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BumRushDaShow

(143,118 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:50 PM Nov 5

Rudy Giuliani ordered to appear in court after missing deadline to turn over Mercedes, other assets

Last edited Tue Nov 5, 2024, 05:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: AP

Updated 5:17 PM EST, November 5, 2024


A judge has ordered Rudy Giuliani to appear in a New York courtroom to explain why he missed a deadline to surrender his belongings — including a Mercedes that appeared to be the same car he was spotted in Tuesday — as part of a $148 million defamation judgment.

U.S. District Judge Lewis Liman issued the order late Monday after lawyers for Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea “Shaye” Moss — two former Georgia election workers who were awarded the massive judgement — reported to the court that they went to Giuliani’s Manhattan apartment last week to see what assets were there, but that it had been cleared out.

Liman had set an Oct. 29 deadline for Giuliani to surrender many of his possessions to representatives for Freeman and Moss, but none of the items has been turned over yet, lawyers for the former election workers said Monday. The judge ordered Giuliani and his lawyers to appear in court on Thursday.

Those possessions include his $5 million Upper East Side apartment, a 1980 Mercedes once owned by movie star Lauren Bacall, and a variety of other belongings — from his television to a shirt signed by New York Yankees legend Joe DiMaggio to 26 luxury watches.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/rudy-giuliani-defamation-georgia-election-workers-deadline-2417b2b46e7c573b149b1b3f448038c8



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Rudy Giuliani ordered to appear in court after missing deadline to turn over assets

Updated 2:20 PM EST, November 5, 2024


A judge has ordered Rudy Giuliani to appear in a New York courtroom on Thursday to explain why he missed a deadline to surrender his belongings as part of a $148 million defamation judgment.

U.S. District Judge Lewis Liman issued the order late Monday after lawyers for Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea “Shaye” Moss — two former Georgia election workers who were awarded the massive judgement — reported to the court that they went to Giuliani’s Manhattan apartment last week to see what assets were there, but that it had been cleared out.

Liman had set an Oct. 29 deadline for Giuliani to surrender many of his possessions to representatives for Freeman and Moss, but none of the items has been turned over yet, lawyers for the former election workers said Monday. Those possessions include his $5 million Upper East Side apartment, a 1980 Mercedes once owned by movie star Lauren Bacall, and a variety of other belongings — from his television to a shirt signed by New York Yankees legend Joe DiMaggio to 26 luxury watches.

On Tuesday, media reports showed Giuliani in the passenger seat of what appeared to be a 1980 Mercedes, with another man driving, at a polling place in Palm Beach, Florida, where Donald Trump cast his ballot as he tried to reclaim the presidency. It could not be immediately confirmed if it was the same car he was supposed to turn over. A Giuliani spokesperson did not immediately return a text message requesting comment.
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Rudy Giuliani ordered to appear in court after missing deadline to turn over Mercedes, other assets (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 5 OP
Giuliani is just openly taunting the legal system VMA131Marine Nov 5 #1
im sure it's a delay tactic quakerboy Nov 5 #15
The items were removed from the apt.? Would that be considered theft? Think. Again. Nov 5 #2
FAFO Brother Buzz Nov 5 #3
Lock his sorry law-breaking ass UP. What a slimeball. America's Mayor. How duped we all were under 9-11 cloud. nt Evolve Dammit Nov 5 #4
Oh, lemne tell you. As an NYC'r I Only felt somewhat good about him during early 9-11. The rest of the time; Oh hell no! electric_blue68 Nov 5 #12
I can only imagine how many lives he ruined when he was AG (or mayor) Evolve Dammit Nov 5 #18
I wouldn't know about his AG term, but... electric_blue68 Nov 5 #19
Crooked as dogs hind leg. Lock him up if he doesn't comply with the GA election workers decision Evolve Dammit Nov 5 #21
Got it. Might have check some history out. Ha, never heard that expression before! I enjoy new to me word play. electric_blue68 Nov 5 #22
And showing up in Palm Springs in the Mercedes he was ruled to turn over two weeks ago... Evolve Dammit Nov 5 #24
Yes! I SAW that earlier! As another poster said .."the Arrogance"!!! electric_blue68 Nov 5 #25
He is due for forking over everything to Shay Moss and Ruby Freeman Evolve Dammit Nov 5 #27
Time: To Understand Rudy Giuliani's Actions on Jan. 6, Look at a 1992 Police Riot in New York OKIsItJustMe Nov 6 #32
I wonder if he left the country. nt Mosby Nov 5 #5
No . . . SarcasticSatyr Nov 5 #6
The raw arrogance of that is astounding! InstantGratification Nov 5 #7
THIS! ☝️ electric_blue68 Nov 5 #13
lock his sorry ass up moonshinegnomie Nov 5 #8
Waiting for the judge to issue an arrest warrant. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 5 #9
He can ride the bus. twodogsbarking Nov 5 #10
AP: Rudy Giuliani seen in a Mercedes similar to the one he was ordered to turn over OKIsItJustMe Nov 5 #11
Watch him push it to moniss Nov 5 #14
Well, yeah, Harris has weaponized the DoJ against anyone who supported Trump... OKIsItJustMe Nov 5 #16
Isn't it sad to realize that moniss Nov 5 #26
Isn't so much these days? OKIsItJustMe Nov 6 #31
LOCK HIM UP!!!! COL Mustard Nov 5 #17
Probably hid all of his assets. He's getting to be an expert on hiding assets, after his divorce. I suspect that the SWBTATTReg Nov 5 #20
Past time for jail, but do it now. republianmushroom Nov 5 #23
Rudy Giuliani continues to play games with Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss LetMyPeopleVote Nov 5 #28
Take the keys and lock the fucker up for awhile. Bev54 Nov 5 #29
Apparently Rudy still thinks he's above the law. democrank Nov 5 #30

VMA131Marine

(4,667 posts)
1. Giuliani is just openly taunting the legal system
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:53 PM
Nov 5

to come and make an example of him. Old Giuliani is the kind of person younger Giuliani used to put behind bars.

quakerboy

(14,157 posts)
15. im sure it's a delay tactic
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 06:09 PM
Nov 5

Based on the hope trump will steal the election and save him, or at least cause enough turmoil he can leverage it for personal advantage.

Brother Buzz

(37,927 posts)
3. FAFO
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:00 PM
Nov 5

Rudy Giuliani is gonna be relegated to sleeping on couches, and digging into the cushions for spare change.

Evolve Dammit

(18,849 posts)
4. Lock his sorry law-breaking ass UP. What a slimeball. America's Mayor. How duped we all were under 9-11 cloud. nt
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:07 PM
Nov 5

electric_blue68

(18,347 posts)
12. Oh, lemne tell you. As an NYC'r I Only felt somewhat good about him during early 9-11. The rest of the time; Oh hell no!
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 05:29 PM
Nov 5
Rascist, and a bully!

electric_blue68

(18,347 posts)
19. I wouldn't know about his AG term, but...
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 06:52 PM
Nov 5

as Mayor not sure if he started the "stop and frisk" 'approach" on our black & brown NYC'rs.
Thinking also they might have harassed those of HS age in the subways.

It was a Nasty, even dangerous time for some of my NYC'rs.

electric_blue68

(18,347 posts)
22. Got it. Might have check some history out. Ha, never heard that expression before! I enjoy new to me word play.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:11 PM
Nov 5

Oh, yes, definitely some jail time for stealing what is now Ruby's and Shay's property.
What a piece of work he is!

electric_blue68

(18,347 posts)
25. Yes! I SAW that earlier! As another poster said .."the Arrogance"!!!
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:26 PM
Nov 5

Gggggrrrrrrrrr.
I usually never quite quit hoping certain people will get their just deserts!

OKIsItJustMe

(20,918 posts)
32. Time: To Understand Rudy Giuliani's Actions on Jan. 6, Look at a 1992 Police Riot in New York
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 06:59 PM
Nov 6
https://time.com/6257682/rudy-giuliani-january-6-police-riot/
To Understand Rudy Giuliani’s Actions on Jan. 6, Look at a 1992 Police Riot in New York
7 MINUTE READ

Rudy Giuliani stood before the angry crowd, his voice strained but carrying clearly over the assembled throng. The audience was angry and aggrieved—and many were also armed. Giving little heed to civility or comity, Giuliani knew what his crowd wanted, which was to overrun a building where officials were taking actions that the mob believed to be wrongheaded. Such a move would leave officials no choice but to cede their power and give the rioters what they wanted. It might be messy, but the crowd believed it could prevail.

Sounds familiar, right? Well, Giuliani has twice played a similar role in front of a violent mob: the most proximate was on Jan. 6, 2021, when he urged a crowd gathered between the White House and the Washington Monument to march to the Capitol to pressure Congress to keep Donald Trump in power despite and electoral loss; the other was back in 1992, when Giuliani stood on City Hall’s iconic steps with off-duty New York City police officers who thought the mayor’s plan to increase civilian oversight of the force would put those in uniform under too much scrutiny.

“If you wanted to see an early version of Jan. 6, 2021, go look at the footage of the police riot of 1992, City Hall, New York City,” former Mayor Bill de Blasio says in a new TIME Studios documentary about Giuliani.

Watching the four-part project, it’s clear that Giuliani’s worst instincts have long been evident. As TIME’s Brian Bennett writes, Giuliani’s record has plenty of predicates well before he emerged as former President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, chief enabler, and conspiracy spouter. But the event at NYC’s City Hall in September of 1992—detailed in the second episode, airing at 10 p.m. Sunday on MSNBC—reveals a dangerous hype man for grievance in front of a crowd that can quickly turn violent, reveal its racism, and ignore the rule of law supposedly so central to its identity.



Rudy gained a reputation for fighting organized crime, but “people” say he was involved in it up to his neck.

https://studios.time.com/our-work/when-truth-isnt-truth-the-rudy-giuliani-story/
7. The raw arrogance of that is astounding!
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:57 PM
Nov 5

He is ordered to turn that property over. Not only does he ignore the judges order, he moves the property out of state and then publicly rides to a place he knows the cameras will be rolling.

moonshinegnomie

(2,916 posts)
8. lock his sorry ass up
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 05:01 PM
Nov 5

im sorry but when idiots like this flaunt the legal system it makes me question why I bother obeying laws.
maybe its time to just move to another country . (and yes we've considered it.)


OKIsItJustMe

(20,918 posts)
11. AP: Rudy Giuliani seen in a Mercedes similar to the one he was ordered to turn over
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 05:25 PM
Nov 5
https://apnews.com/live/trump-harris-election-updates-11-5-2024#00000192-fe61-d414-a79f-ff7d8a450000
Rudy Giuliani seen in a Mercedes similar to the one he was ordered to turn over
By DAN MERICA

Rudy Giuliani was not shy as he drove up to a polling station in Palm Beach, Florida, in a blue Mercedes that appeared to be the one a federal judge ordered him to turn over to the two Georgia election workers who won a defamation lawsuit against the former mayor of New York.

Sitting in the passenger seat of what appears to be a 1980 Mercedes-Benz 500SL, Giuliani smiled and waved to supporters and photographers at the polling place where Trump cast his ballot as he tried to reclaim the presidency.

It could not be immediately confirmed if Giuliani was riding in the same car he was supposed to turn over. The judge gave the staunch Trump supporter until October 29 to do so. U.S. District Judge Lewis Liman has ordered Giuliani to appear in a New York courtroom on Thursday to explain why he missed a deadline.

“Our lawyers have requested documentation to transfer over the title of the vehicle, and haven’t heard back from opposing counsel,” said Giuliani spokesman Ted Goodman.

OKIsItJustMe

(20,918 posts)
16. Well, yeah, Harris has weaponized the DoJ against anyone who supported Trump...
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 06:17 PM
Nov 5

…starting with the tourists who came to see the Capital on January 6th, 2021. (They just wanted to beat the crowds that were going to arrive for the Inauguration…)

moniss

(5,970 posts)
26. Isn't it sad to realize that
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:29 PM
Nov 5

a huge percentage of the population wouldn't understand your statement without the sarcasm emoji?

SWBTATTReg

(24,226 posts)
20. Probably hid all of his assets. He's getting to be an expert on hiding assets, after his divorce. I suspect that the
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:04 PM
Nov 5

judge (or at least I hope so) is aware of his conduct before when he hid assets from his ex-wife when they divorced.

LetMyPeopleVote

(154,961 posts)
28. Rudy Giuliani continues to play games with Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:35 PM
Nov 5

From Lisa Rubin-Giuliani appeared in Florida in the 1980s Mercedes Benz a judge ordered him to turn over to the women he defamed.




https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/rudy-giuliani-mercedes-court-hearing-rcna178851

UPDATE (Nov. 5, 2024, 4:55 p.m. E.T.): Lawyers for Freeman and Moss filed a letter with the court Tuesday noting reports of Giuliani appearing in the Mercedes and accusing him of “flouting his obligations under the Court’s Turnover and Receivership Order.”

Freeman and Moss then filed an action against Giuliani in New York federal court, seeking to have his assets turned over to them in a receivership — and late last month, federal Judge Lewis Liman ordered Giuliani to turn over most of his assets, his multi-million dollar Manhattan condominium, and even a 1980s Mercedes Benz convertible once owned by legendary actress Lauren Bacall to the women. That judge also ordered Giuliani to hand over control of those assets within seven days.

But when the women’s lawyers were given keys to Giuliani’s condo last week, they found it “substantially empty;” through further correspondence with Giuliani’s lawyers, they then learned that many of Giuliani’s valuables, which they expected to find in the apartment itself, had been transferred to storage in Long Island and that the Mercedes was already in Florida. And as the women’s lawyers represented to the judge, Giuliani still has not transferred any property to them.

.....Rudy being Rudy, he just can’t help himself. He now reportedly lives in a condo in Palm Beach, which he is trying to prevent Freeman and Moss from seizing by claiming it as his primary residence under Florida’s “homestead” law. And Tuesday morning, Giuliani was driven in to Trump’s polling station as a passenger in the Mercedes the judge ordered him to hand over to Freeman and Moss by Oct. 29.

Lawyers for Freeman and Moss declined to comment on this development. In the meantime, Giuliani’s lawyers have represented to the court that he cannot be in New York Thursday because he is contractually committed to a radio broadcast, his equipment is in Florida, and his radio work is his sole source of “earned income.” The court denied Giuliani’s request for failing to show any “good cause,” and reiterated that he must appear personally.

Whatever the outcome of Tuesday's election, something tells me that based on what he said after the last election and how he continues to flout the law, Thursday is going to be a rough day for Giuliani.
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