'Evangelicals for Harris' Goes to War With Franklin Graham

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: Newsweek

Published Oct 13, 2024 at 4:00 AM EDT


While giving a sermon in 1988, the Rev. Billy Graham, a renowned Christian evangelist, recalled a passage from the Bible that he let a man sitting next to him on a plane read. "But you must realize that in the last days, the times will be full of danger. Men will become utterly self-centered and greedy for money," he said, quoting the passage.

Men "will be proud and abusive" and "treacherous, reckless and arrogant, loving what gives them pleasure instead of loving God," he added. "They will maintain a facade of religion, but their lives deny the truth. Keep clear of people like that." Clips from that sermon were intercut with comments made by former President Donald Trump over the years in an ad released by Evangelicals for Harris, a group supporting Vice President Kamala Harris in the presidential race against Trump.

"My whole life I've been greedy, greedy, greedy," Trump says in one of the clips used in the ad. "I've grabbed all the money I could get." In others, he describes himself as "the chosen one," talks about wanting to "punch" someone in the face and boasts about kissing women without permission.

The "Keep Clear" ad is part of Evangelicals for Harris' $1 million campaign to reach evangelical voters in crucial swing states and convince them to turn out for Harris in November instead of Trump or not voting at all. But the Rev. Franklin Graham, the president and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and a longtime Trump supporter, has taken issue with the group's use of footage of his late father. "The liberals are using anything and everything they can to promote candidate Harris," he wrote on X, formerly Twitter, in August.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-harris-franklin-graham-1967569

[Lonestarblue]

1. Hope their ads work.

[walkingman]

2. Proud to call myself a liberal and don't understand these religious nuts?

The 21st century Christian is something to behold.

[BlueWavePsych]

16. Prelude to NAZI Germany in 1930s

[The Unmitigated Gall]

31. There it is.

[JT45242]

3. Probably because the younger Graham is the same sleazeball type as the orange conman

Senior was a blowhard. But he apparently tried to live what he preached.

The whole never be alone with a woman thing that Pence does is because Graham senior lived the same rule. Of course., that begs the question...what kind of a slimeball are you if you can't trust that you can have lunch alone with a female colleague for fear you might have sex with her.

But the younger Graham is a grifter of trumpian proportion. Threesome type marriage arrangement, skimming money off the top, etc.

[rpannier]

6. Long time ago someone told me he didn't

like being alone because people gossip. And, I remember my grandmother, having similar ideas about people, talking about gossipers (they're always looking for something bad to say)
For context, my grandmother was born 1913, so she was about his era

[Girard442]

30. Such an anachronism. If you're that much of a sexaphobe, don't be alone with anyone...or anything...or yourself.

[Martin Eden]

4. In the mail my wife received an unsolicited magazine style political pamphlet from Franklin Graham

Right up front under a photo of each candidate was the choice of SOCIALISM (under Harris) vs FREEDOM (under Trump).

The inside contents had very slanted policy positions & party platforms rated by adherence to biblical principles.

My wife remarked that any religious person who didn't pay much attention to news or politics would definitely vote for Trump after reading that pamphlet.

[intheflow]

33. So weird that these people think socialism ≠ freedom.

I mean, I’d love me some free medical care, I love the freedom of driving on paved roads, having city water connected to my house so I’m free to enjoy showers without having toxic chemicals washing down over me. Meanwhile, freedom from socialism is being imprisoned by debt. The folks who believe freedom and socialism are separate and unequal are delusional.

[Martin Eden]

34. Heal the sick? Feed the poor? SOCIALISM

Funny the pamphlet didn't focus at all on the gospel of Jesus.

[azureblue]

5. OK, Frank - Jesus says you're going to hell

Matthew 25: 31 -46 - Plain as day, you are refusing to do what Jesus teaches. And Jesus says hell is the consequence.

[KS Toronado]

7. Looks like KFC is gonna drag Franklin Graham into the fiery pit with him.

[rpannier]

9. Kentucky Fried Chicken is going to hell?

Likely Harlan is there -- He did consider being Wallace's VP running mate

[KS Toronado]

10. Another new name for him

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

12. Harlan's chicken sucks now, too

They definitely went down the bad food is cheaper highway.

[rpannier]

8. Franklin supposedly cared about immoral behavior

until Trump came along

[multigraincracker]

11. The end of times has come and gone.

In The Sermon on the Mt, Jesus said there are those here today that shall see my return. That was 2,000 years ago.
Tfg says he is the chosen one. See How shall we know the Anti-Christ.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

13. They didn't emphasize that promise much in catechism

Kinda rushed by the whole 'there are some who will not taste death before I return' promise by Jesus himself actually. Didn't want a buncha kids asking where the 2,000 yr old people are, I suppose.

[multigraincracker]

17. Each Sect, Sub Sect and individual church picks and chooses.

So, why can’t I? If the Scripture was clear, think there might be only one? I question the more Authoritative ones the most. No room for questions.

[BattleRow]

24. Mel Brooks did a schtick on the 2000

year old man..

[JHB]

25. As God as my witness, I'll never pass up a chance to repost this:

From http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/blog/antichrist/

A little context: the cartoonist, Dave Willis, grew up in a strict conservative evangelical household, and Joyce, the little kid/older kid/young woman in this progression is something of an alter-ego of his about how that bubble bursts for some people, and of some of the hypocrisies that manifest in the people for whom it doesn't burst.

[BlueWavePsych]

14. Stop "Sharia Law" from coming to America.

[EarnestPutz]

26. Remember when Newt Gingrinch's zealots cried foul when we called them....

...."the taliban"?

[CaptainTruth]

15. "The liberals are using anything and everything they can to promote candidate Harris"

So?

Has he not noticed that conservatives, & even so-called "religious" people like himself, have been doing that same thing for decades?

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

20. All he can do here is issue a weak statement about the "liberals"

using that term as an epithet.

What else can Graham say when his father’s words are condemning Trump and his followers?

[BattleRow]

21. Christian Mafia is a term coined

a few years ago,and is prominently figured in two books,one made into a Netflix feature;namely,Jeff Sharlet's "The Family".

The second work,predating Sharlet's,is "Christian Mafia:The Rise of the Christian Dominionist Movement"...by Wayne Madsen.

These are extremely informative and worthwhile sources of info .

[MLAA]

18. "The liberals are using anything and everything they can to promote candidate Harris,"

They are using the Bible you hypocritical asshole, are you now saying the Bible is wrong after decades of using it to force your views on others?

[twodogsbarking]

19. We do have this though. Billy Graham has been dead for 2426 days but who is counting.

[TrumanTheTiger]

22. For evangelicals, we live in a world that shouldn't exist...

...because they were raised or at least read the works of Hal Lindsay in the early 1980s. His book "The Late Great Planet Earth"--published in 1980--opened with "this book will not see its 10th anniversary."

The book's premise, as well as its followup "The Rapture", had the conclusion that Jesus would return before the end of the decade (the 1980s). Evangelical churches and denominations that have an evangelical bent taught that book as if it were written by Jesus Himself, and completely ignored Jesus' own admonition that "no one knows the day" of His return.

There was even a documentary-style movie made of it--narrated by Orson Wells!!--where Lindsay went to the Valley of Maggido in Israel and other sites.

Since we're well past the 1980s now, the last (at least) 34 years shouldn't have happened, or at least should've happened differently, and they're trying to force their own concept of Jesus' return to happen.

As I've heard in churches many times, "If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans."

[Mblaze]

23. "The liberals are using anything and everything they can to promote candidate Harris,"

Well duh.

[littlemissmartypants]

27. HALLELUJAH!! 🙏❤️

[no_hypocrisy]

28. Harris is using Christianity against False Prophets

(Profits).

[Mz Pip]

29. And if Trump loses?

Will these zealots accept it as God’s will? That perhaps their savior isn’t Trump?

[moniss]

32. Wouldn't it be nice if "Pool Boy Graham"

were to actually turn for the better?

[tavernier]

35. Are you thinking of Jerry Falwell Jr.?

He and wife had a little party going with a pool boy.

[moniss]

37. I stand corrected. So many grifters they all meld together after awhile. nt

[tavernier]

38. Boy, ain't that the truth!!!

[OldBaldy1701E]

36. Hey Frankie, is that a 'for sale' sign on the Southern Baptist Convention building in Nashville?

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2024/09/southern-baptist-sbc-nashville-building-headquarters-sale-abuse-legal-cost/

Why yes... I believe it is.

Jerk.

[Tikki]

39. Franklin Graham, Martha Alito and others..when I hear them talk, read their words..

I come to know real EVIL.

Tikki

[DFW]

40. If Billy Graham were still alive

He'd toss Franklin acroccs his knees, pull down his trousers, and spank him until he cried out for the Lord's mercy, which he would not be about to get.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

41. Evangelicals for Harris is out with a new powerful ad

Link to tweet

[LetMyPeopleVote]

42. Evangelicals For Harris Promo