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BumRushDaShow

(142,257 posts)
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 06:59 PM Oct 12

Vance refuses to back down from Springfield migrant claims

Source: Politico

10/12/2024 03:08 PM EDT


Vice presidential hopeful JD Vance refused to walk back on the falsehoods he and his running mate Donald Trump have peddled on the campaign trail about Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio, instead expressing frustration with local officials and their handling of the migrant crisis.

In an interview with New York Times opinion podcaster Lulu Garcia-Navarro released Saturday, Vance pushed back against questions of whether or not he regretted his role in helping spread rumors about Haitian migrants abducting and eating cats and dogs. This baseless conspiracy theory plunged the city into turmoil, leading to bomb threats and school closures.

“It is disgraceful that American leaders pretend they care about these migrants more than they care about the people they took an oath of office to actually look after,” the Ohio senator said.

Some of those “American leaders” include Springfield Mayor Rob Rue and Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine, both Republicans, who have repeatedly debunked Trump’s and Vance’s claims. Vance later said he was “not talking about Mike DeWine,” who has endorsed the Republican presidential ticket.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/12/vance-interview-springfield-migrant-00183547

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Vance refuses to back down from Springfield migrant claims (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 12 OP
he has shown us he is a professional bullshitteer and will NEVER change. cut him off from publicity nt msongs Oct 12 #1
Just Dumb Vance doubles down on his stupidity. patphil Oct 12 #2
Interesting atreides1 Oct 12 #3
What does this mean? SineQuaNon001 Oct 12 #13
Different last names he's had. uppityperson Oct 12 #14
JD Vantz, what specific people, by name, are reporting their pets missing in this way? keithbvadu2 Oct 12 #4
cannot wait to deposit this douchebag into the dustbin of history.... bahboo Oct 12 #5
He's got marching orders from the campaign's Nazi handlers. ananda Oct 12 #6
Mike de Wine and his wife Fran Diamond_Dog Oct 12 #7
Post removed Post removed Oct 13 #15
Yeah, ok! Says Vance. Aussie105 Oct 12 #8
Shout out to the State of Ohio! What's up with you guys, you think you might wanna get Kashkakat v.2.0 Oct 12 #9
I totally understand your sentiments sdfernando Oct 12 #11
That's what happens when they go full Nazi. mn9driver Oct 12 #10
++ appalachiablue Oct 13 #18
JD Vance is a fucking fascist pig. Gary 50 Oct 12 #12
Lying about Haitians diverts from talking about Project 2025 and plans to Talibanize America C0RI0LANUS Oct 13 #16
++ appalachiablue Oct 13 #17
White ISIS is not too far off the mark.nt jfz9580m Oct 13 #19
You said it. Extremism is extremism. Look at the "Christian" rally today in DC. C0RI0LANUS Oct 13 #20
I'll take a hot dog with catchup and my son will have the fish with the hush puppies. cstanleytech Oct 13 #21
Trump's one fundamental principle is "Never Back Down". maxsolomon Oct 14 #22

patphil

(6,941 posts)
2. Just Dumb Vance doubles down on his stupidity.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 07:07 PM
Oct 12

Ohio is looking more and more like a Democratic state every day.

atreides1

(16,386 posts)
3. Interesting
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 07:08 PM
Oct 12

Here's the Presidential Oath: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Congressional Oath of Office:“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”


No where do I see in the oaths anything about looking after people!

I have to assume that JD Hamel/Bowman/Vance, obviously made up his own oath!!!

ananda

(30,814 posts)
6. He's got marching orders from the campaign's Nazi handlers.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 07:43 PM
Oct 12

This is the test case for upcoming deportations
and concentration camps.

Diamond_Dog

(34,617 posts)
7. Mike de Wine and his wife Fran
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 07:50 PM
Oct 12

have been sending $ to a Haitian school and visiting the poor in Haiti for decades, you dumbass Vance. But then that’s a trait called compassion that an ignorant racist like Vance cannot comprehend.

OTOH how DeWine still claims to support the Orange Traitor is another mystery.

Response to Diamond_Dog (Reply #7)

Aussie105

(6,256 posts)
8. Yeah, ok! Says Vance.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 07:52 PM
Oct 12

I know I'm bullshitting, but I'm just trying to appeal to the nutters out there who follow Trump.

After all, I'm second in line if he wins! I'm a shoe-in if he drops!



Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,873 posts)
9. Shout out to the State of Ohio! What's up with you guys, you think you might wanna get
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 08:43 PM
Oct 12

some recall petitions going? Do you understand that this Senator of yours incited harrassment and threats and inflicted some real damage on an innocent town iN OHIO that was minding its own business, quite happy to have its economy revitalized by people who immigrated here LEGALLY?????????

sdfernando

(5,379 posts)
11. I totally understand your sentiments
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 09:43 PM
Oct 12

but there is no recall provision for a US Senator or Congress person. The only “recall” is at the ballot box

mn9driver

(4,576 posts)
10. That's what happens when they go full Nazi.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 09:02 PM
Oct 12

Did Hitler or his surrogates ever walk back their lies about the Jews? Nope. Trump and Vance won’t walk back their insane attacks either. They have made a deliberate decision to try to win on this evil, evil track.

They have to be crushed in November. Otherwise they will never stop.

Gary 50

(399 posts)
12. JD Vance is a fucking fascist pig.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 10:09 PM
Oct 12

No, JD Scumbag, the disgrace is all yours. Real American leaders aren't pretending to care, that is something you and your rapist pal do. And where, other than from your asshole, do you get the idea that real leaders care more about migrants than people who were born here? When you took your oath of office did you say you would look after the American people, except for migrants? This utterly disgusting piece of shit admitted it was all a lie that Haitians are eating people's pets. So he doesn't back down, he doubles down. Typical nazi rhetoric.

maxsolomon

(35,048 posts)
22. Trump's one fundamental principle is "Never Back Down".
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 11:21 AM
Oct 14

Vance will ALWAYS deflect rather than admit he's incorrect. It's pointless trying to get him to do so.

Better would be to address the technique itself: "WHY do you find it neccessary to deflect from the question rather than giving an honest response?"

He'd duck that question as well, but as least the response might be more interesting that "Harris tried to censor" some idiot.

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