oct 2024 #4
Fucking assholes. Why aren't they protesting at Mar-a-Lago? Trump wants Isreal to nuke Gaza. SunSeeker Oct 2024 #5
It is constant intimidation over everything. Bev54 Oct 2024 #6
No contribution to society calvito Oct 2024 #7
Disgusting anti-Semites target American Democratic Congressman for harassment Hekate Oct 2024 #8
Their faces are covered because they know they are doing something wrong - TBF Oct 2024 #9
Fucking assholes. yardwork Oct 2024 #10
No one should ever harass any elected official outside of their home Polybius Oct 2024 #11
I completely agree. N/T LisaM Oct 2024 #12
They have the right to protest supporters of the slaughter onandup Oct 2024 #13
Name one Congress person they are doing this to sarisataka Oct 2024 #14
Are you seriously suggesting onandup Oct 2024 #16
Does that mean you can't name one Congressperson who doesn't "happen" to be Jewish sarisataka Oct 2024 #17
And here we go again. MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2024 #18
It's easy to justify harassing Jewish senators at their homes AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2024 #30
I can name one who was the target of a protest at his home onandup Oct 2024 #20
Link it and let me decide sarisataka Oct 2024 #21
Of course it's factual he is Jewish onandup Oct 2024 #23
Such ignorance onandup Israeli Oct 2024 #24
Not surprising... AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2024 #28
My guess was correct, that would be the incident you were referring to sarisataka Oct 2024 #25
Nice deflection, but the question remains, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2024 #19
They don't. He has nothing to say to what Israel does...he is being targeted because of his Demsrule86 Oct 2024 #42
He's a strong supporter of Israel onandup Oct 2024 #44
Bunch of right wingers defending them on twitter. Disgusting. LeftInTX Oct 2024 #15
They'll have defenders here as well. Dr. Strange Oct 2024 #22
The ones cheering on the Pro-Hamas "By Any Means Necessary" celebrations on 10/7 nt AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2024 #29
That one was a really offensive thread. MarineCombatEngineer Oct 2024 #31
I read it Israeli Oct 2024 #32
Very nicely staged, kids, I'm sure the war will stop now Walleye Oct 2024 #26
Why isn't this a hate crime or ethnic intimidation? MichMan Oct 2024 #27
Because (((Israel))) Behind the Aegis Oct 2024 #34
We don't have hate crimes Zeitghost Oct 2024 #38
Title I of the Civil Rights Act of 1968 MichMan Oct 2024 #40
The key there Zeitghost Oct 2024 #41
Cowards tend to wear masks, or hoods Jose Garcia Oct 2024 #33
K&R betsuni Oct 2024 #35
Bigoted cowards. Elessar Zappa Oct 2024 #36
Who would defend this? Usual suspects....nt LexVegas Oct 2024 #37
Digusting harassment electric_blue68 Oct 2024 #39
Why there? What does that tell us? --- Why not at Trump Tower? Why not at Mar-a-Largo? Oopsie Daisy Oct 2024 #43

EllieBC

(3,424 posts)
1. Antisemites target and harass
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 04:22 PM
Oct 2024

Jewish democrat and his family. All while wearing masks like the cowardly little dirtbags they are.

sarisataka

(21,604 posts)
2. Anti-Semitic protesters pitch encampment outside Jewish Democrat's Ohio home
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 04:26 PM
Oct 2024

Fixed it.

When you are harassing someone for being Jewish it is antisemitic. I have learned many people do not understand this simple concept.

SunSeeker

(55,050 posts)
5. Fucking assholes. Why aren't they protesting at Mar-a-Lago? Trump wants Isreal to nuke Gaza.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 04:34 PM
Oct 2024

And Trump doesn't want a ceasefire. But he's not Jewish, so....

calvito

(7 posts)
7. No contribution to society
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 05:54 PM
Oct 2024

You can agree or not about the Israeli policies or not like Jews but no one can deny that the contribution of Israel and the Jews regarding technology , arts, and science to the world is unparalleled considering there are only 15 million Jews in the world. It will be nice that these protestors do something positive for mankind instead of bulling Jewish people .

Talking about contributions I believe that the gulf Arab nations want to join Israel in sharing Israeli technology with their economic resources to improve the Middle East , hopefully one day the Palestinians and their Iran proxies will understand that being a terrorist is a losing proposition to everyone and that there are not 72 virgins for them waiting in their hell.

Hekate

(96,614 posts)
8. Disgusting anti-Semites target American Democratic Congressman for harassment
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 06:13 PM
Oct 2024

They’ll feel so righteous if they get Trump and his Muslim Ban back, won’t they?

Why are they not at Mar A Lago? Or Trump Tower?

Polybius

(19,395 posts)
11. No one should ever harass any elected official outside of their home
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 09:23 PM
Oct 2024

I would say this even if it was the most vile member Congress.

 

onandup

(701 posts)
13. They have the right to protest supporters of the slaughter
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 10:24 PM
Oct 2024

As a congressman he's a legitimate person to target. He happens to be Jewish, but he's also very pro-Israel.

That said, they do need to do so in a legal manner - no illegal encampments or harassment. If they did so, was there a police report and/or arrests?

sarisataka

(21,604 posts)
14. Name one Congress person they are doing this to
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 11:28 PM
Oct 2024

That doesn't "happen" to be Jewish...


It's antisemitic.

 

onandup

(701 posts)
16. Are you seriously suggesting
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 09:15 AM
Oct 2024

Pro-Palestinian protesters have only demonstrated at the homes of congresspeople who are Jewish?

sarisataka

(21,604 posts)
17. Does that mean you can't name one Congressperson who doesn't "happen" to be Jewish
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 10:17 AM
Oct 2024

that has had a camp set up in front of their house...

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,740 posts)
30. It's easy to justify harassing Jewish senators at their homes
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 11:11 AM
Oct 2024

When you cheer pro-Hamas protesters attacking Jews in New York City.

 

onandup

(701 posts)
20. I can name one who was the target of a protest at his home
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 11:35 AM
Oct 2024

But what good would it do? You've already added the stipulation the protest must have been an encampment. You want someone else to do your research and then when presented, you'll quibble about the details to argue others somehow don't qualify.

Instead, why not consider that you may have been misled by the headline? Our media is very pro-Israel.

sarisataka

(21,604 posts)
21. Link it and let me decide
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 11:40 AM
Oct 2024

if it is any way a comparable protest.

You have to admit, if you are honest, setting up a camp at the end of a person's driveway to hassle them and their family every time they enter or leave the home is a high level of intimidation. Quite a bit more than walking on the sidewalk with some signs for an hour.

What is not factual about the headline? "Anti-Israel protesters pitch encampment outside Jewish Democrat's Ohio home"

 

onandup

(701 posts)
23. Of course it's factual he is Jewish
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 07:29 PM
Oct 2024

But why the inclusion of his religion in the headline? It's to suggest the protest is antisemitic. Look at this thread. Folks jumped to that conclusion. And your original question to me suggests you thought pro-Palestinian protests at homes were only directed at Jews. Otherwise, I don't know why you'd ask to see evidence it happened to a non-Jew.

Here's another.


Israeli

(4,347 posts)
24. Such ignorance onandup
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 05:53 AM
Oct 2024

you are equating being Jewish with religion ie quote " But why the inclusion of his religion in the headline? "

keeping it simple just for you :
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/articles/Jewish_atheist

Famous atheist or agnostic Jews include Albert Einstein, Karl Marx, and Sigmund Freud.


Im Israeli , Im Jewish and I am an atheist .....and Im not alone :

In God We Don't Trust: Five Israeli Atheists Bare Their Souls

Alongside a rise in the number of Jewish Israelis who say they believe in God, the country also has a well-established atheist community.

Source : https://archive.md/7SPfJ#selection-509.0-513.137

BTW not all Palestinians are Muslim and not all Muslim Palestinians are religious , there are secular Palestinians just as there are secular Israelis.
There are Christian Palestinians and Druze .
Israel is not 100% Jewish or religious .....far from it, although our religious messianic madmen that control our
government and control Bibi right now would love to make it so .

Hamas murdered everyone on October 7th ......Jews , Arabs ,Christians , Bedouin and even workers from Thailand !!!

How can you applaud that ????





sarisataka

(21,604 posts)
25. My guess was correct, that would be the incident you were referring to
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 10:18 AM
Oct 2024

That we both immediately thought of the same 10-month-old incident is significant. I could name one or two other non-Jewish legislators who have seen small protests as well but not the over-the-top harassment of these incidents.

Why was "Jewish" included in the headline- because, just perhaps, Congressman Landsman is Jewish and the protesters chose to mask themselves, set up a camp at the edge of his driveway and harass him and his family on the anniversary of the largest single day massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. It seems to be a significant factor rather than mere happenstance.

Just like it is not coincidence it is mostly Jewish businesses and Jewish students who regularly are singled out by the protests. Am I saying are all pro-Palestinian protesters antisemitic, no, of course not. Are many of them acting in antisemitic ways, whether intentionally or out of ignorance, I believe so.

And those protesters who chose to "Flood" NYC on the anniversary of the massacre of Jewish civilians, chanting resistance is justified, hail the Oct. 7 massacre as 'day that restored nation's dignity' ... I would say Most of them are antisemitic. (I will be charitable that a small percentage are very ill-informed)

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,966 posts)
19. Nice deflection, but the question remains,
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 10:44 AM
Oct 2024

can you name other Congresscritters that these "pro palestinians" have set up protest camps outside of their homes that weren't Jewish?

Demsrule86

(71,054 posts)
42. They don't. He has nothing to say to what Israel does...he is being targeted because of his
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 02:44 PM
Oct 2024

faith...bigots that is what they are, and they should all be hauled down to jail before someone gets hurt.

 

onandup

(701 posts)
44. He's a strong supporter of Israel
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 05:20 PM
Oct 2024

Any number of people have been the target of protests, both Jewish and non-Jewish.

If they've done anything illegal, the authorities should be contacted and they should be held accountable. But protesting itself is legal in this country.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,966 posts)
31. That one was a really offensive thread.
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 11:29 AM
Oct 2024

At least the OP deleted it after major pushback, but I suspect the delete wasn't done with any decency in mind.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
38. We don't have hate crimes
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 06:18 PM
Oct 2024

We have hate crime enhancements that require an underlying crime (which I believe must be a violent crime).

Being a hateful bigot is legal, being a loud obnoxious hateful bigot in public is legal. Being a violent hateful bigot is not.

MichMan

(14,438 posts)
40. Title I of the Civil Rights Act of 1968
Thu Oct 10, 2024, 10:49 PM
Oct 2024

18 U.S. Code § 245 - Federally protected activities

(b)Whoever, whether or not acting under color of law, by force or threat of force willfully injures, intimidates or interferes with, or attempts to injure, intimidate or interfere with—

(1)any person because he is or has been, or in order to intimidate such person or any other person or any class of persons from—

(A)voting or qualifying to vote, qualifying or campaigning as a candidate for elective office, or qualifying or acting as a poll watcher, or any legally authorized election official, in any primary, special, or general election;

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/245
 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
41. The key there
Fri Oct 11, 2024, 05:14 PM
Oct 2024

Is the use or threat of the use of force.

Then you would need to see if those specific crimes are eligible for a hate crime enhancement.

Oopsie Daisy

(5,428 posts)
43. Why there? What does that tell us? --- Why not at Trump Tower? Why not at Mar-a-Largo?
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 03:38 PM
Oct 2024

If someone needs the police in order to clear the way in order to exit or enter their own property, then this is harassment and intimidation. It's not a peaceful protest.

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