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BumRushDaShow

(152,920 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:52 PM Nov 2024

AP calls Pennsylvania's U.S. Senate race for Dave McCormick but Bob Casey refuses to concede

Source: Pennsylvania Capital-Star

November 7, 2024 4:41 pm


Republican Dave McCormick appeared to win a major upset victory in Pennsylvania, beating three-term incumbent Bob Casey, which would give the GOP a key win in the U.S. Senate, where it now holds 53 seats. The Associated Press called the race on Thursday shortly after 4 p.m. with McCormick leading by 30,919 votes, or 0.46%.

“While votes continue to be counted, any way you slice it, Dave McCormick will be the next United States Senator from Pennsylvania,” Elizabeth Gregory, McCormick communications director, said in a statement Thursday ahead of the AP call.

But Casey did not concede on Thursday afternoon. His campaign sent a statement with a social media post from Secretary of the Commonwealth Al Schmidt that reads “Every legitimate vote must be counted in every election, we ask for patience as county election officials continue the work of counting ballots here in Pennsylvania. Election Day is the start of counting ballots here in the Commonwealth.”

Casey campaign spokesperson Maddy McDaniel said the race was not yet over. “As the Pennsylvania Secretary of State said this afternoon, there are tens of thousands of ballots across the Commonwealth still to count, which includes provisional ballots, military and overseas ballots, and mail ballots,” McDaniel said in a statement. “This race is within half a point and cannot be called while the votes of thousands of Pennsylvanians are still being counted. We will make sure every Pennsylvanian’s voice is heard.” If the current margin holds, or remains at or under 0.5%, it would trigger a recount under Pennsylvania law.

Read more: https://penncapital-star.com/election-2024/pennsylvania-senate-casey-mccormick-ap-call-concede/

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AP calls Pennsylvania's U.S. Senate race for Dave McCormick but Bob Casey refuses to concede (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 OP
Good.............. Lovie777 Nov 2024 #1
Good for Casey to not concede until every vote is counted and confirmed. Jit423 Nov 2024 #2
They are still counting votes. demodonkey Nov 2024 #3
Good. sheshe2 Nov 2024 #4
Good - yes!!! Ysabel Nov 2024 #5
Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #6
Excuse me? Akakoji Nov 2024 #7
Maybe they think Casey is the Republican? orange jar Nov 2024 #8
Republicans definitely do not want to establish precedent that every vote counts bucolic_frolic Nov 2024 #9
McCormick had been through several recounts BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 #10
Sounds like he has a chance of winning (100,000 votes weren't counted) karin_sj Nov 2024 #11
100,000 to go, but he's down about 31,000 Polybius Nov 2024 #15
Why the hell haven't they finished.... Historic NY Nov 2024 #23
California isn't done. Nevada either. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #27
Can he overcome a 30,,000 vote deficit with the remaining mail ballots? ColinC Nov 2024 #12
I had a typo on the above post karin_sj Nov 2024 #13
Not sure what the count is up to, but last time I checked there are probably close to 200,000 ballots left to count, lees1975 Nov 2024 #14
Unlikely, which is why the AP called it Polybius Nov 2024 #16
PA has an automatic trigger for a recount if the difference is 0.5% or less BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 #19
Yes, and I support the recount Polybius Nov 2024 #25
if it's regular mail-in ballots I don't see why not cadoman Nov 2024 #21
Exactly!! onecaliberal Nov 2024 #17
FUCK YOU AP orangecrush Nov 2024 #18
Everyone vote should be counted. Count the remaining 100,000 votes - maybe he wins, maybe he doesn't. But iluvtennis Nov 2024 #20
AP needs to retract it's call, based on this information: Sogo Nov 2024 #22
Good Rebl2 Nov 2024 #24
Statement from Casey campaign on the vote count in #PASen: LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #26
It's still at 95% counted, with McCormick up by around 35,000 Polybius Nov 2024 #28
Military/civilian overseas ballots are due NLT than *7* days AFTER election day BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 #29
Thank you Polybius Nov 2024 #30
That is a state law BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 #31

Jit423

(1,354 posts)
2. Good for Casey to not concede until every vote is counted and confirmed.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:55 PM
Nov 2024

This is how all Dems should react.

demodonkey

(3,312 posts)
3. They are still counting votes.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 07:03 PM
Nov 2024

Over 1000 votes still outstanding in my small county of 80,000 voters alone.

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bucolic_frolic

(50,421 posts)
9. Republicans definitely do not want to establish precedent that every vote counts
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:03 PM
Nov 2024

30k is a lot to overcome, and i doubt it will happen. But it could get tighter. A recount might jostle loose votes, and find errors. Let it happen.

BumRushDaShow

(152,920 posts)
10. McCormick had been through several recounts
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:13 PM
Nov 2024

when he ran for Toomey's seat (that Fetterman (D) ultimately won in the general).

I.e., he even wanted "hand recounts' in the 2022 GOP primary, which Oz won.

As U.S. Supreme Court enters Pa. Senate race, McCormick requests hand recount

In 2022 - McCormick WANTED the "undated" mail ballots to be included in his tally.

karin_sj

(1,216 posts)
11. Sounds like he has a chance of winning (100,000 votes weren't counted)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:33 PM
Nov 2024

From the PA Department of State: "We estimate that there are art least 100,000 ballots remaining to be adjudicated, including provisional, military, overseas, and Election Day votes. We urge patience as election workers continue to do this important work, especially in contests where the margins are very close"

Why the hell is AP calling elections when so many ballots haven't been counted?


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Polybius

(19,966 posts)
15. 100,000 to go, but he's down about 31,000
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:54 PM
Nov 2024

Still possible, but he'd have to win a very high percentage of them.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
12. Can he overcome a 30,,000 vote deficit with the remaining mail ballots?
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:34 PM
Nov 2024

I can't imagine there are enough to matter at this point.

lees1975

(6,533 posts)
14. Not sure what the count is up to, but last time I checked there are probably close to 200,000 ballots left to count,
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:46 PM
Nov 2024

and the majority of those are in Philadelphia, Bucks, Chester, and Montgomery Counties where Casey got between 57 and 85% of the vote.

BumRushDaShow

(152,920 posts)
19. PA has an automatic trigger for a recount if the difference is 0.5% or less
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:29 PM
Nov 2024

McCormick went through several when he was running in the GOP primary against Oz, for the seat that Fetterman ultimately got.

cadoman

(1,266 posts)
21. if it's regular mail-in ballots I don't see why not
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:40 PM
Nov 2024

Those should be overwhelmingly Democratic. The regular provisional will be more mixed but those of us who are still COVID conscious are not setting foot inside an election center.

iluvtennis

(21,218 posts)
20. Everyone vote should be counted. Count the remaining 100,000 votes - maybe he wins, maybe he doesn't. But
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:33 PM
Nov 2024

all votes should be counted.

Sogo

(6,250 posts)
22. AP needs to retract it's call, based on this information:
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:53 PM
Nov 2024

“This race is within half a point and cannot be called while the votes of thousands of Pennsylvanians are still being counted. We will make sure every Pennsylvanian’s voice is heard.” If the current margin holds, or remains at or under 0.5%, it would trigger a recount under Pennsylvania law.

Polybius

(19,966 posts)
28. It's still at 95% counted, with McCormick up by around 35,000
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:48 PM
Nov 2024

Anyone know a timeline for the outstanding ballots to be counted?

BumRushDaShow

(152,920 posts)
29. Military/civilian overseas ballots are due NLT than *7* days AFTER election day
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:34 PM
Nov 2024
https://www.pa.gov/en/agencies/vote/voter-support/mail-in-and-absentee-ballot/military-and-overseas-voters.html

What are the deadlines to vote by absentee ballot?

For military and civilian overseas voters, there are two requirements about when to submit your absentee ballot.

  • You must affirm that you mailed your ballot no later than 11:59 pm on the day before Election Day.
  • The County Election Office must receive your ballot no later than 7 days after Election Day by 5 pm.


  • For federal voters, your ballot must be received by 8pm on Election Day.


    So right there, you have November 12 as a last cutoff for "receipt" of the regular absentee ballots for overseas citizens.

    BumRushDaShow

    (152,920 posts)
    31. That is a state law
    Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:50 PM
    Nov 2024

    so ALL counties would need to wait for any outstanding overseas military/civilian (civilian for that deadline meaning non-ex pat) ballots.

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