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demmiblue

(37,866 posts)
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:01 AM Oct 25

'Washingon Post' won't endorse in White House race for first time since 1980s

Source: NPR

Even though the presidential race between former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris remains neck and neck, The Washington Post editorial page has decided not to make a presidential endorsement for the first time in 36 years, the editorial page editor told colleagues at a tense meeting Friday morning.

The meeting was characterized by someone with direct knowledge of discussions on condition of anonymity to speak about internal matters.

The editorial page editor, David Shipley, told colleagues that the Post's publisher, Will Lewis, would publish a note to readers online early Friday afternoon.

Shipley told colleagues the editorial board was told yesterday by management that there would not be an endorsement. He added that he "owns" this decision. The reason he cited was to create "independent space" where the newspaper does not tell people for whom to vote.

Read more: https://www.npr.org/2024/10/25/nx-s1-5165353/washingon-post-presidential-endorsement-trump-harris







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'Washingon Post' won't endorse in White House race for first time since 1980s (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 25 OP
??? FBaggins Oct 25 #1
not stunning calilama Oct 25 #17
Bezos n/t PedroXimenez Oct 25 #2
Bezos bought them long ago and largely has stayed out spooky3 Oct 25 #15
Time to cancel my Prime Farmer-Rick Oct 25 #84
🫤 dweller Oct 25 #3
Bezos doesn't want to lose contracts w/ the govt Dennis Donovan Oct 25 #4
More likely he doesn't want to have to finally pay a fair share of taxes. cstanleytech Oct 25 #18
or maybe is trying to get off his "enemy within" list and whatever may follow (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 25 #60
"Democracy Dies In Darkness," WaPo? Ocelot II Oct 25 #5
after your lackluster record NJCher Oct 25 #6
Serously .. that's BS SarcasticSatyr Oct 25 #7
And they have always endorsed in lower level races. Isn't spooky3 Oct 25 #16
I grew up in a WaPo home and have had my own subscription since 1982. I just canceled it. 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 25 #8
Me too. moreland01 Oct 25 #40
Try "independent media" cilla4progress Oct 25 #47
I've been looking at the comments section on the announcement. MANY cancellations! 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 25 #49
Democracy Dies in Silence Prairie Gates Oct 25 #9
Hello fascism. liberalmuse Oct 25 #10
Then "Democracy Dies in Darkness" was an announcement, not a motto. chowder66 Oct 25 #11
Unbelievable cilla4progress Oct 25 #12
The LA Times isn't either. Disgraceful underpants Oct 25 #13
I was wondering if The WaPO was going to BigmanPigman Oct 25 #100
Another "newspaper " Dead to me. FalloutShelter Oct 25 #14
Democracy dies in darkness. Dennis Donovan Oct 25 #19
Excellent. Ray Bruns Oct 25 #46
I posted this earlier and at Reddit wolfie001 Oct 25 #20
They are showing you who they are Keepthesoulalive Oct 25 #21
Let the Post die in darkness Freethinker65 Oct 25 #22
They are all hedging their bets Marigold Oct 25 #23
When top newspapers won't endorse Marthe48 Oct 25 #24
Murdoch-ization of the Washington Post pat_k Oct 25 #25
Choosing to not choose is still a choice sarisataka Oct 25 #26
It's the choice that says both candidates are equally valid William Seger Oct 25 #51
Exactly. WaPo's (Bezos') move to step in and block the draft Harris endorsement was simply reprehensible. nt SunSeeker Oct 25 #78
Boycott epreic01 Oct 25 #27
Colossal cowardly whimp-out at the Hour of Consequence BoRaGard Oct 25 #28
This is not an election. It's a choice between democracy and fascism, life and death for countless people. usonian Oct 25 #29
That's 144 bucks a year back to me BeyondGeography Oct 25 #30
Bezos can eat my last bowel movement. Basso8vb Oct 25 #31
"Anticipatory obedience" SpankMe Oct 25 #32
What? Which side are u on? onetexan Oct 25 #36
Well, we're losing ground SpankMe Oct 25 #95
You're ill informed onetexan Oct 25 #99
How so? SpankMe Oct 26 #103
Cowards. Cancelling Maeve Oct 25 #33
WTF???😡 onetexan Oct 25 #34
Recognize that this isn't an isolated incident. The same people, same judgement RockRaven Oct 25 #35
I just canceled my subscription Mz Pip Oct 25 #37
Thank you...other DUers and Dems, this how to respond! PortTack Oct 25 #39
Mine goes until March Marigold Oct 25 #57
I wouldn't worry too much about it. Socal31 Oct 25 #98
Seriously BlueInPhilly Oct 25 #38
You're right..but it's the principle. And one has to ask themselves...what's next? Gonna be okay with a fascist prez? PortTack Oct 25 #41
Extraordinary times call for moreland01 Oct 25 #44
It's not about changing minds. There are undecided voters whose minds aren't made up. pnwmom Oct 25 #55
TFG can use this as he used the same LA Times decision, as "proof" that even the left doesn't think much of Kamala (nt) thesquanderer Oct 25 #59
There's no more need for an editorial board.. dchill Oct 25 #42
They are cutting their own throats Zorro Oct 25 #43
And dozens of subscribers have posted on social media that spooky3 Oct 25 #86
Subscription cilla4progress Oct 25 #45
"The reason he cited was to create "independent space" where the newspaper does not tell people for whom to vote" Ray Bruns Oct 25 #48
How can someone be "independent" or neutral to fascism? SunSeeker Oct 25 #76
Murdoch protegee Lewis protecting Donald Wild blueberry Oct 25 #50
Like with the LA Times, the WaPo editorial board had drafted a Harris endorsement. SunSeeker Oct 25 #74
Like WilliamLouis Oct 25 #52
Just canceled my subscription qanda Oct 25 #53
Marty Baron, retired Executive Editor of The Washington Post: demmiblue Oct 25 #54
Canceled my subscription n/t CloudWatcher Oct 25 #56
Of course. When a brown skinned woman Mr. Mustard 2023 Oct 25 #58
Yet another "logical" conclusion to Reagan policy. Ending the Fairness Doctrine lead to this. mjvpi Oct 25 #61
Cowards. Kid Berwyn Oct 25 #62
Here is my cancelation - TBF Oct 25 #63
And then their ridiculous response - TBF Oct 25 #65
Another nail in the coffin for legacy media (n/t) Jon Ace Oct 25 #64
Sure thing WP. Like you have a shred of credibility moniss Oct 25 #66
Surrendering to facism. twodogsbarking Oct 25 #67
I am disappointed in the Post. I will continue to subscribe because their reporting, particularly deep investigations Martin68 Oct 25 #68
Support others instead Marigold Oct 25 #71
No thank you, the post is one of the best sources of international, national and local news (I live in Virginia). Martin68 Oct 25 #81
I'm a Union guy. I thought WaPo was on my side. Tertullian Oct 25 #69
My question: Why all this now? Why not six months ago or earlier? ificandream Oct 25 #70
Like with the LA Times, the WaPo editorial board had drafted a Harris endorsement. SunSeeker Oct 25 #77
A member of the Wash Post editorial department tells me: Bezos's decision not to endorse is "an outrageous abdication of demmiblue Oct 25 #72
Scoop: Washington Post editor at large Robert Kagan confirms to me that he resigned from the Post following today's... demmiblue Oct 25 #73
Makes two editors that have resigned in protest Moebym Oct 25 #92
Like with the LA Times, the WaPo editorial board had drafted a Harris endorsement. SunSeeker Oct 25 #75
A statement from Post Guild leadership on the Washington Post's decision to not endorse a presidential candidate demmiblue Oct 25 #79
Newspapers becoming less and less relevant... Mark.b2 Oct 25 #80
Considering the increasingly limited attention span of many today, BattleRow Oct 25 #85
Houston Chronicle LtTx Oct 25 #82
One million? Moebym Oct 25 #91
It is not LtTx Oct 25 #94
I think my daughter is there - I told her yesterday TBF Oct 25 #97
Anticipatory obeisance right out of the fascist playbook. 🙀 littlemissmartypants Oct 25 #83
Is this the same newspaper... wss2001 Oct 25 #87
Mini update: The furor at the WaPo is such that its chief tech officer is getting engineers to block Qs about its... demmiblue Oct 25 #88
What would these two say? C0RI0LANUS Oct 25 #89
The WaPo Ended its free subs to Federal workers yesterday tonekat Oct 25 #90
The paper that helped break the Pentagon Papers and Watergate MistakenLamb Oct 25 #93
Apparently Amazon prefers unfettered chokepoint capitalism to any semblance of democracy Doctoris Extincti Oct 25 #96
Bezos and others are afraid of Trump. Ilsa Oct 25 #101
So in a contest between American democracy and movement toward total fascism, WaPo stays in the darkness? Taraman Oct 25 #102
Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein used the word "disappointed" for this faux-pas. C0RI0LANUS Oct 27 #104

spooky3

(36,321 posts)
15. Bezos bought them long ago and largely has stayed out
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:16 AM
Oct 25

of operations. This is the first year for this weak, cowardly, and unprincipled decision. However, he surely had a hand in selecting top management and they have trended red.

Farmer-Rick

(11,495 posts)
84. Time to cancel my Prime
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:02 PM
Oct 25

I was thinking of doing it and kind of felt ashamed that I still had a subscription.

Time to cancel Bezos money pot.

cstanleytech

(27,113 posts)
18. More likely he doesn't want to have to finally pay a fair share of taxes.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:18 AM
Oct 25

Mind you, if people like him were true well paying job creators in this country I wouldn't mind but the only jobs they create are low paying ones that drive more and more people every year into poverty

NJCher

(38,080 posts)
6. after your lackluster record
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:05 AM
Oct 25

combined with that of the NY Times, you should definitely make this move. You can avoid embarrassing yourselves because no one would listen to either of you anyway.

moreland01

(834 posts)
40. Me too.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:48 AM
Oct 25

Don't know which direction to go next for daily news, but Im done with WaPo. Did they really think their subscribers wouldn't care?

cilla4progress

(25,968 posts)
47. Try "independent media"
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:57 AM
Oct 25

Like Bryan Tyler Green, Mary Trump, Mueller She Wrote, Meidastouch Toouch network

liberalmuse

(18,876 posts)
10. Hello fascism.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:07 AM
Oct 25

We see you. Fascism couldn’t take over without the complicit press and corporations. This is how it happened in Nazi Germany. The choice of who to endorse couldn’t be any clearer, yet here we are. It takes courage to stand up for what’s right. Cowards! Those of us who love democracy need to demand more from our media. If they fail us, we tune out.

Keepthesoulalive

(708 posts)
21. They are showing you who they are
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:19 AM
Oct 25

Why won’t you believe them? I am canceling my subscription today, I will not support any company that will destroy our democracy by not endorsing the person best suited to lead this country. I was going to wait until after the election but if this is true I’m out.

Freethinker65

(11,150 posts)
22. Let the Post die in darkness
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:19 AM
Oct 25

Obviously the owner has told the editor he is hedging his bets and should Harris lose, the Post intends to be at the trough to scarf up and disseminate any and all of second term President Trump's fascist propaganda.

Marigold

(210 posts)
23. They are all hedging their bets
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:20 AM
Oct 25

In case he wins. Even though these news papers are evil, fake, and failing according to Trump. He always forgives those who recant and later kiss the ring. He loves bringing them to heel.

pat_k

(10,880 posts)
25. Murdoch-ization of the Washington Post
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:20 AM
Oct 25
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/06/03/rupert-murdoch-washington-post-00161279

It's up to We the People to save the country.

The far right may be very loud right now but there are more of us and we are a mighty force.

23:45
We've gotta win this thing for our families, our democracy, our freedoms and our future. . . . We've gotta close here with joy, and confidence, and strength, and power, and not from fear and worry. Fear and worry are what they want. What we want is we close this thing with joy and love of country and love of one another. These are far more powerful emotions than fear and worry.

24:20
Let me say one last thing. . . I want to remind everybody about one of the central reasons that we're all here together at hopium, which is that -- and Joe Biden talked about this in his State of the Union speech this year. He talked about FDR's speech in 1941; FDRs State of the Union address. He talked about how that address was the beginning of the call of America to rally against fascism and rising authoritarianism in wht became the rallying cry tht began to move America into World War II. That speech though was also the speech where FDR laid out his vision of the four freedoms and how he wanted a world that was not base on dominion and control, one country having control over another or one person having control over another. A world based not on dominion, but freedom. And he laid out the Freedom from Want, Freedom from Fear, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of the Press. He laid out these four freedoms for all of us . . . And these four freedoms became the foundation of the modern world. The four freedoms became the basis of the Atlantic Charter that got the United States and the United Kingdom together in 1941, that became the basis of the alliance that won World War II. The four freedoms became the basis of the United Nations Charter in 1945, which laid out an international law, a global system where one nation could not have control of another; dominion over another. And it was the beginningg of the unraveling of all holdings by European powers, their colonial system. FDR forced the unraveling of all that to be consisten with the United Nations view that no nation should have dominion over another. This is part of the the war in Ukraine is about. Russia is trying to go back to a period prior to the United Nations where countries coul have dominion over one another. And then in 1948, negotiated in part by Eleanor Roosevelt, there waas the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which ws the first time in international law individual people had human rights... And that world of freedom -- of these four freedoms, that world of Pax Americana over the last 80 years has created a golden age in human history. There's never been better time to be alive in all of human history that there's been in over these past 80 years. We've seen life expectancy go from 45 years to over 70 years now in the world, we've seen extreme poverty, dispite huge explosion of population, plummet in raw numbers. We've seen more people living under democracy that any time in human history. We've seen more people being literate an being able to read and write. Three times as many people today can do so as a percentage of the population than in the 1940's. Meaning they have more capacity to do and contribute and live out their dreams than anytime before. This has been a golden age in human history.

What's important for us is we get this final fuel to go do the work that we need to do for our country and our democracy and for our kids. We have to remind ourselves that that world - this golden age in human history -- was something that WE did. The Democratic Party of the United States did that. We created a golden age in human history. And it's my view that there has never been an organized force that's done more good for more people than the Democratic Party that we're all part of.

One of the reasons I'm so confident that we're going to prevail here in the next 13 days is that when our party was called in the 1940s, we all answered. We rose to the occasion, and we defeated authoritarianism and fascism then. And what Joe Biden began in his State of the Union speech, he was making a new call asking our party to once again answer a all to defeat fascism here and all around the world; to make sure that freedom continued to prevail over dominion.

The reason I end all of this so confident and so optimistic is because all of you have been answer this call. Millions and millions of Americans have been going to work, donating money, writing postcards -- 80 million postcards are in the process of hitting all across the country -- canvasing every day, texting, phone banking, info warring, working your networks with good informtion. You guys have gone to work, you've answered the call. Millions of you have done this. And the millions of you who have answered this call is more powerful than the dancing dipshits on the other side, right? Let them have Elon Musk and a bunch of these oligarchs. We've got all of you. We're more powerful than they are. And we are doing the work for our democracy...

Do more, worry less...








sarisataka

(21,184 posts)
26. Choosing to not choose is still a choice
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:22 AM
Oct 25

and it is more revealing than if you had the courage to take a stand.

SunSeeker

(53,928 posts)
78. Exactly. WaPo's (Bezos') move to step in and block the draft Harris endorsement was simply reprehensible. nt
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:24 PM
Oct 25

BoRaGard

(2,992 posts)
28. Colossal cowardly whimp-out at the Hour of Consequence
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:23 AM
Oct 25

The Post's chickenshit stance will ruin their reputation for all all time.

Sell outs. No honor. No integrity.

Ain't gonna get any respect.

usonian

(14,297 posts)
29. This is not an election. It's a choice between democracy and fascism, life and death for countless people.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:27 AM
Oct 25


AND I'M NOT GOING TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER 6 MILLION PEOPLE TO DIE
for equivocating morans to find that out.

Dear Equivocating Morans.
Your "independent space" is IN HELL.

On Edit: Neville Chamberlain has a resemblance to Fred .......




SpankMe

(3,279 posts)
32. "Anticipatory obedience"
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:37 AM
Oct 25

Definition: Pulling back from [an] obligation to tell the truth in order to placate the tyrant so he doesn’t come after them.

This is from a Columbia Journalism Review article by Ian Bassin and Maximillian Potter, here.

Such cowardice is unbecoming supposed media "giants".

I wonder if Democrats should be doing the same thing?

SpankMe

(3,279 posts)
95. Well, we're losing ground
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 03:21 PM
Oct 25

Trump and his supporters should be 20% or less of the voter base; they should be a crackpot fringe. Instead, this race appears to be 50-50.

Being nice and adhering to democratic and institutional norms hasn't helped us (Democrats and progressives) gain a clear majority. Conservatives are in total control of a majority of the 50 US states and are implementing a theocratic, authoritarian version of government under a ruling minority. The more power they gain under these principles, the more barriers there are for us to counter it with humanity, decency and democracy and ever gain a leadership mandate again. At some point real soon, they will become permanently in charge and will wield all power necessary - including violence - to force their narrow views on society and suppress dissent or even meek expressions of opposing points of view.

They've already succeeded in nullifying parts of the constitution and are openly trying to alter it to an extent that basically makes liberal ideas - and possibly even liberal people - illegal. Project 2025 tells you most of what you need to know.

We are becoming less of a free and equitable society with each election.

The point of that last comment of my post was to ask if we should start fighting fire with fire instead of responding to authoritarianism with platitudes, "logic", "facts", and compassion - which is clearly not working.

I don't want to live in a country that operates off of an oppressive version of the "Jesus doctrine". But there's no place else to go. People come to America for freedom because almost everywhere else in the world is less free to one degree or another.

This is it. The United States of America - sandwiched between Canada and Mexico - is the end of the line. We have to take back this country using techniques that work. We all won't be able to migrate to New Zealand or Canada if the Orange Asshole® takes over and makes us all illegal. We have to make THIS PLACE work for us and for all.

If you think anything I've said above is hyperbole, you're just not paying attention.

SpankMe

(3,279 posts)
103. How so?
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 11:28 AM
Oct 26

Don't just toss a non-sequitur turd in the pubchbowl. Which aspects of my opinion are ill-informed? On its own, "You're ill informed" is pretty vague and meaningless. Context? Examples? Discussion?

RockRaven

(16,440 posts)
35. Recognize that this isn't an isolated incident. The same people, same judgement
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:45 AM
Oct 25

go into other decisions of what to (not) write and (not) publish in the WaPo. Every day the headlines and stories you see in the WaPo have been shaped by the same people with the same priorities.

So ask yourself: what else are they not telling you? What else are they misrepresenting? How else are they being mewling cowards?

Mz Pip

(27,921 posts)
37. I just canceled my subscription
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:46 AM
Oct 25

It runs until the end of the year, though.

I wish there was a place where I could have written why. Not of the reasons given included my reason.

Marigold

(210 posts)
57. Mine goes until March
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:12 PM
Oct 25

And there is no option to give feedback. Checking off the box "other", hope the coincidence is a clear message. I did however leave a post on their facebook page.

Socal31

(2,490 posts)
98. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 04:07 PM
Oct 25

Any cancellation starting from this morning, thats above the normal "background" cancellation (or failure to renew) rate, will have a huge fuggin arrow on it, pointing to one J. Bezos.

BlueInPhilly

(971 posts)
38. Seriously
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:48 AM
Oct 25

When did a newspaper endorsement change anyone's vote? HRC had like 90% of all newspapers endorsed her. Didn't change the needle. Polls, newspaper endorsements... they are just noise.

PortTack

(34,753 posts)
41. You're right..but it's the principle. And one has to ask themselves...what's next? Gonna be okay with a fascist prez?
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:50 AM
Oct 25

moreland01

(834 posts)
44. Extraordinary times call for
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:53 AM
Oct 25

Extraordinary character. WaPo fell off the fence, in my eyes. Newspapers could help save democracy thru brave reporting and they choose not to? Cowards.

pnwmom

(109,604 posts)
55. It's not about changing minds. There are undecided voters whose minds aren't made up.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:09 PM
Oct 25

And some might be open to ideas clearly, thoughtfully and urgently expressed in an editorial.

thesquanderer

(12,378 posts)
59. TFG can use this as he used the same LA Times decision, as "proof" that even the left doesn't think much of Kamala (nt)
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:13 PM
Oct 25

dchill

(40,643 posts)
42. There's no more need for an editorial board..
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:51 AM
Oct 25

If you're not going to have an opinion, then there's no need for an opinion page.

spooky3

(36,321 posts)
86. And dozens of subscribers have posted on social media that
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:04 PM
Oct 25

They have canceled their subscriptions.

So WaPo’s fate may be sealed earlier rather than later.

Ray Bruns

(4,674 posts)
48. "The reason he cited was to create "independent space" where the newspaper does not tell people for whom to vote"
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:57 AM
Oct 25

Buuuuuullllllssshhhhiiiiitttt!

Wild blueberry

(7,227 posts)
50. Murdoch protegee Lewis protecting Donald
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:01 PM
Oct 25

No surprise. When he was named editor, I cancelled my subscription. WaPo's been heading right-wing ever since.
This is disgusting.

SunSeeker

(53,928 posts)
74. Like with the LA Times, the WaPo editorial board had drafted a Harris endorsement.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:13 PM
Oct 25

Bezos stepped in to block it.

An endorsement of Harris had been drafted by Post editorial page staffers but had yet to be published, according to two sources briefed on the sequence of events who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. The decision not to publish was made by The Post’s owner — Amazon founder Jeff Bezos — according to the same sources.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/10/25/washington-post-endorsement-president/


qanda

(10,424 posts)
53. Just canceled my subscription
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:06 PM
Oct 25

I'm going to divert the funds elsewhere. Starting with renewing my DU membership.

demmiblue

(37,866 posts)
54. Marty Baron, retired Executive Editor of The Washington Post:
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:08 PM
Oct 25
On political endorsement https://wapo.st/3YmeD3T

This is cowardice, with democracy as its casualty. @realdonaldtrump will see this as an invitation to further intimidate owner @jeffbezos (and others). Disturbing spinelessness at an institution famed for courage.



Mr. Mustard 2023

(251 posts)
58. Of course. When a brown skinned woman
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:12 PM
Oct 25

is running against a fascist - suddenly WaPo is silent.

Do not discount the amount of men afraid of women with power. They're weaklings, but unfortunately there are many.

I know, it may be much more than just misogyny, but I think it's not a coincidence either. I'm a white male and still shocked by how many weakling white men are in this country. Those who act "oh so tough" then run to government for hand outs, who whine when they don't get their way and nearly wet themselves when I woman dares tell weaselly men to fuck off.

mjvpi

(1,570 posts)
61. Yet another "logical" conclusion to Reagan policy. Ending the Fairness Doctrine lead to this.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:16 PM
Oct 25

A functioning Fourth Estate is required to maintain a functional democracy. The editorial section should be this sacred place where those who fearlessly report the facts 24 hours a day take the responsibility to come to some conclusions based on those facts. It shouldn’t be the mouthpiece of the owners.

TBF

(34,536 posts)
63. Here is my cancelation -
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:19 PM
Oct 25

They say "thanks for your feedback" - I picked the one about having a problem with their content. They don't actually give you a box to write a comment in. Cowards!



Subscription & Billing
Thanks for your feedback.

We’ve canceled your subscription
You'll continue to have access until November 21, 2024.
Until then, you can reactivate your subscription at any time by visiting your Subscription & Billing page in your account.

TBF

(34,536 posts)
65. And then their ridiculous response -
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:25 PM
Oct 25

"trusted news and analysis" my a**.


We’re sorry to see you go.

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Your Washington Post Basic Subscription has been canceled and your unlimited access will end on November 21st, 2024.

If you’ve changed your mind we’re offering you a discounted rate of $6 every four weeks for the next year when you reactivate your subscription now.

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moniss

(6,021 posts)
66. Sure thing WP. Like you have a shred of credibility
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:29 PM
Oct 25

about this when you spent hour after hour attacking Joe about his age and gave crickets for the other guy. The WP has honestly had little credibility as a journalism endeavor for many years. They know very well the money laundering game on K Street and the rest about most of the typical ways of corruption and the ones involved but they whistle past the graveyard and act as though scum like Tom DeLay are the rare exception. But the WP sold it's soul long ago in order to continue to be invited to the cocktail parties of the movers and shakers so they can be used as stenographers for the agenda of "sources within" this or that agency, office etc. So that internal rot of ethics leads us to where we are today with supposed "journalists" withholding information relevant to criminal investigations and/or an informed public and instead of turning it over they wait to make things public until their book comes out and they can monetize it.

Money grubbing scum with a college degree and a keyboard are still money grubbing scum no matter what, no matter where they go or how they try to dress it a different way.

Martin68

(24,638 posts)
68. I am disappointed in the Post. I will continue to subscribe because their reporting, particularly deep investigations
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:38 PM
Oct 25

into topics such as racial profiling, police abuse of authority, and Trump's fascist tendencies.

Marigold

(210 posts)
71. Support others instead
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:01 PM
Oct 25

The Atlantic is particularly good. They put out a daily newsletter of new articles. And they endorsed Kamala Harris, only endorsing a candidate for the 5th time in their 167 year old history.

Martin68

(24,638 posts)
81. No thank you, the post is one of the best sources of international, national and local news (I live in Virginia).
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:46 PM
Oct 25

As I said, the lack of an endorsement disappoints me, but it is not a deal breaker. The Pot is one of the last real newspapers left in in the country, and their reporting staff is world class.

ificandream

(10,598 posts)
70. My question: Why all this now? Why not six months ago or earlier?
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 12:58 PM
Oct 25

The timing really kills any argument that this was just a simple decision.

SunSeeker

(53,928 posts)
77. Like with the LA Times, the WaPo editorial board had drafted a Harris endorsement.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:22 PM
Oct 25

Bezos stepped in to block it.

An endorsement of Harris had been drafted by Post editorial page staffers but had yet to be published, according to two sources briefed on the sequence of events who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. The decision not to publish was made by The Post’s owner — Amazon founder Jeff Bezos — according to the same sources.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/10/25/washington-post-endorsement-president/

Yup, the timing sends all the wrong messages.

demmiblue

(37,866 posts)
72. A member of the Wash Post editorial department tells me: Bezos's decision not to endorse is "an outrageous abdication of
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:06 PM
Oct 25
A member of the Wash Post editorial department tells me: Bezos's decision not to endorse is "an outrageous abdication of responsibility. Democracy doesn't die in darkness, it dies when people anticipatorily consent to a fascist's whims."



demmiblue

(37,866 posts)
73. Scoop: Washington Post editor at large Robert Kagan confirms to me that he resigned from the Post following today's...
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:09 PM
Oct 25
Opinion staff at WaPo are furious about the paper's endorsement decision. Several are contemplating what action to take, ranging from resigning, quitting the board, or a statement. "If you doin't have the balls to own a newspaper, don't," one Post opinion employee tells me.


Scoop: Washington Post editor at large Robert Kagan confirms to me that he resigned from the Post following today's decision not to endorse in the presidential race.



SunSeeker

(53,928 posts)
75. Like with the LA Times, the WaPo editorial board had drafted a Harris endorsement.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:15 PM
Oct 25

Bezos stepped in to block it.

An endorsement of Harris had been drafted by Post editorial page staffers but had yet to be published, according to two sources briefed on the sequence of events who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. The decision not to publish was made by The Post’s owner — Amazon founder Jeff Bezos — according to the same sources.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/10/25/washington-post-endorsement-president/

demmiblue

(37,866 posts)
79. A statement from Post Guild leadership on the Washington Post's decision to not endorse a presidential candidate
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:32 PM
Oct 25

Mark.b2

(490 posts)
80. Newspapers becoming less and less relevant...
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:34 PM
Oct 25

No one cares what the last few in existence think. Endorsing or not endorsing won’t change one vote at this point, if ever.

BattleRow

(1,221 posts)
85. Considering the increasingly limited attention span of many today,
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:02 PM
Oct 25

I tend to agree.

And although reading the paper was a ritual I grew up with,the metastatic,corporate corruption of the press is disheartening.

Better they be cast into the dustbin of oblivion than continue to infect and proliferate their yellow journalism .

LtTx

(12 posts)
82. Houston Chronicle
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 01:50 PM
Oct 25

endorsed Kamala.

And more than one million people have signed up for her rally here today. People started lining up this morning and the line is huge already. Helps to have Queen Bey!

LtTx

(12 posts)
94. It is not
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:44 PM
Oct 25

Big enough. People started lining up hours ago. The ticket says it doesn't guarantee entrance! I had tickets but gave them to my niece. She is quite a progressive Democrat. She was at a Beto rally a couple of weeks ago (at her college) and got three photos with him.

TBF

(34,536 posts)
97. I think my daughter is there - I told her yesterday
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 03:40 PM
Oct 25

and sent her the invite. She told me this morning she got 2 tickets and was going to find a friend to go along. Her car was gone when I got back from grocery shopping! And yes Beyonce is quite a draw!

Welcome to DU!

wss2001

(81 posts)
87. Is this the same newspaper...
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:06 PM
Oct 25

that published the Pentagon Papers? That broke the Watergate scandal? They are too afraid to make a call of the most consequential election of our time?
They have as much or more to lose if our democracy fails. What cowardice…can we trust the Post anymore? What stories are they burying to save their hides?

demmiblue

(37,866 posts)
88. Mini update: The furor at the WaPo is such that its chief tech officer is getting engineers to block Qs about its...
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:17 PM
Oct 25
Mini update: The furor at the WaPo is such that its chief tech officer is getting engineers to block Qs about its decision to not make an endorsement pm the Post's own AI site search,

This according to internal WP correspondence I've reviewed



C0RI0LANUS

(1,660 posts)
89. What would these two say?
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:31 PM
Oct 25

Bod Woodward and Carl Bernstein at the Washington Post investigating the Watergate Scandal which toppled Republican POTUS Richard M. Nixon.


(Photo: Circa 1973)

tonekat

(2,032 posts)
90. The WaPo Ended its free subs to Federal workers yesterday
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:31 PM
Oct 25

They announced a few weeks ago they would do this.

I can still access the best part. The Comics.

MistakenLamb

(790 posts)
93. The paper that helped break the Pentagon Papers and Watergate
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 02:42 PM
Oct 25

shows its absolute cowardice at our countries greatest trial and shows it revels in wanting to be a relevant to readers now as TV Guide except the TV Guide is more honest. Legacy media wants to die out this way fine, it will just fasten their certain demise. Shame on the billionaire class who owns the media more concerned about their bottom line than a functional Democracy.

Taraman

(398 posts)
102. So in a contest between American democracy and movement toward total fascism, WaPo stays in the darkness?
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 04:58 PM
Oct 25

I need to re-assess my spending. I cannot support this.

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