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mahatmakanejeeves

(61,972 posts)
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 06:29 PM Oct 25

Court rules ballots that arrive late shouldn't be counted despite postmarks

Source: Washington Post

DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA
Court rules ballots that arrive late shouldn’t be counted despite postmarks
The 5th Circuit’s ruling in a Mississippi case could have implications for other states with similar laws.

By Patrick Marley
October 25, 2024 at 6:15 p.m. EDT

A federal appeals court Friday ruled invalid a Mississippi law that allows election officials to count mail ballots that arrive after Election Day as long as they are postmarked by then.

The ruling came less than two weeks before the Nov. 5 presidential election and could have implications for other states with similar laws. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit did not rule on how the state should handle ballots for this election, saying that matter should be addressed later by a trial court judge.

The Mississippi case is one front in a legal battle over voting rules and which ballots to count. Most of the fights have concentrated on the policies in battleground states like Pennsylvania and Georgia, but the Mississippi case showed that disputes can surface even in reliably Republican places. … Mississippi allows mail ballots to be counted if they arrive up to five days after Election Day and are postmarked by then. Seventeen other states and D.C. have similar laws.but

The Republican National Committee sued over the Mississippi law in January, arguing that elections must be completed by Election Day because Congress has set a specific day for the election. A district court upheld the law in July, saying states could set their own policies on mail ballots.

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By Patrick Marley
Patrick Marley writes about voting issues in the Upper Midwest for The Washington Post. He previously covered the Wisconsin Capitol for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.follow on X @patrickdmarley

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/25/late-ballots-fifth-circuit-mississippi/

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Court rules ballots that arrive late shouldn't be counted despite postmarks (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Oct 25 OP
There ya go Mississippi current veterans over seas. LakeArenal Oct 25 #1
This is also the case in Colorado. CrispyQ Oct 25 #2
Giving the USPO 5 days to deliver because of possible delays seems reasonable. Freethinker65 Oct 25 #3
Fifth circuit as usual PSPS Oct 25 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Oct 25 #6
DeJoy will muck things up to guarantee rainy Oct 25 #5
But late tax returns are OK. Grins Oct 25 #7
Voting isn't the same as filing a tax return. CrispyQ Oct 26 #9
Receiving it on time is. Grins Oct 27 #11
We need federal standards for all federal elections. travelingthrulife Oct 26 #8
This!! So much this. CrispyQ Oct 26 #10

CrispyQ

(38,717 posts)
2. This is also the case in Colorado.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 06:48 PM
Oct 25

Postmarks don't count!! Ballots must be received by 7PM on Election Day.

Freethinker65

(11,165 posts)
3. Giving the USPO 5 days to deliver because of possible delays seems reasonable.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 06:50 PM
Oct 25

What about weather events, etc.

SCOTUS rescued Bush well after Election Day. Certification takes time anyway.

Response to PSPS (Reply #4)

Grins

(7,970 posts)
7. But late tax returns are OK.
Fri Oct 25, 2024, 11:01 PM
Oct 25

The IRS will accept filings anytime (even YEARS) after the 15th of April without penalty - as long as it is postmarked on or before the 15th.

And a federal court can’t understand something as basic as that…

CrispyQ

(38,717 posts)
9. Voting isn't the same as filing a tax return.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 10:17 AM
Oct 26

IRS agents can take their time. Counting votes needs to be completed promptly. If the voter wants their ballot included with the results it's on them to get it to the election office on time. If you use the mail, you take a risk, especially since we all know about issues with the USPS. Colorado has a gold standard electoral process & they still require all ballots be at an election office or voting site by 7 PM on Election Day. Postmarks don't count.

IMO, it's not unreasonable to ask voters to take some responsibility for getting their vote counted, like keeping their registration current. In 2004, we had people come in to vote who hadn't voted in years & were surprised they weren't in the poll book. There's a reason why VP Harris says plan how you're going to vote.

travelingthrulife

(1,096 posts)
8. We need federal standards for all federal elections.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 08:25 AM
Oct 26

Standardized rules for basic fairness everywhere. Provide that basic funding and if the states want to spend extra money to rat-fuck their citizens they can have at it.

CrispyQ

(38,717 posts)
10. This!! So much this.
Sat Oct 26, 2024, 10:23 AM
Oct 26

It's undemocratic that it's easier to vote in some states than others!!

In CO, you can register to vote on Election Day. How easy is that? And all our elections are vote-by-mail but we still have a few voting centers open for those who like voting in person & those who are registering & voting on Election Day. I'm sorry it's not that easy for the rest of you!

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