Trump says 'war hawk' Liz Cheney should be fired upon in escalation of violent rhetoric against his opponents

[pnwmom]

Source: CNN

Donald Trump said former Rep. Liz Cheney is a "war hawk" who should be fired upon, as he raged against one of his most prominent intra-party critics while campaigning Thursday night in Arizona.

"She's a radical war hawk. Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?" the former president said at a campaign event in Glendale with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. "Let's see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face."

Trump also hurled insults at Cheney, once the third-ranking Republican in House leadership, calling her "very dumb," a "stupid person" and "the moron."

Trump's suggestion that Cheney be fired upon represents an escalation of the violent language he has used to target his political foes. And it comes days before an election in which the former president -- who never accepted his 2020 loss -- has already undermined public confidence. In recent weeks, he has also suggested a military crackdown on political opponents he has described as "the enemy within."

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/01/politics/donald-trump-liz-cheney-war-hawk-battle/index.html

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And from the NYTimes:

Mr. Trump's violent hypothetical came as he has recently intensified the dark and at times threatening language he uses toward his political opponents. The former president, whose lie that he won the 2020 election spurred some of his supporters to storm the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, once again on Thursday referred to a pernicious "enemy within" that needed to be addressed. He has previously described his enemies as "vermin" that needed to be rooted out. (Ms. Cheney was the top Republican on the House committee that investigated Mr. Trump's role in the Capitol riot.)

His language reflects the charged environment surrounding this year's election. Democrats and some Republicans have increasingly warned that Mr. Trump exhibits authoritarian tendencies, with Ms. Harris recently calling him a "fascist." Mr. Trump and his allies have argued that such language has fueled an overheated political climate that they argue has led to political violence, ignoring that Mr. Trump has long used similar language to describe Democrats.

Throughout Thursday night's interview, Mr. Trump's third event of the day, he gave a series of rambling answers in which he flung personal insults at his critics, at one point relived his 2016 presidential campaign and used dark language to make exaggerated claims about immigration.

. . . .“If Ronald Reagan came back from the dead — at the height of Ronald Reagan, if he went to California to have a rally, he would have 250, 300 people in a ballroom some place,” Mr. Trump told the crowd. “We have fifty, sixty, seventy, eighty, ninety, a hundred thousand people.” .

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/01/us/politics/trump-liz-cheney-tucker-carlson.html

[SunSeeker]

1. He's a sick fuck. nt

[C_U_L8R]

2. Trump needs to go hunting

with her Dad.

[Trueblue1968]

43. It is time to french revolution trump. Bring the guillotine !!!!!

[JohnSJ]

3. The Drudge Report Headline: "Trump calls for Cheney's execution" with a link to the twitter quote:

"Trump on Liz Cheney: "Let's put her with a rifle standing there with 9 barrels shooting at her. Let's see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face."

Link to tweet

MSNBC "way too early is covering this, and Morning Joe is starting right now, and highlights the Drudge Report "trump calls for Cheney execution"

This should be the headline on every MSM newspaper outlet.

and to think that Jeff Bezo and the owner of the LA Times won't let their editorial staff make a presidential endorsement, knowing that each editorial's staff was ready with a VP Kamala Harris endorsement.

These two newspaper's owners are morally bankrupt.

This should disqualify him right now. The weekend before the general election.

In 2016 the weekend before the general election, after an entire week of parading every right wing pundit across the MSM outlets pushing the LIE that the email investigation was reopened, and when late Friday the weekend before the 2016 general election, Comey quietly came out and said there was no NEW information to reopen the email investigation, which the this same MSM who had been pushing the "email investigation" LIE 24/7, hardly mentioned Comey's remarks that there was no new information.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

5. Bezos thinking cowardice & appeasement will help him is stupider than even tRump

Bezos intervened. If he had kept his hands off, WaPo would have calmly and ordinarily and without fuss made an endorsement, perhaps an emphatic one, but still only a newspaper endorsement.

[jmowreader]

49. "Terrified" may be a better term than "morally bankrupt"

Trump is running to become America’s first tyrannical despot. The owners of the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times know this better than you do - after all, they have access to the AP wire. (I have seen the AP wire because I work for a newspaper. If everything on it was put in a newspaper we’d have to give out free forklifts with every subscription so the readers could bring their newspaper inside.)

Who the hell would be able to stop him if Trump decided to round up everyone working at a newspaper and have them executed for the crime of working for a paper? They say absolute power corrupts absolutely and Trump is already as corrupt as any third world dictator. Besides, what the hell good would endorsing Harris do? She’s already going to win LA and DC.

[democrank]

4. Donald Trump is beyond UN-American.

He’s a danger to the entire world.

[yellowcanine]

6. If he is POTUS and he orders it...

SCOTUS says it is ok.

[yellowcanine]

7. October Surprise? Not really.

There might be 5 people who are surprised.

[ShazzieB]

34. Like everyone else here, i am not surprised.

But I am disturbed. His rhetoric is getting darker and scarier every day. He's always been big on threatening people, of course, but he didn't always paint such vividly graphic scenarios as this. This feels very different to me from telling people to go to the Capitol and "fight like hell," for example.

I see this as further evidence of his deteriorating cognitive state. He's clearly exhibiting disinhibition due to in his dementia. It may not be quite as obvious with him as it would be with some people, because we're so used to him saying outrageous things, but to me, this dramatic, detailed description of a specific individual facing a firing squad is a whole different level of outrageous.

The GOP should be deeply ashamed of the way they are enabling this profoundly mentally ill individual to endanger the future of this country while making a public display of his illness in the process. Unfortunately, the party seems to have lost any capacity for shame. Smdh

[Martin Eden]

8. The Fascist Grifter has disqualified himself a thousand times over

The fact that he still polls in the high 40's despite inciting an insurrection, felony convictions, endless lies, racism, Nazi rhetoric, incoherent rambling, and so many from his own administration warning he is a threat to our Constitution and dangerously unfit for office ......

That will be to the everlasting shame of American voters and a media environment which put profits ahead of responsibility to accurately inform.

[SimplyHadEnough]

22. Excellent post Martin Eden

Do you mind if I repost this with credit to you?

[Martin Eden]

36. Sure, have at it.

I should have included adjudicated rapist.

[yellowcanine]

9. Fidel Castro endorses this.

He knew that there was no political problem which couldn't be so loved by a firing squad.

[yellowcanine]

10. At least he didn't call her "garbage." No one shoots garbage

[chouchou]

11. What!! "Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?"

Jesus Christ! You can't threaten people with death, just because you don't like what they say.
OK...you can if you're a long gone Nut-Job.

[Ellipsis]

12. Threatening Dick Cheneys daughter doesn't strike me as a good idea.

[Seinan Sensei]

23. Dick Cheney will shoot YOU in the face

Ask Harry Whittington

[Kid Berwyn]

13. A felon out on bail wants to murder women and zip from the media.

That’s why he can shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and get away with it.

[Chakaconcarne]

17. Is on CNN's front page.

[Kid Berwyn]

18. Thanks! NBC and ABC, too.

CBS, not yet.

Guess the mainstream media is not so bad after all.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

31. That's especially true if he regains the presidency with presidential immunity. nt

[3825-87867]

14. He will protect women whether they like it or not...

unless they say or do something he doesn't like.
Kinda sounds like a nazi dick-tater.

[Clouds Passing]

15. Dump is one sick human. He's speaking as if he has fantasies of murdering others.

That’s called a serial killer. He’s a serial sexist, a serial racist, a serial thief, a serial rapist, a serial liar, a serial conman, and because of his actions during Covid, a serial murderer.

[Chakaconcarne]

16. This sounds like a candidate that knows he's losing and wants to cause as much harm and chaos as possible.

And with those terms being thrown out into the world, would certainly make it difficult for SS to parse out real threats.

[Javaman]

19. the old saying of trump shooting someone and no one caring...

the old saying that if the orange asshole shot someone on 5th avenue, no one would care.

1) he's too much of a coward to shoot anyone let alone hold a weapons (5 bone spur deferments prove that)

2) he would have one of his minions do it and then say, I had nothing to do with it, all the while egging the guy on.

3) he now unleashes is hit squads out to settle his scores because knows he's going to lose the election, but damn, he still wants his revenge.

[FakeNoose]

44. It's really not an "old saying"

It's Chump's unfounded claim that has never been proved one way or the other, because it has never happened.

[twodogsbarking]

20. I think there is sufficient evidence to charge Trump with terroristic threats. That is a crime, isn't it?

[David Boyle]

50. Indeed

Sounds like it, or similar. Osama bin Trump, I'm tempted to say?

[Gore1FL]

21. I really need popcorn to watch these assholes fight each other. nt

[FakeNoose]

45. Who is fighting Chump? I didn't hear anyone disagree with him

Some weirdos in Montana are cleaning their guns right now.

[Gore1FL]

46. Cheney opposes Trump. That's why he is so "triggered." nt

[musclecar6]

24. He is

So arrogant that he’s not hiding anything anymore. I’ve said it over and over that ever since I heard him start in with his nonsense nine years ago, this guy wants to be a modern day Adolf Hitler.

By now anyone with half a brain should be able to see that. If you can’t see it now, the main impediment outside of possibly low intelligence, is your ego won’t let you admit what an absolutely dangerous person this man is.

In my opinion, if he loses the election with all of his outrageous behavior, especially as of late, the judge and or judges who sentence this guy should send him, just like any other person that’s behaved the way he has, in determining his sentence, to prison. What the judge should not do, is cut him a deal just because he was president at one time.

[ShazzieB]

39. I'm no longer sure he belongs in prison (please hear me out before piling on, lol).

He absolutely needs to be locked up, but I think he belongs in a maximum-security forensic psychiatric hospital, rather than a regular prison, because he clearly has a terminal psychiatric disease (dementia) that requires medical treatment and will only get worse until he dies.

Yes, he's committed serious crimes, and he was capable of understanding what he was doing at the time he did those things, but he is going to reach a point where he will no longer be capable of comprehending what he did wrong or why he should be punished, and he is already at a stage where his behavior and ability to function even semi-independently are deteriorating as we speak. We don't know how much help he already needs to perform the activities of daily living (i.e. dressing and feeding himself, bathing, going to the bathroom, etc.), but whatever level he's at now, it's just a matter of time before he becomes incapable of doing anything for himself.

I know some will probably think I'm being too "soft" on him, but I don't really care. He has a terminal disease that has already robbed him of much of his cognitive ability as well as his ability to control his own behavior, and it's eventually going to rob him of his ability to do anything for himself at all. What I'm suggesting is not just for his benefit, but for the befit of the staff of whatever prison he would otherwise be sent to. Person guards can't be expected to feed him, dress him, and change his diapers when he's no longer able to do those things for himself. That's not in their job description or their expected skill set. To me, it just makes sense to send him directly to a facility that is equipped to handle those things and to administer the medical care he is going to require eventually. He'll never get out out, because he'll never get better, and he won't like it any more he would like being on a prison cell.

To anyone who thinks he's faking all of this stuff in order to avoid going to jail, I have this to say: poppycock. He isn't nearly smart enough to engineer all of this, and the idea of of him being willing to publicly admit that he's defective in any way is laughable. He'll probably continue to insist that he's a "very stable genius to the bitter end.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

42. I fantasize about him having a shock collar and a publicized 1-800 number to control it, but ...

I cannot, with clear conscience, argue against your points.

traitortrump is still mostly connected to this reality at this time, so we should hurry the trials along before he needs the facility and treatment you describe.

[Rocknation]

54. I think he's faking -- I think he still has enough brains (and ego) to know the difference

between leaving this world as a convicted felon and as a law-abiding victim of terminal illness or natural causes.


Rocknation

[bluestarone]

25. Time for another huge DEFAMATION lawsuit?

I think so!

[Farmer-Rick]

32. Defamation? More like solicitation of violence.

This needs to be prosecuted immediately. It's solicitation of a violent crime.

You cannot ask someone to shoot at someone else. That's like hiring a hit man or asking a hit man to kill your enemy. It's illegal.

Cheney needs to contact the DA of that state and get them to bring charges. This is straight up illegal.

Do you think if I spoke at an event and said that Trump needs to be shot at and rifles should be pointed in his face, that I wouldn't be charged? No way I wouldn't be seeing the inside of a jail.

Man oh man, we really have acclimated to Trump asking for violence and murder.

Check out 18 U.S. Code § 373 - Solicitation to commit a crime of violence

[Upthevibe]

26. pnwmom.........

NO WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Silent Type]

27. Pence should have put trump in front of a firing squad on Jan 6.

[PortTack]

28. Maybe he should sue her for 10 billion

[generalbetrayus]

29. "very dumb," a "stupid person" and "the moron."

There you go again, DonOld, projecting.

[Farmer-Rick]

30. Wow, that's straight up illegal

You can't solicit a crime of violence.

"Whoever, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony that has as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against property or against the person of another in violation of the laws of the United States, and under circumstances strongly corroborative of that intent, solicits, commands, induces, or otherwise endeavors to persuade such other person to engage in such conduct, shall be imprisoned."

18 U.S. Code § 373 - Solicitation to commit a crime of violence

Trump needs to be prosecuted. You can not solicit violence and shooting at a person. It's like trying to hire a hit man.

[red dog 1]

33. What a horrible thing to say!

VonShitzInPantz is a truly horrible person, and he must be defeated next Tuesday.

[get the red out]

35. And here we are

He wants rule by fear like his buddy Vlad, as we know, and we are going to have a problem getting this out of our political system post Trump.

[yardwork]

37. This is appalling.

[Hekate]

38. Someone has to stop this madman. Blue Wave, here we come.

[hueymahl]

40. Politics makes strange bedfellows

The Cheneys are no friends to Democrats or any reasonable person. Describing her in front of a firing squad is repugnant, don't get me wrong. But I still hate they are associated with us.

[msfiddlestix]

41. I'm pretty sure he just committed a felony offense routinely resulting in an immediate arrest

An arrest with no bail.
But of course, he's above that law too, obviously. SCOTUS would probably rule in favor of an immediate dismissal. something about immunity.

[BattleRow]

47. Gives grave new meaning to his catchphrase..you're fired.

..upon.

I want HIM to get the pink slip on Nov 5..national garbage day.

Trumpster Dumpster day.

[kimbutgar]

48. I've been saying for weeks now he is imploding and will get even more crueler

He knows he’s losing and wont be able to use his “ the election was rigged” bs to try to overturn the election. I feel a massive 1964 type blowout.

And I expect he’ll get even more dangerous and call for more assassinations of his perceived political enemies.

[David Boyle]

51. Arizona AG is looking into it

"Arizona's top prosecutor investigating Trump's comments about Cheney as possible death threat", https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/75-91f8b734-06eb-4aeb-a633-89be0df7c4c4 .

Linked at top of Drudge in red.

[pnwmom]

53. Thank you! And welcome to D.U., David Boyle! I just posted this in News, too,

so it will get more notice.

[David Boyle]

55. Thanks for your welcome!

[dai13sy]

52. There is absolutely no reason Dumb-Ass Dump should be criticizing anyone especially Liz Cheney. She's got more knowledge

and integrity than Dump will ever know. And why is he committing a crime and getting away with it. You don't get to say someone should be murdered and get away with it. Pretty sure that's some serious big-house time in solitary or hopefully the chair

[bucolic_frolic]

56. He is admitting he intends to surrender to Putin without a fight.

[Bird Lady]

57. Donnie boy should remember...

Her father shot someone in the face. Before he threatens Liz again.
I know that was considered an accident but it never made any sense to me.
We didn't call him Darth Vader for nothing.

[Picaro]

58. His bail should be revoked