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BumRushDaShow

(147,142 posts)
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 05:10 AM Nov 2024

Trump's shunning of transition planning may have severe consequences, governance group says

Source: Yahoo! News/AP

Fri, November 8, 2024 at 5:19 PM EST


WASHINGTON (AP) — A good-governance group is warning of severe consequences if President-elect Donald Trump continues to steer clear of formal transition planning with the Biden administration — inaction that it says is already limiting the federal government’s ability to provide security clearances and briefings to the incoming administration.

Without the planning, says Max Stier, president and CEO of the nonprofit Partnership for Public Service, “it would not be possible" to "be ready to govern on day one.”

The president-elect's transition is being led by Cantor Fitzgerald CEO Howard Lutnick and Linda McMahon, the former wrestling executive who led the Small Business Administration during Trump’s first term. They said last month that they expected to sign agreements beginning the formal transition process with the Biden White House and the General Services Administration, which acts essentially as the federal government's landlord.

But those agreements are still unsigned, and the pressure is beginning to mount. The delay is holding up the federal government’s ability to begin processing security clearances for potentially hundreds of Trump administration national security appointees. That could limit the staff who could work on sensitive information by Inauguration Day on Jan. 20. It also means Trump appointees can’t yet access federal facilities, documents and personnel to prepare for taking office.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-shunning-transition-planning-may-221904264.html

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Trump's shunning of transition planning may have severe consequences, governance group says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 OP
The goal is chaos Aviation Pro Nov 2024 #1
Security clearances? johnnyfins Nov 2024 #2
That is the intent... Remember George Bush? Remember Trump cutting US staff in Wuhan lab right before Covid? LiberalArkie Nov 2024 #10
Imagine the documents Trump will be able to steal. Intractable Nov 2024 #3
Trump will just give everyone security clearances anyway. Why bother with background checks. Lonestarblue Nov 2024 #4
If the employee isn't willing to train Marthe48 Nov 2024 #5
Dana White will be on hand to introduce advisors as they arrive... EarthFirst Nov 2024 #6
Idiocracy wasn't supposed to be a documentary, damn it! Initech Nov 2024 #39
Seriously? Raven123 Nov 2024 #7
That was my thought as well. DemInBuckhead Nov 2024 #12
And how, exactly, is this news? The one thing you can rely on Trump for is utter chaos. Vinca Nov 2024 #8
Just like last time travelingthrulife Nov 2024 #9
I would.use a much harsher term than "foolish". They know exactly what they are doing, and if history is an guide, JohnSJ Nov 2024 #16
I wish "Kamala" could come back and yorkster Nov 2024 #26
same here. However, I would love it if she considers running for California Governor. JohnSJ Nov 2024 #28
Agree. Hope she considers it after some yorkster Nov 2024 #30
Everything Trump is doing will have consequences. LisaL Nov 2024 #11
You won't need a security clearance Linda ladeewolf Nov 2024 #13
Or he hands it to you, if you ask nicely FakeNoose Nov 2024 #22
Remember, Trump has said he prefers "acting" anyway Bluetus Nov 2024 #43
Security clearances????? AverageOldGuy Nov 2024 #14
I hope the f**ker self-destructs. JohnSJ Nov 2024 #15
Trump doesn't intend to govern, he intends to rule. patphil Nov 2024 #17
I think the security clearances are required aren't they? JohnSJ Nov 2024 #18
not any more..... AZ8theist Nov 2024 #33
Eliminate the middle man and just send security clearances and briefings to Putin. Autumn Nov 2024 #19
The Trump team's goal is to tear it all down dlk Nov 2024 #20
Damn, dudes you do understand, "may have severe consequences", republianmushroom Nov 2024 #21
They don't plan to govern. They plan to RULE ! HUAJIAO Nov 2024 #23
Trust me, I get it. And I'm no idiot.... AZ8theist Nov 2024 #34
I wasn't referring to you, but rather the writers of the quote article. HUAJIAO Nov 2024 #42
Oh, of course I know that.... AZ8theist Nov 2024 #44
"it would not be possible" to "be ready to govern on day one." area51 Nov 2024 #24
So, let's see, GWII came in with an Anything But Clinton mentality and we got 9/11 Baitball Blogger Nov 2024 #25
"transition planning" is about continuity, smooth changes in governance, things for which the incoming regime has no use 0rganism Nov 2024 #27
No one should be surprised by this sakabatou Nov 2024 #29
If The Final Golden Cheeseburger Doesn't Send him to The Pearly Gates First Blue Jean Nov 2024 #31
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the shitshow. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2024 #32
As the orange criminal mob boss hurtles toward his finish line, expect anything. As he stated: "I love chaos." Evolve Dammit Nov 2024 #35
Trump doesn't think he needs any stinking transition planning jmowreader Nov 2024 #36
Everybody is saying with his huge stable genius brain KS Toronado Nov 2024 #37
Trump will just override any security clearances that are questionable NewJeffCT Nov 2024 #38
The Beauty of Civilisation topcelts Nov 2024 #40
The more he screws up, the better. LisaM Nov 2024 #41

johnnyfins

(1,693 posts)
2. Security clearances?
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 05:50 AM
Nov 2024

Who is going to enforce them? TSF loyalists? What a joke. I said in an earlier post: This country is so open to an attack from the outside now. The chaos and disorganization will make it worse.

Lonestarblue

(12,234 posts)
4. Trump will just give everyone security clearances anyway. Why bother with background checks.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 06:53 AM
Nov 2024

He likes the sleazy and corrupt. His administration will be filled with them.

EarthFirst

(3,400 posts)
6. Dana White will be on hand to introduce advisors as they arrive...
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 07:13 AM
Nov 2024

Cutaways to Vince McMahon will interview staffers as they browse the green room buffet.

Elon will be the guest of (dis)honor and deliver the keynote in the State Dining Room at 7 p.m. EST.

Contributing corporate sponsors will be McDonald’s Prime Hydration and Coca Cola

The entire transition evening will be broadcast exclusively on Amazon Prime for a donation of $149.99 made payable to Never Surrender Inc.

“It’s gonna be lit; fam!”

Raven123

(6,347 posts)
7. Seriously?
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 07:21 AM
Nov 2024

Part of me hopes they don’t plan. The more organized they are, the more they will get done to destroy democracy.

JohnSJ

(97,433 posts)
16. I would.use a much harsher term than "foolish". They know exactly what they are doing, and if history is an guide,
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 10:17 AM
Nov 2024

Karma will eventually come back and bite them in the ass like it did to Italy and Germany in the 30's and 40's.

JohnSJ

(97,433 posts)
28. same here. However, I would love it if she considers running for California Governor.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 01:25 PM
Nov 2024

LisaL

(47,025 posts)
11. Everything Trump is doing will have consequences.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:25 AM
Nov 2024

Not good ones. We are up the creek without a paddle.

Linda ladeewolf

(652 posts)
13. You won't need a security clearance
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 09:37 AM
Nov 2024

If you pay Donald enough, you can just walk in a take what you want.

FakeNoose

(36,551 posts)
22. Or he hands it to you, if you ask nicely
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:39 AM
Nov 2024

The grifting we saw last time was sort of hidden and quiet. But now it's going to be right in our faces on STERIODS.

Bluetus

(595 posts)
43. Remember, Trump has said he prefers "acting" anyway
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:10 PM
Nov 2024

They never have to go before the Senate for confirmation. This seems to be a loophole. Evidently there is nothing (other than tradition and public shaming -- neither of which mean anything to Trump) that really requires anybody to be confirmed, as they can remain in an acting role indefinitely.

AverageOldGuy

(2,459 posts)
14. Security clearances?????
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 10:12 AM
Nov 2024

Trump doesn't need any security clearances. The President gets a clearance by virtue of being President then he can order clearances to any and all. Remember -- Jared Kushner failed every single background investigation because of foreign business connections yet Trump ordered a Top Secret/Special Intelligence (TW/SI) clearance for him.

Elon Musk no doubt will have access to our most precious secrets. Putin will receive copies of the President's Daily Intell Briefing.

Face it, people, we are now Nazi Germany in the 1930's, only MUCH, MUCH worse.

patphil

(7,394 posts)
17. Trump doesn't intend to govern, he intends to rule.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 10:30 AM
Nov 2024

He doesn't see the need to prepare to take the reigns of government. As a dictator from day one, he's not going to take any advice, and his "team" will do his bidding.
In his mind, that's all that's needed.
He's been given a mandate to be a strong man, and will mold the government, and all it's agencies, into a shape that suits him alone. I expect there will be wholesale removal of anyone and everyone who knows how to govern in virtually all of the governmental agencies.
With project 2025 as his guide, he will destroy anything that actually helps people, so what does he need to know about how these agencies work, and what they are doing now. All that is going away.
Trump will deal with things like security clearances the way he deals with everything else; he'll simply demand that his people receive whatever clearance they need.
Who's going to challenge him?

Autumn

(47,251 posts)
19. Eliminate the middle man and just send security clearances and briefings to Putin.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:03 AM
Nov 2024

Putin can decide who in trumps circle needs them. Trump will never be ready or fit to govern.

dlk

(12,557 posts)
20. The Trump team's goal is to tear it all down
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:06 AM
Nov 2024

And vacuum up all the resources for those at the top. We are in for a very bumpy ride.

AZ8theist

(6,625 posts)
34. Trust me, I get it. And I'm no idiot....
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 03:02 PM
Nov 2024

It's these clowns who got EXACTLY what they WISHED FOR:

AZ8theist

(6,625 posts)
44. Oh, of course I know that....
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:22 AM
Nov 2024

You and I know who the idiots are.......

That's why I wanted to provide visual proof of who the morons are.......

area51

(12,237 posts)
24. "it would not be possible" to "be ready to govern on day one."
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:35 PM
Nov 2024

Pro-tip: they'll never be ready.

Baitball Blogger

(49,155 posts)
25. So, let's see, GWII came in with an Anything But Clinton mentality and we got 9/11
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 01:14 PM
Nov 2024

And Trump...no wait, Trump was a one man 9/11, spread across four years.

0rganism

(24,864 posts)
27. "transition planning" is about continuity, smooth changes in governance, things for which the incoming regime has no use
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 01:23 PM
Nov 2024

Next year, we're getting a "fresh start", all essential planning has been taken care of well in advance by the incoming gang of fascists, oligarchs, and useful idiots. Therefore, any "transition planning" or coordination with the outgoing Biden administration would be a waste of time.

sakabatou

(43,967 posts)
29. No one should be surprised by this
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 01:26 PM
Nov 2024

After he has to leave the office, he'll come out kicking and screaming like a toddler.

Blue Jean

(13 posts)
31. If The Final Golden Cheeseburger Doesn't Send him to The Pearly Gates First
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 02:19 PM
Nov 2024

Or his degenerating brain starts making him babble so much that they have to hide him away.

Evolve Dammit

(19,971 posts)
35. As the orange criminal mob boss hurtles toward his finish line, expect anything. As he stated: "I love chaos."
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 03:43 PM
Nov 2024

jmowreader

(51,854 posts)
36. Trump doesn't think he needs any stinking transition planning
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 04:14 PM
Nov 2024

He’s probably planning to just clear his minions via executive order and continue the policies of his previous administration.

KS Toronado

(20,719 posts)
37. Everybody is saying with his huge stable genius brain
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 05:31 PM
Nov 2024

rumpie doesn't need any transition planning because he's already got everything planned out. Plus using
only his brain he will give everyone new in his administration TOP SECRET clearance after they raise
their right hand and swear absolute loyalty to Der Fuhrer. No worries he's got everything under control.

NewJeffCT

(56,844 posts)
38. Trump will just override any security clearances that are questionable
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 05:57 PM
Nov 2024

I fully expect at least a few hundred the be approved that have glaring red flags in them

topcelts

(13 posts)
40. The Beauty of Civilisation
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 06:22 PM
Nov 2024

The Beauty of Civilization has been all but been destroyed in the U.S. by this savage horde that has absolutely refused carte blanche to cherish the small steps we have made towards a civilized society. Our "Quest for Fire" has decided we are better off in the caves rather than seek the light of an enlightened society. They seek to destroy our wonderful global literature, they have Fahrenheit 451ed it; next will be what remains of the arts. So my dear Brothers and Sisters it's time to pick up the gauntlet, we have the freedom to think and spread the good doctrines of love, tolerance, forgiveness, charity, faith and hope. You can legislate all you want and executive order all you want but these beautiful virtues are ours and cannot be taken away from us. Every one of these monsters will eventually die and they will leave behind nothing of any human or spiritual value. in fact there will be a very long line of Hitlers.Take heart the real battle is about to commence. Vive le U.S.

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