Massachusetts governor: State police would not assist in mass deportations

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: The Hill

11/07/24 1:30 PM ET


Massachusetts Gov. Maura Healey (D) said her state’s law enforcement will not assist in mass deportations if President-elect Trump follows though with such a plan.

“No, absolutely not,” Healey told MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell on Wednesday when she was asked whether Massachusetts would assist if the Trump administration asked. “But let me say this, I do think it’s important that we all recognize that there’s going to be a lot of pressure on states and state officials, and I can assure you, we’re going to work really hard to deliver.”

Much of Trump’s agenda over the last eight years has been centered on immigration. He’s promised that on day one of his second term, he will launch “the largest deportation program in American history.”

Healey said there is likely to be litigation against Trump’s plan.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4979128-massachusetts-governor-wont-aid-trump/

[Magoo48]

1. Excellent.

I am fairly sure the State of California will not assist. We’re just waiting for Gavin to make it so. We are preparing for ft’s onslaught.
https://calmatters.org/justice/2024/11/california-vs-trump-lawsuits/

[ificandream]

2. Newsom is having a zoom call tomorrow to get things started.

4 p.m. PT Friday. You can find it here: https://www.youtube.com/@Campaign-for-Democracy

[MayReasonRule]

3. We're Currently In North Louisiana... Considring Relocating To Massachussetts... We've Found A Few Interesting Spots...

Any recommendations?

[Marthe48]

4. Portugal

Uruguay

:/

[Baron2024]

5. Excellent

Blue States run by Democratic Governors will be on the front line of a Resistance Movement against the Trump Fascist Regime. Massachusetts, New York, Illinois, California all will be part of the opposition. Resist Fascism! There is hope.

[Initech]

6. Good, now we got to get other states involved.

Fuck Trump and this garbage, bullshit, Nazi plan.

[SupportSanity]

7. I think statements showing committment are great. Let's see how things look in a year, 2 years, 3 years........

This will depend on a resistance the likes of which the world has never seen.

[louis-t]

8. I think he's going to find a lot of resistance.

Remember, "promises made, promises kept" bullshit he's spewing. Everything he tries to do will be resisted. Even by repugs. Especially if we manage to get the House.

[J_William_Ryan]

9. "State police would not assist in mass deportations"

And the Constitution is on their side.

States and local jurisdictions cannot be compelled to enforce Federal laws – including immigration laws.

Not that Trump and his Cult members care about the Constitution, of course.

[BlueKota]

10. I don't trust the Supreme Court to uphold the Constitution

I expect them to just rubber stamp everything he does as "Constitutional," even if it isn't. I used to think the drafters of the Constitution were brilliant, and some of what they wrote was, but damn did they f up by giving the SC the ultimate unchecked power. Impeachment is the only consequence for corruption by them, and if their party controls the Senate that will never happen. They know that they can be as corrupt as they want to be and we can't do anything to deter them.

[cstanleytech]

11. Does the President have control over immigration into the US under the Constitution or is it by a Law?

[BumRushDaShow]

12. It's generally by law

Article II

The President can and does negotiate treaties (which must be approved by 2/3 of the Senate) and those might touch on or have some impact on immigration.

[cstanleytech]

13. Are there treaties that authorize the President to order the arrest of another countries citizens though?

If not then we might be at point of letting a President have that much power and influence.

[BumRushDaShow]

14. Those would be part of the international treaties

where extradition processes are agreed to by the signatories.

There are too many to name but one who would be well known as an example, is Julian Assange.

In Assange's case, after years of drama in the UK with him living in the Ecuador Embassy after fleeing charges in Sweden (which later dropped the charges), then kicked out, rearrested by Britain, and charged there for breaking his bail terms, and then later announced to be under arrest (in absentia) by the U.S. for espionage associated with his Wikileaks (and that ties into Chelsea Manning who did eventually get pardoned), he finally got a plea agreement with the U.S., and was released to go home to Australia.

I just found this which has Assange's whole timeline over the past dozen years - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11949341

[cstanleytech]

15. But that's extradition of someone to the United States that has a warrant out by the US.

Do the people here in the US illegally have warrants issued out on them seeking their extradition for a crime by their own country?

[BumRushDaShow]

16. The "illegal" part would point to whether there is something agreed to in a treaty or not.

but don't forget the Patriot Act and the FISA courts (and whatever might be going on with those which are classified).