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BumRushDaShow

(144,203 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 06:37 PM Oct 27

Hochul says Trump's Madison Square Garden rally is a 'white flag of surrender'

Source: The Hill

10/27/24 2:49 PM ET


New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) said she thinks the Madison Square Garden rally former President Trump is hosting Sunday is a “white flag of surrender.”

“I think he’s waving the white flag of surrender,” Hochul said Sunday on MSNBC’s “The Weekend.” “He’s coming back to a city that he knows well. He’s comfortable here. Maybe he’d like to sleep in his own bed.”

Hochul contrasted Trump’s rally with Vice President Harris’s itinerary. She’s campaigning in the critical battleground state of Pennsylvania. Trump will be going to his “known, familiar” environment, but it won’t serve him on the campaign trail, Hochul argued.

“He’s giving up, because why else would you come to New York City? You are not going to find undecided voters walking the streets of Manhattan today.”

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4955966-hochul-trump-madison-square-garden-rally-white-flag-of-surrender/

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Hochul says Trump's Madison Square Garden rally is a 'white flag of surrender' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 27 OP
More like a white hood of surrender. Ocelot II Oct 27 #1
Kicked off by a deeply unfunny racist warmup act pat_k Oct 27 #3
Hear, hear - Gov. Hochul's was a very generous interpretation peppertree Oct 27 #12
More like a white hood of defiance, IMHO.... Jack Valentino Oct 27 #18
Chef's kiss! Nt spooky3 Oct 27 #32
The last Red Meat Supper! nt Mopar151 Oct 27 #2
Even worse than the historic Nazi rally Blue Owl Oct 27 #4
I think she may be underestimating the support. At least I sincerely hope so. nt Evolve Dammit Oct 27 #5
New York doesn't like the vile thing. We know him too well. Scrivener7 Oct 27 #7
Right on. Drum Oct 27 #8
Absolutely! Jrsygrl96 Oct 27 #17
This isn't just MSG. It is being broadcast to all 50 states on MSM Evolve Dammit Oct 27 #6
That's good for us. For a change. Scrivener7 Oct 27 #9
not sure about that. There are millions that eat this Nazi shit up. Evolve Dammit Oct 27 #10
I'd like to liberalgunwilltravel Oct 27 #16
I agree with you. Jit423 Oct 27 #22
He's comfortable here. Maybe he'd like to sleep in his own bed! 3825-87867 Oct 27 #11
The only bed he deserves DENVERPOPS Oct 27 #13
Damn straight 3auld6phart Oct 27 #25
Oh, please... slightlv Oct 27 #35
Sorry 3auld6phart Oct 28 #40
And the gold crapper Zambero Oct 27 #21
that's about right Layzeebeaver Oct 28 #39
' You are not going to find undecided voters walking the streets of Manhattan today."' elleng Oct 27 #14
Fascism on full display. Aussie105 Oct 27 #15
but just look at the coverage..across all states..hes just wanting to be seen samnsara Oct 27 #19
They're going to wish no one had ever seen this. Ligyron Oct 27 #28
The only politician to lose his own hometown multigraincracker Oct 27 #20
* lose Skittles Oct 27 #23
Thanks. Fixed. multigraincracker Oct 27 #24
I was surprised to see Malania with him..she didn't have to travel far Deuxcents Oct 27 #26
I will grant her this: she knows how to get under his skin. Those comments will RockRaven Oct 27 #27
Time wasted there is fine. ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 27 #29
No good reason to go into solid blue New York HereForTheParty Oct 27 #30
Maybe, maybe not Roxi Oct 27 #31
He went home to grab his binkie and blankie. sheshe2 Oct 27 #33
We should be so lucky ailsagirl Oct 27 #34
Definitely white relayerbob Oct 27 #36
The problem is that most people were not alive (or were very young) when MSG had its Nazi Rally Metaphorical Oct 28 #37
Crowd Numbers? SomewhereInTheMiddle Oct 28 #38
More like the Nazi flag of hate. Novara Oct 28 #41

peppertree

(22,850 posts)
12. Hear, hear - Gov. Hochul's was a very generous interpretation
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 07:28 PM
Oct 27

Last edited Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Who seriously doubts that Jabba-the-Trump was deliberately trying to recreate the 1939 Nazi Bund rally?

Least of all - a New Yorker who should know better.

Jack Valentino

(1,510 posts)
18. More like a white hood of defiance, IMHO....
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:37 PM
Oct 27

or perhaps an orange hood--- bah.

If he wants to waste time in New York, I salute him! jajajajajaja

Jrsygrl96

(194 posts)
17. Absolutely!
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:33 PM
Oct 27

Too many New Yorkers are aware of his slumlord days and using union workers and then not paying the contractors. The hatred goes back decades!!!!!

Jit423

(429 posts)
22. I agree with you.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:54 PM
Oct 27

What is repeated often gets rewarded. This Maga cult is a self-flagellating, self-aggrandizing, ignorant group of dangerous bigots who despise women and people of color and anyone who would dare to embrace our humanity. They are responsible for the sense of dread and depression that fills the atmosphere around us all.

3825-87867

(1,152 posts)
11. He's comfortable here. Maybe he'd like to sleep in his own bed!
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 07:26 PM
Oct 27
He's comfortable here. Maybe he'd like to sleep in his own bed!

Does she mean beside a rolled up magazine and copy of Hitler's Speeshes with Mein Kampf tucked between his...?
Is she audtioning for a job at the Times or Post?
Or maybe as a contributor to Fox?

DENVERPOPS

(10,147 posts)
13. The only bed he deserves
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 07:38 PM
Oct 27

is one in Colorado SuperMax. Where we would never hear from him ever again because they are not allowed any form of outside communications what so ever.....................No internet, no cell phone, no tweeting or texting, no visitors, no contact with other prisoners, ........ no nothing.........Absolutely no way for his Trumphumpers to contact him, and no way for him to contact his Trumphumpers......

3auld6phart

(1,304 posts)
25. Damn straight
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:05 PM
Oct 27

Florence Super Max. I’ve posted this way back . They would save coin on. secret Service Guards.. A big win or Leavenworth military prison . vote BLUE all the way.

slightlv

(4,441 posts)
35. Oh, please...
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:22 PM
Oct 27

don't wish him here to Leavenworth! There'd be a constant string of protestors and rabble rousers all up and down Metropolitan Avenue, and I only live a few blocks from there!

Layzeebeaver

(1,877 posts)
39. that's about right
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 03:48 AM
Oct 28

he'll never go to prison. maybe house arrest.

only poor people go to actual prison.

Aussie105

(6,467 posts)
15. Fascism on full display.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:13 PM
Oct 27

Voices of HATE from members of an imploding cult.
Unbridled, desperate.
Voices of frustrated old white men who promised themselves unachievable levels of power and influence.

It will only serve to spread the disgust NY feels towards Trump and his followers to the rest of the country.

Ligyron

(7,910 posts)
28. They're going to wish no one had ever seen this.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:11 PM
Oct 27

Even the organizers I would bet are cringing at the racist jokes and nutball christian garbage. Even the nazi crowd had a hard time laughing at some of it.

This won't play well in Preoria.

Skittles

(160,304 posts)
23. * lose
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:56 PM
Oct 27

(loose is like, for example, these pants are too big, they are loose around my waist)

and damn straight, he DID lose his home state because those folk were already on to him and his corrupt ways, yes INDEED

RockRaven

(16,528 posts)
27. I will grant her this: she knows how to get under his skin. Those comments will
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:11 PM
Oct 27

cause some rage-posting, if or when he hears about them.

Roxi

(2,162 posts)
31. Maybe, maybe not
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:33 PM
Oct 27

I read somewhere that he’s hoping to incite violence (again) by riling up his most ardent supporters there tonight.

They’re going to leave that rally absolutely convinced that he’s going to win, and when he doesn’t, they’re going to be out for blood.

The rest of the world, meanwhile, is watching in horror at that disgusting display of hatred.

sheshe2

(88,147 posts)
33. He went home to grab his binkie and blankie.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:40 PM
Oct 27

His brand (hate and fear) isn’t selling anymore.He knows he has lost and is going down in flames. 🔥

ailsagirl

(23,865 posts)
34. We should be so lucky
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:57 PM
Oct 27

Somehow, i don't think that our party will get off that easy. It's as if we're sitting on a powder keg-- Hope I'm wrong.

Metaphorical

(2,345 posts)
37. The problem is that most people were not alive (or were very young) when MSG had its Nazi Rally
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 12:09 AM
Oct 28

Part of the reason that he can do what he does is that most people don't really know what the Nazis were. World War II was eighty years ago (hell, Vietnam was sixty). For too many people alive today, a Nazi is just a particularly repellent form of cosplay.

38. Crowd Numbers?
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:50 AM
Oct 28

I have not seen any reports on the crowd size, but I wonder if his people booked him there with the thought of playing to a packed house, and one that might have emotional value to Trump.

The thing about New York is that it has so many people that even if only a tiny fraction care enough about Trump to come to the event it might still be enough to fill the arena.

That and it is easy for the media to get there and cover it. As others have pointed out, he was not just playing to the Manhattan crowd, but the whole country via the media. More coverage than if he had made the same speech in Harrisburg or Erie. Which, knowing him, he probably has.

I would love if this was his last hurrah. It would make me very happy. But I somehow doubt that will be the case.

Get out the vote!

Novara

(6,115 posts)
41. More like the Nazi flag of hate.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 11:18 AM
Oct 28

It's the most blatant hate rally he's held, and that is saying something.

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