Results suggest Trump made more gains with Latinos

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: Axios

4 hours ago


Latino voters in Florida and Texas helped propel former President Trump to victories Tuesday in counties where Democrats had an edge in the past two presidential elections.

Why it matters: Most Latinos still vote Democratic, but the results suggested that as a bloc this fast-growing segment of the electorate — now about 20% of the population — is continuing to slowly shift to the right.

Tuesday's results also suggest that many Latinos share Trump's concerns about illegal immigration, despite the racist rhetoric he's used to describe undocumented Latinos.

Zoom in: In winning Florida, Trump got more than 54% of the vote in Miami-Dade County, which is majority Latino.

Hillary Clinton won that county with 63% of the vote in 2016, and President Biden won it with 53% in 2020.

But Republicans have made massive inroads in Miami-Dade, where traditionally conservative Cuban Americans make up about half of the Latino population.

In Hidalgo County, in South Texas — a Mexican American stronghold that Biden won with 58% of the vote in 2020 — Vice President Harris and Trump were virtually tied early Wednesday, with Harris leading by less than half a percentage point.

In Cameron County, at the southern tip of Texas' Rio Grande Valley, Trump led Harris, 52-47, according to early results. Biden won that county with 56% of the vote four years ago.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/2024/11/06/election-trump-latinos-gains

[Walleye]

1. I guess his repeated use of the word communist must've helped with the Latinos

[CousinIT]

2. Harris would have never won TX or FL anyway. What happened n PA and MI? Nt

[BumRushDaShow]

4. There are other ethnicities or nationalities beyond Puerto Ricans

E.g., Dominicans (and there are quite a few on the U.S. mainland), and we obviously know about Cubans, Mexicans, and any from Central & South America. And just like many Europeans, there will always be self-interest within a group but also disagreements and even antagonism between groups. They basically share a language and some cultural things but that is about it.

[LeftInTX]

18. Thanks for this.

I find it bewildering that many find this demographic so bewildering.

(I believe it is 13% of the US population?)

[BumRushDaShow]

22. The claim has been from awhile ago, that the were now up to about 25% of the population

but they represent a language group that comes from many countries in the Americas and Europe and even Asia (e.g., the Philippines, that was under Spain's colonial control for 3 centuries).

One can simply look at the "off the boat" Colombia, South America native Loose Cannon, and how she most likely would not expect that "deportations" would apply to someone like her.

[SKKY]

12. And us calling Dems "Progressives" didn't help either...

...Progressives in Spanish translates as "Progresistas", and that is the exact term people like Casto and Maduro have used for years to describe themselves and their supporters. We can call TFG a "facista" all day long, but if you are more worried about a Progresista, facista just doesn't have the same weight.

But, lets see what happens when the biggest mass deportation the world has ever seen, and many of the families that supported TFG this time are pulled apart.

[electric_blue68]

14. OHhhh...

"...Progressives in Spanish translates as "Progresistas", and that is the exact term people like Casto and Maduro have used for years to describe themselves and their supporters."

..Great.... just "great"...

[ananda]

21. I didn't know that.

I guess they don't believe what Trump says he will
do to "migrants."

[riversedge]

3. I think Trumps overall tone of "I will fix it" or I care about you helped him with many

Latino's--and those not well off (which many people do not and will not admit).

Forget that Trump lies and will not care about them. For me, it seemed to work


Harris won California on Tuesday, but appeared to be underperforming Biden's 2020 numbers in several other heavily Latino areas — including Merced County, where 64% of the population is Latino.

Zoom out: Earlier this year, Axios Latino spent time speaking to Latino voters in Calfornia's Central Valley, where Cesar Chavez once launched the Delano Grape Strike and Boycott.

Many said they felt dismissed by the Democratic Party and had seldom been courted by Republicans — until recently.

The intrigue: An offensive remark about Puerto Ricans by a comedian at a recent Trump rally in New York appeared to boost Harris in Puerto Rican neighborhoods in Philadelphia and New York.

But in Florida's Osceola County, home to a large Puerto Rican community, Trump had a small lead with most of the vote counted. Biden had won that county with 56% of the vote in 2020..................

[IronLionZion]

5. He talks a big game

but his actions have been a very different story. The Trump presidency is not going to be good for Latinos.

[durablend]

6. Yeah but they bought it

ENJOY, IDIOTS

[GB_RN]

7. What. The. Fuck. America?!?!

Before I went to sleep last night (I’m a nurse, and have to get up early, so I was lights out at 10), I had turned off the election news feed on my phone; I didn’t want it buzzing at me all night. At that time, there was no indication that there was anything wrong, but for some reason, I didn’t go to sleep with a good feeling.

I woke up, still not feeling good about today. I looked at the news and Jesus H Christ on a stick! It was far worse than I imagined.

I woke up to find he actually won the popular vote!😵?💫At one of the last time stamps on Electoral Vote’s live blog, they said Harris was 21 MILLION votes behind where Biden had been at that point, and Caligula was 7 million UP from his 2020 numbers.

How? Where was all the enthusiasm? Democrats stayed home! Why? The momentum was all there going into yesterday. I don’t get it. The country actually VOTED for the fascist, despite all the warnings from people who’d worked with him, for fuck’s sake.

I’m just kinda stunned, this empty feeling in me. I weep for the country, and the planet. We’ve blown our chance to stop Russia and mitigate global warming. We gave up on women’s rights, minorities and asylum seekers. We have, KNOWINGLY, surrendered to the Nazis/fascists. We have handed them the keys to the castle where they can raid the Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security money vaults.

It’s like some bizzaro, alternate reality. Stop the goddamned planet. I want off.

[eppur_se_muova]

9. Hope they're ready to be deported, citizen or not.

If I were Latino, I wouldn't be caught in a border state for the next four years. Authorities in TX certainly won't hesitate to deport them all, and let God sort them out.

[LeftInTX]

15. The state is 40% Latino

We have 10 million Latinos in Texas. The governor's wife is Latina. About 30-40% of Latinos are GOP. Cameron County went red last night. (80% Latino area)
Many of Abbott's goons are Latinos themselves. Border Patrol is overwhelmingly Latino. So are police departments. Many Latinos are judges and DAs.
Where I live it is 60% Latino and I live in the white part.
Do you really think San Antonio is going to turn into a vacant wasteland?
This is hyperbole and it shows how people just don't understand the demographics.

My kids are hubby are all Latino. I do worry about my pregnant daughter, but isn't about her ethnicity. But they are not going to be deported.

[Kablooie]

10. If they vote, they are citizens and don't have to worry about deportation.

[LeftInTX]

11. I know. But many DU members argue otherwise

You physically cannot deport a Mexican-American to Mexico if they are not a Mexican citizen. Mexico will not accept them.

We don't talk about deporting Trump to Scotland or Germany. Those countries won't take him. He's not a citizen of those countries.

[TexasBushwhacker]

16. But they will be rounding up Latinos

just for being Latino. They will have to prove they are citizens or that they have legal work permits. That can take days to weeks. Meanwhile, they stay in jail, lose their jobs, their homes, their vehicles. It will be like the internment of the Japanese during WWII.

[LeftInTX]

17. Doubt it. Oh well. We will live in internment camps.

Will post on DU about our experience when it happens. All 20 of hubby's immediate family, our three kids and four grandkids. With extended family that makes about 80 of us. I'm the token non-latina, so I will be free to post. But my name is Hispanic and sometimes I pass, so if I dissappear, you know.

[Captain Zero]

19. In places like Indiana, won't be a peep from anyone here.

In fact, I predict Indiana will build camps for Trump to hold them here until their flight or bus out.

[Zeitghost]

13. I saw that Cruz

Went from -29 to +6 with Hispanic voters in TX. Not sure if that was an early number that didn't hold entirely, but overall it's a trend that has continued to build and will cause serious problems going forward.

[yardwork]

20. I see this in the Nevada exit polls as well.

White and Black voters voted for Harris at about the same percents as in 2020. There was even a slight shift away from Trump.

But Hispanic voters shifted strongly to Trump, compared to 2020.

And more young voters shifted to Trump.

If there's a lesson in this for Democrats, it's to look at our messaging to Hispanic/Latino voters. They are not a bloc. Depending on where they are from originally, they have widely differing views.

Many Hispanic people whose families have been in the country a long time are opposed to "illegal immigration." Trump's rhetoric resonates with them.

People who fled communist dictatorships in Latin America may have been persuaded by Trump's laughable lie that Harris is a communist.

Who knows what Trump and his surrogates said on Spanish-language media.

We need more Latino advisers from all backgrounds in the DNC.