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BumRushDaShow

(142,419 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 04:31 AM Oct 24

Heritage-Funded Group Publishes 'Target' List of 'Subversive' Bureaucrats

Source: msn/MEDIAite

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A group funded by the far-right Heritage Foundation think tank published a list of federal officials it referred to as “targets.” Targets for what? The site, titled “DHS Watchlist,” does not specify.

The site and the list featured on it are the handiwork of the American Accountability Foundation, which is “Funded by the Heritage Foundation Innovation Award,” according to the site. Mediaite is not linking to it.

Readers are told that the government officials named are “America’s Most Subversive Immigration Bureaucrats.”

Seven agencies are shown, on which users can click via a dropdown menu. They are the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice Executive Office of Immigration Review, the Department of Justice Office of Immigration Litigation, Department of Justice immigration judges, Ombudsman Offices, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/heritage-funded-group-publishes-target-list-of-subversive-bureaucrats/ar-AA1sO2au

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Heritage-Funded Group Publishes 'Target' List of 'Subversive' Bureaucrats (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 24 OP
A list of American heroes ck4829 Oct 24 #1
who could nazi that coming Skittles Oct 24 #2
Hopefully this will spark some action from the doj to begin protecting U.S. Democracy. Think. Again. Oct 24 #3
What on earth does anyone expect the DOJ to do? Sue them into being true to the hope of the founders? jaxexpat Oct 24 #9
Laws have been, and are still are, being broken. I expect the doj to respond effectively to that. Think. Again. Oct 24 #11
Fair points. I cannot wrap my head around how utterly undermined and corrupted our system of laws have become. msfiddlestix Oct 24 #16
We may well feel the reality of our blissful ignorance. jaxexpat Oct 24 #18
Geebus... 2naSalit Oct 24 #4
I hope some good attorneys working for government employees will sue for sinkingfeeling Oct 24 #5
Eye for an eye sarchasm Oct 24 #6
Pure Projection. GB_RN Oct 24 #7
How long, o Lord, how long... RobertDevereaux Oct 24 #8
In my lifetime we had blacklists. Voltaire2 Oct 24 #10
Okay. Finally found the list, but 10 people is hardly exhaustive, likely just the start. Heritage probably learned its ancianita Oct 24 #12
Murdock should have been deported years ago. msfiddlestix Oct 24 #17
He bought into his citizenship, then used his 'free speech' rights. Dominion had no evidence against him, so... ancianita Oct 24 #22
Heritage is a pass-through for 666koch666 not fooled Oct 24 #26
Interesting factoid about the Koch Brothers, thank you. msfiddlestix Oct 24 #33
Bloomberg Law News had it BumRushDaShow Oct 24 #25
Oh, I'm aware that you're as on it as can be. Just thought I'd help the cause & add another name to the shady ancianita Oct 24 #27
Heritage foundation is a terrorist organization. Clouds Passing Oct 24 #13
So when will the DOJ break down doors of these seditious traitors Bluethroughu Oct 24 #14
What statute of the law would authorize them "break(ing) down doors" BumRushDaShow Oct 24 #15
I don't know but they did it to the Democratic protestors in Oregon, Bluethroughu Oct 24 #21
"I don't know but they did it to the Democratic protestors in Orego," BumRushDaShow Oct 24 #24
Amen. DU should never entertain any remedies other than rule of law. ancianita Oct 24 #28
I didn't say anything about vigilantism. Bluethroughu Oct 24 #34
"I said why hasn't the DOJ been breaking down doors..." BumRushDaShow Oct 25 #35
That's what I meant. The DOJ knocks down doors after a process. Bluethroughu Oct 25 #36
So is the traitorous Heritage Foundation still tax exempt? travelingthrulife Oct 24 #19
Did anyone else notice DemonGoddess Oct 24 #20
Like the Heritage Foundation members family history isn't full of immigrants................. turbinetree Oct 24 #23
Good post, thanks! It's worth noticing that ancianita Oct 24 #30
The Heritage Foundation is laying the groundwork for a purge of honest career civil servants and their replacement Martin68 Oct 24 #29
Full-on Nazi bullshit JoseBalow Oct 24 #31
School shooters, among others, have a "list", as well... slightlv Oct 24 #32
 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
9. What on earth does anyone expect the DOJ to do? Sue them into being true to the hope of the founders?
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 07:29 AM
Oct 24

Our nation and democracy, generally, has no effective defense when the sacred purpose of a "free press", so enamored by the founders, is outmatched by the "free speech rights" of propagandists.

Our sacred democratic election process has devolved into a crude transactional marketing orgy. It is a ritual of capitalism. It is no longer recognizable as the singularly defining act of self-determination by free people. A victim of limitless "freedom".

Think. Again.

(18,006 posts)
11. Laws have been, and are still are, being broken. I expect the doj to respond effectively to that.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:06 AM
Oct 24

This week the doj "sent a letter" to someone who is flagrantly breaking laws in such a way that could manipulate our elections.

The letter advised the recipients that they might be beaking laws (although I strongly suspect the doj knows whether or not laws were broken and if they don't they should not be working in the doj). This letter was no more than free legal advice to the law breakers that they should adapt their attempts to manipulate the elections to appear less illegal.

I expect the doj to react with the full force of their authority to hold law breakers accountable for breaking laws, and to perform their duties in such a way that deters laws from being broken in the first place.

msfiddlestix

(7,811 posts)
16. Fair points. I cannot wrap my head around how utterly undermined and corrupted our system of laws have become.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:01 AM
Oct 24

or maybe it was always corrupt and undermined, even on a large scale and we just never recognized it until we attempted to engage within our system of governance.
And when it comes to participating in our single most effective means of self expression via elections, the "Days of Tammany Hall" never really ended. entirely.
However, I am grateful and appreciate vast improvements in accountability with California's elections systems. Not perfect, don't know how it could be, but vastly improved,


sarchasm

(1,228 posts)
6. Eye for an eye
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 07:08 AM
Oct 24

I know … makes the whole world blind … but just the same, where’s the list with THEIR names?

and for good measure, (and this just pisses me off even more) it just happens to be a “target” list.

GB_RN

(3,157 posts)
7. Pure Projection.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 07:09 AM
Oct 24

Foisting their own subversive behavior onto those who are upholding the law and democracy.

RobertDevereaux

(1,939 posts)
8. How long, o Lord, how long...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 07:09 AM
Oct 24

...befiore the Heritage Foundation is granted its well-earned designation as.a terrorist organization?

Voltaire2

(14,719 posts)
10. In my lifetime we had blacklists.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 07:30 AM
Oct 24

We’ve been here before. Repeatedly. After WW2 we had McCarthy and the blacklists. After WW1 we had the Palmer Raids and mass deportations.

For our First Nation people and for African Americans the fascist face of our government has always been part of their experience.

ancianita

(38,583 posts)
12. Okay. Finally found the list, but 10 people is hardly exhaustive, likely just the start. Heritage probably learned its
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:20 AM
Oct 24

lesson during the DNC about being too up front too soon.

A link from https://www.joemygod.com/2024/10/heritage-group-publishes-hit-list-of-subversive-feds/

Murdoch's Post promotes all things Heritage; he quotes Thomas Jones of the American Accountability Foundation who launched the website and says more will be "added in coming weeks."

Right now this is just a hit list on the US Immigration Service.

https://www.dhswatchlist.com

Otherwise mediate's link-less article seems like a teaser.

ancianita

(38,583 posts)
22. He bought into his citizenship, then used his 'free speech' rights. Dominion had no evidence against him, so...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:16 AM
Oct 24

we're stuck with him.

The worst thing though, isn't just that he promotes all Koch network messaging, it's that Charles Koch is still alive and the godfather of both Heritage and Project 2025.

not fooled

(6,073 posts)
26. Heritage is a pass-through for 666koch666
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 11:20 AM
Oct 24

Just a laundering operation so charlie's cloven hoofprints aren't too obvious.

BumRushDaShow

(142,419 posts)
25. Bloomberg Law News had it
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:57 AM
Oct 24

but it is paywalled (I sub to regular Bloomberg but it doesn't cover that site) - https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bloomberg-government-news/trump-deep-state-purge-promise-boosted-by-heritage-funded-list

Sometimes Bloomberg Law News will allow some articles without a paywall.

They mention the "American Accountability Foundation", which has a website here - https://americanaccountabilityfoundation.com/

And here is their "press release" with the "bureaucrat list" - https://americanaccountabilityfoundation.com/blog/2024/10/23/the-biden-harris-bureaucrat-watchlist-goes-live-today/

And that links back to the DHSWatchlist.com page.

Since I have a couple dozen news sites in tabs, each having dozens of links that I scan through all day, this story was well-hidden and didn't really show up on their "main pages" (despite any publication date/time) until late, and when they did, by then they were outside of LBN's 12-hour criteria.

ancianita

(38,583 posts)
27. Oh, I'm aware that you're as on it as can be. Just thought I'd help the cause & add another name to the shady
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:09 PM
Oct 24

Heritage octopus that eventually wants to take over Washington.

Clouds Passing

(2,268 posts)
13. Heritage foundation is a terrorist organization.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:47 AM
Oct 24

Just because they don’t use bombs and guns doesn’t mean they are not terrorists. They use fear, intimidation and control over others as their terroristic “weapons”.

Bluethroughu

(5,779 posts)
14. So when will the DOJ break down doors of these seditious traitors
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:53 AM
Oct 24

opperating in the open, funded by billionaires.

Seize their assets.

Bluethroughu

(5,779 posts)
21. I don't know but they did it to the Democratic protestors in Oregon,
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:14 AM
Oct 24

During the trump administration, for protesting. They did it to the black panthers.
They shot and killed people from both of those groups.

The Heritage Foundation primarily funded by the Kochs have a document of destruction ready to go, with a bunch of Nazis loving Constitution hating plans...people ready and already defending it. Project 2025 is sedition if ever there was a plan and they are already intimidating people in our government with their stochastic terrorism by outing hard working government people with their families. This is not normal.

BumRushDaShow

(142,419 posts)
24. "I don't know but they did it to the Democratic protestors in Orego,"
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:45 AM
Oct 24

People protesting and engaging in "civil disobedience" (let alone any provocateurs causing damage to buildings), where there are usually local ordinances that have certain restrictions in place, is one thing.

But purportedly "making lists" violates what law?

And I will say this - because I DEFINITELY "get" the frustration on DU because what is going on behind the scenes (and in more recent cases, right out in the open) is MADNESS, but that doesn't get resolved through insisting on and encouraging literal "vigilantism" and "extra-judicial" remedies.

Bluethroughu

(5,779 posts)
34. I didn't say anything about vigilantism.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:27 PM
Oct 24

I said why hasn't the DOJ been breaking down doors...the investigation into 1/6 coup are the same actors and benefactors of Project 2025.

I didn't say people should just go to the Koch's house and drag him out.

Hitting the pavement, doesn't mean punching the pavement.

BumRushDaShow

(142,419 posts)
35. "I said why hasn't the DOJ been breaking down doors..."
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 05:55 AM
Oct 25

That's vigilantism.

In order to "break down doors", they have to go to a JUDGE to get a search warrant. And in order to get approval for that, they have to comply with this pesky thing -

Fourth Amendment

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fourth_amendment


We are NOT at the Gestapo stage here in the U.S. although we know 45 wants it and unfortunately many on DU want it as well.

If the violation of some LAW/statute hasn't been identified yet (and that is what they would be looking to do with an investigation that they sure as hell are NOT going to broadcast and spoonfeed to the media about), then there won't be any "breaking down doors". If they let everyone know what they were doing, as they were doing it, and broadcast it because we demand it, then much of it would probably be thrown out in court.

Bluethroughu

(5,779 posts)
36. That's what I meant. The DOJ knocks down doors after a process.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 08:37 AM
Oct 25

What I mean, is they should be at that point in their process. We all see the dark money flowing into 501c-3 for political reasons and other finacial crimes that brought us to 1/6 an insurrection. If that had been the Black Panther org, well it's not because they had their doors kicked in and some jailed, by the DOJ...FOR LESS THAN 1/6.

travelingthrulife

(724 posts)
19. So is the traitorous Heritage Foundation still tax exempt?
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:10 AM
Oct 24

Wouldn't want them to have to pay taxes while they dismantle our country.

turbinetree

(25,288 posts)
23. Like the Heritage Foundation members family history isn't full of immigrants.................
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:22 AM
Oct 24

Like the Kochs' great grandfather wasn't a immigrant.................and he was Dutch............and then when you go into google to research these hypocrites...........you see this..............

https://www.newnetherlandinstitute.org/history-and-heritage/dutch_americans/harry-koch

and my all time favorite of hypocrisy ........from the Heritage Foundation..................


Sharing in the American experience

Immigration
Immigration is good. Welcoming immigrants who are motivated to improve their lives and contribute to society will enrich America as their ideas and talents drive progress and improve the lives of others. The Charles Koch Foundation is committed to supporting research and initiatives that illustrate how best to open America to everyone who will make the country better off — and nobody who will take advantage or do harm.


https://charleskochfoundation.org/focus-areas/immigration/



ancianita

(38,583 posts)
30. Good post, thanks! It's worth noticing that
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:44 PM
Oct 24

Charles Koch through his "official" mission statements of his foundations, speaks with a forked tongue when his Donors Trust network is full of oligarchs like himself who target anyone not wanting this government to be run like Koch Industries. It's his "Freedom" Caucus that has infected the spineless GOP in the House. Project 2025 is his rosemary's baby slouching toward Bethlehem.

Martin68

(24,611 posts)
29. The Heritage Foundation is laying the groundwork for a purge of honest career civil servants and their replacement
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:18 PM
Oct 24

with MAGA loyalists.

slightlv

(4,333 posts)
32. School shooters, among others, have a "list", as well...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 07:31 PM
Oct 24

this is terrorism under the guise of politics. Why and how can these people get away with this legally? Yes, HF is planning a purge of honest civil workers, the higher the post the more likely to axed. But I can't see how this can be part of a "transition plan" when these people refuse to sign the necessary documents for a transition! And yet, they can declare and brag about a hit list?

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