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LastLiberal in PalmSprings

(12,901 posts)
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:37 PM Oct 13

Trump wants US citizens who oppose him to be 'handled' by military

Source: The Inependent

Donald Trump said the bigger problem for the US than foreign influence or migrants is “the enemy from within” whom he characterized as “sick people, radical left lunatics”, a term he often applies to Democratic opponents.

The former president told Maria Bartiromo on Fox News‘ Sunday Morning Futures that they — US citizens — “should be easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military”.

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Read more: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-rally-harris-election-live-updates-b2628255.html



And half of the voters want him to be president???
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Trump wants US citizens who oppose him to be 'handled' by military (Original Post) LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 13 OP
Yup, this is what those half want durablend Oct 13 #1
Sad - but true peppertree Oct 13 #25
Yep that was a popular topic on that forum that they used to plan Jan 06 IbogaProject Oct 13 #35
That's them. Sono tutti fascisti! peppertree Oct 13 #36
The response to this will make the kairos12 Oct 13 #44
We saw this before. It was the Tiananmen Square massacre. sakabatou Oct 13 #2
If this were any rational country, this goniff would be polling less than 30%. AZLD4Candidate Oct 13 #3
X 1000000 Evolve Dammit Oct 13 #22
If this was a rational country, that rich asshole would not be a rich asshole. OldBaldy1701E Oct 14 #57
So . . . AverageOldGuy Oct 13 #4
same. have another tthing coming. AllaN01Bear Oct 13 #21
this is getting worrisome ("I'll take a few with me") OldSWODog Oct 13 #40
Ammo? What ammo? BidenRocks Oct 13 #45
"Handled"? What does that mean? Boomerproud Oct 13 #5
It's EXACTLY Russia....at least the Treasonous Pigs vision of it.... AZ8theist Oct 13 #8
When he says, "handled", I hear "dealt with." n/t Harker Oct 13 #12
I hear... littlemissmartypants Oct 14 #61
That's what "dealt with" means to me, too, as in, "you'll be taken away and dealt with." Harker Oct 14 #67
I hope... littlemissmartypants Oct 14 #71
I'm with you on that. Harker Oct 14 #72
More promises of nazi/fascism being dutifully unreported by the domestic media PSPS Oct 13 #6
Some media, not all. MSNBC is doing a good job calling it out. onetexan Oct 13 #46
Hope they have a satellite office in Canada. TommyT139 Oct 14 #55
Let's go over this. This demented 78 y/o convicted felon/rapist feels the military mpcamb Oct 13 #7
Flynn's still in the picture too. TommyT139 Oct 14 #56
...and he wants a military convoy security detail EarthFirst Oct 13 #9
What was dear Maria's reaction? Was she beaming with pride? Freethinker65 Oct 13 #10
What a coincidence! Grokenstein Oct 13 #11
I've changed my mind - time for Biden to use his POTUS immunity to walkingman Oct 13 #30
Not deport. Lock up. onetexan Oct 13 #47
Hoosegow time... nt sprinkleeninow Oct 14 #51
1st ammendment beesplease Oct 13 #13
Mark Robinson johnnyfins Oct 13 #32
Vile enuff. Fits the bill. nt sprinkleeninow Oct 14 #52
Will he be wearing leather? littlemissmartypants Oct 14 #62
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Oct 14 #76
Half? 2naSalit Oct 13 #14
Cadet Bonespurs wants to use the military Skittles Oct 13 #15
Trump & MAGA are the "enemy within." CaptainTruth Oct 13 #16
Half the voters do not want him to be president. Magoo48 Oct 13 #17
When you look at those videos of people being interviewed at his rallies kimbutgar Oct 13 #18
It is a Nazi cult Evolve Dammit Oct 13 #23
You vill obey,UND you vill like it! BattleRow Oct 13 #27
Won't see this on a Kamala ad or............Trump NGeorgian Oct 13 #19
My military service means nothing, eh? slightlv Oct 13 #20
Well said, and my WWII dad would be really pissed too. Evolve Dammit Oct 13 #24
Include mine also. nt sprinkleeninow Oct 14 #53
After Pearl Harbor, we were a united country. I grew up with that memory instilled. Evolve Dammit Oct 14 #60
You got that right, Evolve! slightlv Oct 14 #77
Thank you so much for your heartfelt reply. And thank you for serving. I tried to enlist when I was ten, but they would Evolve Dammit Oct 14 #81
{{ }} n/t slightlv Oct 14 #83
What ism? Fascism more like it. littlemissmartypants Oct 14 #64
You kidding? If my father were still alive, he'd call the Hotline to have me no_hypocrisy Oct 13 #26
Well back, Mr. McCarthy. ... littlemissmartypants Oct 14 #65
We know Trump wants to be a ruthless dictator, but why isn't the current Democratic administration and the Harris Doodley Oct 13 #28
They are onetexan Oct 13 #48
The casual observer would have no idea that this is a crisis. Where is the prime-time address to the nation? Doodley Oct 14 #58
It's in every stump speech she gives. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 14 #66
Gee, I wonder.......... DFW Oct 13 #29
And that half needs to be dealt with highly accordingly. The Grand Illuminist Oct 13 #31
If is smells like fascism liberal N proud Oct 13 #33
I want Trump to be "handled" by the justice system. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court is compromised. Martin68 Oct 13 #34
Yes, half of America is willing to backstab the other half of America for the promise... DSandra Oct 13 #37
And zero accountability for anything if you're wealthy Evolve Dammit Oct 14 #59
Bring it on kevink077 Oct 13 #38
I wonder if this bothers Merick Garland? nt Hotler Oct 13 #39
Civics needs to be part of Basic n/t ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 13 #41
His minions are fine with this Mz Pip Oct 13 #42
Make no mistake about it: COL Mustard Oct 13 #43
❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 14 #68
What those half really want Dave Id Oct 14 #49
Yup, they're all in. StarryNite Oct 14 #50
Welcome! ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 14 #69
According to Liz Cheney's book, he tried for that in 2020, but he was firmly turned down Rhiannon12866 Oct 14 #54
Scary. littlemissmartypants Oct 14 #70
That's the thing, he has no knowledge of laws or norms, nor does he care Rhiannon12866 Oct 14 #73
Perfect description, Rhi. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 14 #74
Bring it on. czarjak Oct 14 #63
Not half by a long shot. That's media hype. Give up the media hype. Get numbers. ancianita Oct 14 #75
Should we Dems change our party affiliation? vapor2 Oct 14 #78
Maddowblog-Trump suggests using the military to address 'the enemy from within' LetMyPeopleVote Oct 14 #79
Handle this orangecrush Oct 14 #80
Sure... Godot51 Oct 14 #82
The only threat to our country is him and his supporters mdbl Oct 14 #84

peppertree

(22,850 posts)
25. Sad - but true
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 06:02 PM
Oct 13

Most Republicans these days privately (and not-so privately) want Argentine dictatorship-style disappearances and politically-motivated property seizures.

And Trump - one of whose closest foreign friends (Macri) is an Argentine dictatorship sympathizer (to say nothing of Putin) - openly relishes the idea.

He forgets that said abuses were promptly followed by an outright economic collapse - from which, 43 years later, they still haven't fully recovered.

IbogaProject

(3,647 posts)
35. Yep that was a popular topic on that forum that they used to plan Jan 06
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 08:59 PM
Oct 13

I don't recall the name of the forum but I read it in the lead up to Jan 06. They cretins on there loved suggesting "chopper rides" to members of our side. This was a reference to either Pinochet or the Argentinian dictator who had their secret police drop activists out of helicopters to scare any other resisters.

peppertree

(22,850 posts)
36. That's them. Sono tutti fascisti!
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:15 PM
Oct 13

Indeed, one of the most prominent J/6 insurrectionists, was a fascist Argentine-American - whose uncle helped engineer the bankruptcy and derailment of Argentina in the early 1980s.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/110875626

How and why "Freddie" Klein came to have Top Secret clearance under Trump, is something that should've been looked into further I think (a back-channel between Cheeto and Macri?).

Trump is widely suspected of election interference in Argentina, ahead of the 2019 elections (which his pal Macri lost anyway). That seemed right up Freddie's alley.


OldBaldy1701E

(6,341 posts)
57. If this was a rational country, that rich asshole would not be a rich asshole.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 04:30 AM
Oct 14

He would be flipping burgers at some no name restaurant. But, we reward asshole behavior while ridiculing anyone who is not a greedy vulture.

Also, there would not be such social and financial inequity if this were a rational country. But I digress...

AverageOldGuy

(2,055 posts)
4. So . . .
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:05 PM
Oct 13

My service from 1967 to 1995 including a tour in the bush in Vietnam is worth nothing?? Is he telling me the Virginia National Guard will arrest me, stand me against the wall and shoot me because of the "Harris-Walz" bumper sticker on my ragged old truck?

Is that what I'm hearing?

I'll take a few with me.

OldSWODog

(71 posts)
40. this is getting worrisome ("I'll take a few with me")
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:45 PM
Oct 13

AOG, greetings...I was wondering about my own service (72-95) and the current t-shirts I wear "in the ville"...sad to report that I've checked the conditions of firearm, ammo currently in different rooms recently...this is not a good state of affairs...however, one must do what one must do...gorblimey!...cheers, OSD

Boomerproud

(8,407 posts)
5. "Handled"? What does that mean?
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:22 PM
Oct 13

Court martials for civilians without due process? Peaceful protesting being made a crime? Sounds like Russia.

Harker

(14,931 posts)
67. That's what "dealt with" means to me, too, as in, "you'll be taken away and dealt with."
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:04 AM
Oct 14

A lot of people seem to be on board with that, so long as it's someone else being put against the wall.

Those people. Them. Not me, of course.

Yeah, we're on the brink.

Harker

(14,931 posts)
72. I'm with you on that.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:20 AM
Oct 14

Win or lose, the election won't likely end the right's increasingly bold embrace of fascism, but it might set them back some.

It's going to take a lot of ❤️.

mpcamb

(2,969 posts)
7. Let's go over this. This demented 78 y/o convicted felon/rapist feels the military
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:31 PM
Oct 13

should 'deal with' -meaning('punish') , those who opposed him in an election,
should have his way??
An elderly crazy man, with a family history of Alzheimers's, seeks control of a democratic
nation so he can carry out a program of vengeance?
Oh, and wants control of the military too?

Sounds an awful lot like Hitler or Mussolini to me...

Grokenstein

(5,829 posts)
11. What a coincidence!
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:52 PM
Oct 13

I also want "the enemy within" to be "easily handled," albeit by our justice system. But sure, if the military is necessary to take out the next redcap insurrection, I'm okay with that too.

walkingman

(8,333 posts)
30. I've changed my mind - time for Biden to use his POTUS immunity to
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 06:26 PM
Oct 13

deport that damn lunatic. He is a threat to our country and that is not OK.

edited to add - On second thought if he did they would also so I guess not a good idea.
I despise that POS.

2naSalit

(92,669 posts)
14. Half?
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:11 PM
Oct 13

What are you smokin?

If you really think half the voters in the US are behind this rubbish heap, I have a bridge to sell you.

kimbutgar

(23,265 posts)
18. When you look at those videos of people being interviewed at his rallies
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:35 PM
Oct 13

They’re all in for the military to shoot and put in camps liberals, immigrants and minorities who don’t support the fatten golden calf.

NGeorgian

(86 posts)
19. Won't see this on a Kamala ad or............Trump
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:36 PM
Oct 13

saying vote one more time. After that we will have it fixed.

'You won’t have to vote anymore' if he is elected, Donald Trump tells



slightlv

(4,325 posts)
20. My military service means nothing, eh?
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:49 PM
Oct 13

My Dad's time fighting Nazi's in WWII means nothing?! I guess that's it. We ARE the enemies. WE fight for freedom and democracy. He fights for libertarianism and nazi's.

slightlv

(4,325 posts)
77. You got that right, Evolve!
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 03:57 PM
Oct 14

My Dad was a depression kid. Lost his twin in a house fire and was shuttled from relative to relative until he could finally enlist in the Army Air Corp. He was a Medic. He came from a long line of military men in his family, including one family member who died at the Alamo. I was honored enough to see the plaque on one of the walls of the Alamo (although I DO know the real history of that fight).

He was proud of his service, and instilled that pride of country into at least me, his eldest daughter. He was popping buttons when I officially gave my oath (of course, he was there to witness it). He was also proud when, as a civilian, I was accepted into a DoD/Army GS position. Sense of Service to this country, what we stood for as a nation, and the need to give back more than we get, was deeply ingrained in me by this man.

He's been gone now for nearly two decades. I'm now about the same age he was when he died. I miss him sorely every day of my life... so much I want to share with him the absence is almost palpable (especially at this time of year). He was an old-school, Lincoln Republican. He'd have died seeing the traitor put into the office by the American people. I am so glad he's not here today to see this mess. But I know he's turning over in his grave!

Evolve Dammit

(18,604 posts)
81. Thank you so much for your heartfelt reply. And thank you for serving. I tried to enlist when I was ten, but they would
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 05:54 PM
Oct 14

not sign me up. I accompanied my brother to his draft appointment. I wore my fathers USCG hat (WWII; three theatres; mine-sweeper, sub-chaser and destroyer escort) proudly as well as my uncles (101st Airborne Medic).
I am absolutely enraged at what the Orange Boy has stated about military service men and women, and hope that we kick his ass to the curb in three weeks.
Both parents lived through depression, in a time when people took care of each other. We still have some of that, but not enough.
wepals:

Doodley

(10,379 posts)
28. We know Trump wants to be a ruthless dictator, but why isn't the current Democratic administration and the Harris
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 06:10 PM
Oct 13

campaign collectively going on prime-time TV with a sense of urgency and outrage to ensure that this is treated by the media and much of the electorate as a crisis?

Doodley

(10,379 posts)
58. The casual observer would have no idea that this is a crisis. Where is the prime-time address to the nation?
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 05:31 AM
Oct 14

DSandra

(1,260 posts)
37. Yes, half of America is willing to backstab the other half of America for the promise...
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:20 PM
Oct 13

Of what Trump is selling them: a better economic situation, a time when things were simpler and religion and traditional gender roles were unquestioned.

Honestly, this reminds me of an old saying back in the Bush era: "If you are willing to trade freedom for a little more security, you deserve neither."

COL Mustard

(6,883 posts)
43. Make no mistake about it:
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 11:39 PM
Oct 13

Trump is the domestic enemy that I swore an oath against. Many of you swore that same oath.

Dave Id

(34 posts)
49. What those half really want
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 12:26 AM
Oct 14

What that half of voters really want is for Trump to be a dictator. I find that truly disgusting.

Rhiannon12866

(222,081 posts)
54. According to Liz Cheney's book, he tried for that in 2020, but he was firmly turned down
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 04:11 AM
Oct 14

However, none of those officials have anything to do with him now, he only surrounds himself with those who support his return to "power."

Rhiannon12866

(222,081 posts)
73. That's the thing, he has no knowledge of laws or norms, nor does he care
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:27 AM
Oct 14

He treats the presidency like his father's business, he believes he can do anything he wants.

ancianita

(38,516 posts)
75. Not half by a long shot. That's media hype. Give up the media hype. Get numbers.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 12:05 PM
Oct 14

TOTAL REGISTERED (213,799,467) WHO VOTED BUT DID NOT VOTE for Trump IN 2020 = 84,172,012 (D + 3rd) = 39% OF REGISTERED POPULATION, AND
= 34 % OF VOTING AGE POPULATION

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/number-of-registered-voters-by-state

LetMyPeopleVote

(154,441 posts)
79. Maddowblog-Trump suggests using the military to address 'the enemy from within'
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 04:10 PM
Oct 14

After referring to his American opponents as "scum," the Republican candidate suggested possibly using the military to respond to "the enemy from within."



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-suggests-using-military-address-enemy-rcna175255

Donald Trump broke new ground in his criticisms of Americans last year when the former president released a video in which he argued, among other things, “[T]he greatest threat to Western Civilization today is not Russia. It’s probably, more than anything else, ourselves and some of the horrible, U.S.A.-hating people that represent us.”

Months later, in a Veterans Day message, the Republican not only referred to many Americans as “vermin” — phrasing that echoed Hitler and Mussolini — he concluded, “The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave, than the threat from within.”.....

That was new, but it wasn’t the most unsettling comment on the subject. The Washington Post reported:

Former president Donald Trump said in an interview that aired Sunday that he is worried about the prospect of unspecified actions by what he dubbed “radical left lunatics” on Election Day, urging that the National Guard or U.S. military be deployed on American soil against those he labeled “the enemy from within.


.....In the next breath, in an apparent reference to Election Day concerns, the Republican concluded, “It should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard — or if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen.”



.....Trump, meanwhile, has gone from describing many Americans as “evil” to condemning them as “vermin” to equating them with the foreign enemies to labeling them “the enemy from within” — who might even warrant some kind of military response.

Eight years later, “basket of deplorables” seems almost quaint.

mdbl

(5,477 posts)
84. The only threat to our country is him and his supporters
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 06:50 PM
Oct 14

That's where the military needs to concentrate on protecting America.

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