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BumRushDaShow

(143,115 posts)
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 05:00 AM Nov 11

Schumer withholds Senate orientation invite from McCormick

Source: Politico

11/10/2024 05:01 PM EST


Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer will not allow Sen.-elect Dave McCormick (R-Pa.) to participate in Senate orientation this week because he doesn’t consider the race to be resolved yet. Though the Associated Press projected Thursday that McCormick defeated Democrat incumbent Bob Casey in Pennsylvania’s Senate race, Casey has yet to concede, claiming that there are still thousands of ballots left to be counted.

“With over 100,000 ballots left to be counted in Pennsylvania, the race has not been decided. As is custom, we will invite the winner once the votes are counted,” a spokesperson for Schumer wrote in a statement. As of Sunday at 4:30 p.m., McCormick was ahead by approximately 39,000 votes.

“Schumer is not allowing @DaveMcCormickPA to participate in Senate orientation this week because Casey refuses to concede the race. What happened to all the demands that our leaders accept the outcome of the elections?” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said in a social media post Sunday.

Rep. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) has also not been invited to orientation yet as his race against Republican Kari Lake has yet to be called. Gallego is ahead by approximately 48,000 votes. (The Associated Press has not called that race; the New York Times has not called either the Pennsylvania or Arizona race.)

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/10/schumer-casey-mccormick-senate-orientation-00188644

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Schumer withholds Senate orientation invite from McCormick (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 11 OP
This being blown up by the right Ontheboundry Nov 11 #1
I thought the tradition was to invite both candidates in uncalled elections FBaggins Nov 11 #2
Yes BigMin28 Nov 11 #3
Tradition Macrophylla Nov 11 #4
Congratulations on 69 posts orangecrush Nov 11 #10
Are the ballots stuck in U.S. Postal trucks? Maybe in Alabama or Arkanstan? LiberalArkie Nov 11 #5
There were something like 20,000 provisional ballots outstanding in Philly alone BumRushDaShow Nov 11 #6
I wonder when Roberts will order the count stopped? Per 2000 Florida LiberalArkie Nov 11 #7
Well in this case BumRushDaShow Nov 11 #9
Isn't PA's recount deadline on Thursday? At which point, it would be moot if PA's still doing first time counts. ancianita Nov 11 #12
No - November 12th is the deadline for when military/overseas ballots need to be received BumRushDaShow Nov 11 #13
Got it. Thanks for the history on PA. It's good to know because most Americans believe the count is over. ancianita Nov 11 #14
Because of the provisions of the Electoral Count Act(s) BumRushDaShow Nov 11 #17
Thanks. Yep, now's the time to re-read the Electoral Count Act. ancianita Nov 11 #19
I did see one thing related to a "Nov. 14th" date BumRushDaShow Nov 11 #21
Me, too. Good points on the court battles and how they might use or reject state laws/rules/regulations. ancianita Nov 11 #22
A tangible demonstration that we still have rules. bucolic_frolic Nov 11 #8
Way to stand up, Chuck! The resistance to Fascism begins! jalan48 Nov 11 #11
Schumer GoreWon2000 Nov 11 #16
What a surprise. He has always stuck me a real, maintain the status quo, kinda guy. jalan48 Nov 11 #20
If you're a Senator the odds are good that the status quo is pretty pleasant. The Mouth Nov 11 #23
True, it's a great gig with lots of perks. jalan48 Nov 11 #24
AZ media is reporting Gallego as the winner GoreWon2000 Nov 11 #15
As well they should. Abolishinist Nov 11 #18
The AP has finally called it for Gallego GoreWon2000 Nov 12 #25

Ontheboundry

(292 posts)
1. This being blown up by the right
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 05:10 AM
Nov 11

But it really is proper

I think McCormick and Gallego will both win, but Schumer is gonna allow the process to happen

FBaggins

(27,752 posts)
2. I thought the tradition was to invite both candidates in uncalled elections
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 06:08 AM
Nov 11

I know the House new member orientation works that way

BumRushDaShow

(143,115 posts)
6. There were something like 20,000 provisional ballots outstanding in Philly alone
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 08:52 AM
Nov 11

and that was over the weekend. The last tranche reported was Saturday evening where they updated to just under 1000 tallied so far. Didn't see any updates yesterday.

BumRushDaShow

(143,115 posts)
9. Well in this case
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 09:17 AM
Nov 11

the issue wouldn't be installing a President or even ensuring a GOP majority in the Senate, so I doubt they would get involved.

ancianita

(38,727 posts)
12. Isn't PA's recount deadline on Thursday? At which point, it would be moot if PA's still doing first time counts.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:08 PM
Nov 11

The law on recounts seem fair, but the delays in counting work against their being used. I wonder if working around recount laws is also part of the Republican suppression equation in battlegrounds.

My fear is that if Rethugs are in a vote war of attrition, they might just succeed in battleground election workers giving up in 2026 and beyond. And I just can't rule out the problems discovered with "tabulators," whatever that entails.

BumRushDaShow

(143,115 posts)
13. No - November 12th is the deadline for when military/overseas ballots need to be received
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:27 PM
Nov 11

So after that, whatever came in on that day would also need to be added to the outstanding, mostly provisional ballots, that still need to be counted.

In 2020, Biden's final "totals" took about 14 days and we are just 6 days in this year.

ancianita

(38,727 posts)
14. Got it. Thanks for the history on PA. It's good to know because most Americans believe the count is over.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:46 PM
Nov 11

And Rethugs are doing nothing to disabuse them of that fact. They'll probably even lie and say the late decisions are due to Democratic cheating.

BumRushDaShow

(143,115 posts)
17. Because of the provisions of the Electoral Count Act(s)
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 01:11 PM
Nov 11

States are bound by certain deadlines in law, to certify their votes and issue their Certificates of Ascertainment.

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/key-dates

That December 11th date is pretty much the drop dead date for counting.

BumRushDaShow

(143,115 posts)
21. I did see one thing related to a "Nov. 14th" date
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 02:08 PM
Nov 11

and that has to do with any triggered re-counts if a difference between candidates amounts to 0.5% or less.

I know this past year, even up until the Friday before the election, the courts were back and forth about the mail ballots and the last decisions that came through included one NOT to count mail ballots without a date, but TO count any provisional ballots that were submitted as replacements for mail ballots with missing dates and/or signatures, lacked ID verification, or any other reasons that the ballot was rejected.

ancianita

(38,727 posts)
22. Me, too. Good points on the court battles and how they might use or reject state laws/rules/regulations.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 02:21 PM
Nov 11

Triggered recounts might/might not work in our favor, but it's a good thing that at least finished first counts can trigger them.

GoreWon2000

(1,031 posts)
16. Schumer
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:49 PM
Nov 11

was 1 of the Senate dems who wouldn't co-sponsor the Congressional Black Caucus's challenge to the fraudulent Florida 2000 vote count,

Abolishinist

(2,024 posts)
18. As well they should.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 01:21 PM
Nov 11

He is ahead by 69,000 votes, with 257,000 left to count. By my calculation, she would need 73% to make it a tie.

Also, the remaining votes are in counties that he is winning.

As an aside, the Green Party candidate has received 68,000 votes.

GoreWon2000

(1,031 posts)
25. The AP has finally called it for Gallego
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 10:38 AM
Nov 12

and he's now given his very nice victory speech. It's a ray of hope in a sea of darkness.

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