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BumRushDaShow

(143,436 posts)
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 07:31 AM Nov 3

Trump says it's 'tough' for Republicans to win the popular vote

Source: The Hill

11/02/24 7:58 PM ET


Former President Trump argued that Republicans winning the popular vote is “tough” because of Democratic strength in certain strongholds ahead of Election Day on Tuesday.

Trump said at a rally in Virginia that votes need to turn out on Tuesday because he wants to win “everything,” including the popular vote. But he said states like California make winning the popular vote tough.

“When you have New York, Illinois and California, you have automatically, it’s like ridiculous, automatically goes to a Democrat, it’s tough to win the popular vote because they’re three big states,” he said.

While Trump won the presidency in 2016, he was unsuccessful in winning the popular vote that year against Hillary Clinton or in 2020 against President Biden. Democrats have won the popular vote in the past five of six presidential elections going back to 2000, though Republicans have won in the Electoral College three of those times.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4967885-trump-republicans-popular-vote/

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Trump says it's 'tough' for Republicans to win the popular vote (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 3 OP
tough to win the popular vote when your policies stink rurallib Nov 3 #1
Policies? GB_RN Nov 3 #26
just couldn't think of another word rurallib Nov 3 #27
My Bad. GB_RN Nov 3 #30
Sorry - not mad at you - just couldn't come up with a word rurallib Nov 3 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author ArkansasDemocrat1 Nov 3 #28
amen, brother! Conjuay Nov 3 #58
It is tough to win when the majority of people hate you Joe Cool Nov 3 #2
Exactly. When they're not actually popular MaryMagdaline Nov 3 #16
Being an adjuctaced rapist and convicted felon with a record of abusing workers and women doesn't help either Attilatheblond Nov 3 #38
Nope! Sure doesn't MaryMagdaline Nov 3 #40
Have policies that people like.... JT45242 Nov 3 #3
tough to win the popular vote when you are unpopular bucolic_frolic Nov 3 #4
Don't worry, Donald. Even when you don't win, you can always start suing everyone. Midnight Writer Nov 3 #5
How soon should I expect the lawsuit? durablend Nov 3 #18
Better to be sued than to be "rounded up" as an Enemy of the People. Midnight Writer Nov 3 #20
It's actually worse moose65 Nov 3 #6
They don't need a clue, they have the Electoral College underpants Nov 3 #51
Yup, but add the EC to the list of things that The DonOld apparently doesn't understand William Seger Nov 3 #69
He also said, in '16, that it was easier to win by popular vote, so Mc Mike Nov 3 #7
So by his logic, since he WOULD have won, he DID win. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 3 #39
'We were getting ready to win, and in fact, we DID win.' Mc Mike Nov 3 #44
I Woulda Won!! smb Nov 3 #65
He's the world's greatest salesman. If he'd wanted it, he wanted it he OBVIOUSLY would have done it. underpants Nov 3 #52
Abolish the EC darnit! Karma13612 Nov 3 #8
Yes, and someone needs to tell The DonOld that he can get votes from those states if we do William Seger Nov 3 #70
Of course it's hard to be popular when the only qualities the GOP has is selfishness, cruelty and hate. nt Hotler Nov 3 #9
Gosh. People don't like what you're selling? Novara Nov 3 #10
Huh? The size of states determines the popular vote? Raven123 Nov 3 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author ArkansasDemocrat1 Nov 3 #31
But for the EC Icanthinkformyself Nov 3 #12
Heck, the last time the White House passed from a Democratic administration to a Republican one... JHB Nov 3 #47
Rocknation Says It's 'IMPOSSIBLE' for ANYONE To Win A Popular Vote Rocknation Nov 3 #13
It's EASY to figure out why Zambero Nov 3 #14
Better explanations are available. nt BootinUp Nov 3 #15
Poor babies ... they have the EC advantage and that's not enough for them MaryMagdaline Nov 3 #17
I'm surprised at the admission. Trump's usual stance is that millions of undocumented immigrants were bussed in to Martin68 Nov 3 #19
Oh WAAH WAAH WAAH!... unbelievable Montauk6 Nov 3 #21
When is he going to admit that the only reason he won in 2016 FakeNoose Nov 3 #22
Add to that BumRushDaShow Nov 3 #23
Sounds like they're starting to make excuses for not winning oldmanlynn Nov 3 #24
Said the guy who KNOWS you don't have to win the popular vote. Grins Nov 3 #25
He's talking as if NY/IL/CA are all-or-nothing. That's true for electoral college but NOT for popular vote. thesquanderer Nov 3 #29
I thought he won California? tulipsandroses Nov 3 #32
"His words" tend to be lies. He finds it nearly impossible to be truthful. n/t Eyeball_Kid Nov 3 #35
By definition popular vote is just that - everyone TBF Nov 3 #33
That's what the southern slave states thought too ToxMarz Nov 3 #34
He doesn't seem to even know what the "popular vote" means. AnnaLee Nov 3 #36
Demographics Change MissouriDem47 Nov 3 #37
the EC must be scrapped 4catsmom Nov 3 #41
It is even tougher when they have and orange A-O, rapist, convicted felon as a candidate. republianmushroom Nov 3 #42
Yes, because no one wants to be ruled by a tyrannical party drunk with power. Initech Nov 3 #43
Because nobody with a functioning brain likes you Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 3 #45
Yeah. The American people disagree with the GOP Tweedy Nov 3 #48
That means the majority of the people to not like your dumb ass. It sucks that imaginary lines mean more than people. OverBurn Nov 3 #49
Because MeNotThatKindOfOrc Nov 3 #50
The idea of he or any Republican winning the national vote is ridiculous underpants Nov 3 #53
Since the late 60s, Nixon & Reagan committed treason, SC elected Bush jr Clouds Passing Nov 3 #54
Trump says something stupid AGAIN??? AZ8theist Nov 3 #55
Captain Obvious IbogaProject Nov 3 #56
Maybe they should nominate candidates with a broader appeal, and develop a more acceptable platform. patphil Nov 3 #57
Whenever a republican tells me we need term limits, Emile Nov 3 #59
Yes, dipshit, people live in places JoseBalow Nov 3 #60
"Abolish the EC darnit!" J_William_Ryan Nov 3 #61
,,,,, ailsagirl Nov 3 #62
It's almost as though most people think Repuke policies are shit! sakabatou Nov 3 #63
That's why they have to cheat. Turbineguy Nov 3 #64
As a percentage of the total US population, there are fewer poorly educated white males every year. Shermann Nov 3 #66
He's right. Republicans do better in a system where some people's votes count more than others. D23MIURG23 Nov 3 #67
And after '16 he acted like he had a mandate. Fool! Sneederbunk Nov 3 #68
If your "policies" and "positions" suck ass, then guess what? YOU DON'T GET TO WIN 4lbs Nov 3 #71

GB_RN

(3,185 posts)
26. Policies?
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:26 AM
Nov 3

Pfft. Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent doesn’t have any policies, unless you count trying to stay out of jail and doing what he can to grift off of the presidency. Anything else has been spoon fed to him by SS Obergrupenführer Stephen Miller (Q-Nazi Fuck) and Moscow Mitch McConnell (Q-For Power and Putin!).

GB_RN

(3,185 posts)
30. My Bad.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:34 AM
Nov 3

I was just riffing off your comment, not (deliberately) attacking it. I probably should have put a 😉 at the end to make it clear.

Response to rurallib (Reply #1)

JT45242

(2,959 posts)
3. Have policies that people like....
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 07:39 AM
Nov 3

That's how you win the popular vote.

The klan and neonazi ideas have not really been popular vote winners for a long time.

To quote the Blues Brothers..."I hate Illinois Nazis."

bucolic_frolic

(47,313 posts)
4. tough to win the popular vote when you are unpopular
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 07:39 AM
Nov 3

not very complicated. Even a stable genius might be expected to understand it.

Midnight Writer

(23,062 posts)
5. Don't worry, Donald. Even when you don't win, you can always start suing everyone.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 07:41 AM
Nov 3

You know your campaign team are taking you for your money, don't you, Donald? They know you can't win and they are charging you millions of dollars for their fraud. Right off the bat you should refuse to pay them. Use that money to pay more lawyers. It's your only hope.

moose65

(3,323 posts)
6. It's actually worse
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 07:42 AM
Nov 3

Dems have won the popular vote in 7 out of the last 8 presidential elections. Republicans have only won it one time in the past 32 years. You’d think they would get a clue….

William Seger

(11,072 posts)
69. Yup, but add the EC to the list of things that The DonOld apparently doesn't understand
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 08:01 PM
Nov 3

He's saying that it's tough to win the popular vote because those big states give their electoral votes to Democrats? I'm beginning to suspect that The DonOld is not too bright.

Mc Mike

(9,173 posts)
7. He also said, in '16, that it was easier to win by popular vote, so
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 07:47 AM
Nov 3

Last edited Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:30 AM - Edit history (1)

he chose the 'harder' path to victory, and won by getting more electoral college votes.

Any stupid lie he feels like belching out of his pie-hole is good enough, as far as he's concerned.

"“It would have been much easier for me to win the so-called popular vote than the Electoral College in that I would only campaign in 3 or 4- states instead of the 15 states that I visited. I would have won even more easily and convincingly (but smaller states are forgotten)!” he added."

https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/27/politics/donald-trump-voter-fraud-popular-vote/index.html

39. So by his logic, since he WOULD have won, he DID win.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:15 AM
Nov 3

That was the same logic he used in 2020 to claim he'd won, even before the votes had been counted.

His ego can't handle being a loser, so he lies to change the facts to match his fantasy. Poor, little pathetic man/boy.

underpants

(186,988 posts)
52. He's the world's greatest salesman. If he'd wanted it, he wanted it he OBVIOUSLY would have done it.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 02:09 PM
Nov 3

🙄

Karma13612

(4,693 posts)
8. Abolish the EC darnit!
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 07:47 AM
Nov 3

If the nominee can’t win the popular vote, they have NO business being the elected office holder.

So sick of lopsided government.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
10. Gosh. People don't like what you're selling?
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 07:56 AM
Nov 3

And you refuse to listen to them and make improvements when they tell you what they don't like about you?

It's called consequences, moron.

Response to Raven123 (Reply #11)

Icanthinkformyself

(303 posts)
12. But for the EC
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 08:04 AM
Nov 3

the Republicans haven't won the presidential election since Reagan, who, with a major dose of treason with Iran mixed in, 'won'. Of course, corporate media plays a major role in dressing up the Republicans and making them seem reasonable and not batshit crazy like they really are. I have former friends who tripped over a Q and fell into the rabbit hole. They became angry and hostile posting white nationalist crap on their FB pages. Being Catholics, they we three quarters there, apparently. And, the Convicted Felon allowed them to be them to be their racist, anti-anybody but them, types that they hid very well for years. Kinda glad, in a way. Better we should know that our 'former friends' are fascists and to avoid them.

JHB

(37,447 posts)
47. Heck, the last time the White House passed from a Democratic administration to a Republican one...
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 01:10 PM
Nov 3

...without some form of skullduggery afoot was Eisenhower.

Rocknation

(44,884 posts)
13. Rocknation Says It's 'IMPOSSIBLE' for ANYONE To Win A Popular Vote
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 08:45 AM
Nov 3

Who Is MORE UNpopular Than Popular


Rocknation

Martin68

(24,638 posts)
19. I'm surprised at the admission. Trump's usual stance is that millions of undocumented immigrants were bussed in to
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:28 AM
Nov 3

vote for Democrats.

FakeNoose

(35,898 posts)
22. When is he going to admit that the only reason he won in 2016
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:43 AM
Nov 3

... was all the help he got from Russia and Faux Noise?

Since 2020 Chump has lost so many supporters that he has literally no chance of winning now. At least half of his own Party refuses to vote for him and he's not picking up many independents this year. All his "stupid pet tricks" have amounted to nothing.

Elon Musk can donate all the money in the world and it won't matter.

thesquanderer

(12,379 posts)
29. He's talking as if NY/IL/CA are all-or-nothing. That's true for electoral college but NOT for popular vote.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:34 AM
Nov 3

Nonsense talk as usual.

TBF

(34,550 posts)
33. By definition popular vote is just that - everyone
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:44 AM
Nov 3

gets a vote no matter which state they are in.

He's damned lucky the EV system exists - he wouldn't have been president without it.

ToxMarz

(2,252 posts)
34. That's what the southern slave states thought too
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:48 AM
Nov 3

and why we have the electoral college, to rig the elections in minority favor who couldn't win any other way.

AnnaLee

(1,165 posts)
36. He doesn't seem to even know what the "popular vote" means.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:04 AM
Nov 3

"because of Democratic strength in certain strongholds ahead of Election Day on Tuesday" has nothing to do with actual vote counts.

MissouriDem47

(49 posts)
37. Demographics Change
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:08 AM
Nov 3

When Texas along with Florida turns blue, which will make it impossible for Republicans to win the White House, they will then decide that the Electoral College needs to go. It's going to happen, it's a matter of when not if.

4catsmom

(263 posts)
41. the EC must be scrapped
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:31 AM
Nov 3

they've inflicted enough damage and misery on the U.S. it's a legacy of slavery and we have abolished slavery.

republianmushroom

(17,943 posts)
42. It is even tougher when they have and orange A-O, rapist, convicted felon as a candidate.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:35 AM
Nov 3

As hey are about to find out.

Tweedy

(1,198 posts)
48. Yeah. The American people disagree with the GOP
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 01:18 PM
Nov 3

about just about every old thing. That does make running a majority of us difficult.

OverBurn

(1,103 posts)
49. That means the majority of the people to not like your dumb ass. It sucks that imaginary lines mean more than people.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 01:19 PM
Nov 3

underpants

(186,988 posts)
53. The idea of he or any Republican winning the national vote is ridiculous
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 02:21 PM
Nov 3

W did because we were in the middle of two wars and people want to follow the leader even if that leader lied you into one of the wars.

Clouds Passing

(2,536 posts)
54. Since the late 60s, Nixon & Reagan committed treason, SC elected Bush jr
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 03:13 PM
Nov 3

Bush sr probably had his meddling dirty hands deeply in all of that!

patphil

(7,051 posts)
57. Maybe they should nominate candidates with a broader appeal, and develop a more acceptable platform.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:10 PM
Nov 3

If you have to resort gerrymandering and voter suppression to win, then perhaps you aren't doing the right things.
But then, these guys aren't the sharpest tools in the box.
Or, maybe it's that they just don't give a shit, as long as they win.
Yeah, that's it.
So, lets put them on a losing streak.

Emile

(30,323 posts)
59. Whenever a republican tells me we need term limits,
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:35 PM
Nov 3

I reply what we need is to do away with is the electoral college.

ailsagirl

(23,843 posts)
62. ,,,,,
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 05:41 PM
Nov 3

Last edited Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:59 PM - Edit history (3)




The last smiley has always reminded me of cheato-- red hair, stupid look on face, etc.

Shermann

(8,698 posts)
66. As a percentage of the total US population, there are fewer poorly educated white males every year.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 07:08 PM
Nov 3

Maybe it is time to court some other groups?

(If you are one of those poorly educated Trumpers, no need to answer that. It's what's called a rhetorical question.)

D23MIURG23

(3,092 posts)
67. He's right. Republicans do better in a system where some people's votes count more than others.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 07:23 PM
Nov 3

Winning the popular vote means more people like you than the alternative. That's hard when you tailor your message to the ultra-rich, and ignorant people who hate minorities.

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
71. If your "policies" and "positions" suck ass, then guess what? YOU DON'T GET TO WIN
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:29 PM
Nov 3

AND RUN THINGS!

It's that plain and simple.

Even a 5-year old can understand that.

But hey, maybe saying you have the brain and intelligence of a 5-year-old might be giving you too much credit.

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