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BumRushDaShow

(143,532 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 05:35 AM Nov 12

Trump picks Kristi Noem to serve as his Homeland Security secretary

Source: CNN Politics

Published 1:00 AM EST, Tue November 12, 2024


CNN — President-elect Donald Trump has selected South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem as his next secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, according to two people familiar with the selection.

Noem will be tapped to take over the agency as two key immigration hardliners — Stephen Miller and Tom Homan — are slated to serve in senior roles, signaling Trump is serious about his promise to crack down on his immigration pledges. With his selection of Noem, Trump is ensuring a loyalist will head an agency he prioritizes and that is key to his domestic agenda.

The department saw an immense amount of turmoil the last time Trump was in office. Then, DHS had five different leaders, only two of whom were Senate-confirmed. The agency has a $60 billion budget and hundreds of thousands of employees.

Noem, who previously was a South Dakota representative, will now be tasked with overseeing a sprawling agency that oversees everything from US Customs and Border Protection and Immigration and Customs Enforcement to the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the US Secret Service.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/12/politics/kristi-noem-homeland-security-secretary/index.html

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Trump picks Kristi Noem to serve as his Homeland Security secretary (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 12 OP
I guess puppy murdering proves she's cruel enough for the job. Ocelot II Nov 12 #1
Prerequisite. ... littlemissmartypants Nov 12 #2
BUT!.... underpants Nov 12 #20
Because the Gov of SD has so much experience with the southern border Bluetus Nov 12 #43
the infamous, despicable governor DENVERPOPS Nov 12 #90
Employees found insufficiently loyal or useful to the President will be terminated regardless of civil service status. Marcuse Nov 12 #61
Sure won't be many {insert racist epithet} curs creeping around while Elmer Noem is wabbit hunting! . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 12 #3
We are truly fucked. madaboutharry Nov 12 #4
Now the Snow Queen controls ICE. . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 12 #5
That was my first reaction too underpants Nov 12 #12
This. Precisely this. hatrack Nov 12 #26
She allegedly help come up with SD anti-drugvslogan: Meth, we're on it!!! 🤔 Devilsun Nov 12 #73
Hide your pets. RandySF Nov 12 #6
Couldn't handle her pup, but elleng Nov 12 #7
It's an incredibly powerful cabinet position underpants Nov 12 #11
It's a RIDICULOUS cabinet position, NO ONE can handle it adequately. elleng Nov 12 #15
Yes it was a poor reaction to 9/11 underpants Nov 12 #19
Right. elleng Nov 12 #21
They literally had to cobble together a Department BumRushDaShow Nov 12 #22
Yes, they did; elleng Nov 12 #70
Wow yeah-that is a lot of responsibility.nt jfz9580m Nov 12 #37
Yes, she'll be in over her head, but she's pretty. JohnnyRingo Nov 12 #41
I guess our only hope for the next 4 years are low-key, behind-the-scenes, true patriots... Think. Again. Nov 12 #8
Puppy Blaster is experienced in the disappearing department. bucolic_frolic Nov 12 #9
This cabinet will be filled with airheads too stupid to interrupt the boss when he's screwing up Simeon Salus Nov 12 #10
It's really sad The Madcap Nov 12 #32
It's the cabinet of, by, and for Fox News hosts. Initech Nov 12 #79
Wingnut welfare. Simeon Salus Nov 12 #81
Fox News isn't so much a news network as it is a multi-level marketing firm. Initech Nov 12 #84
FEMA. And the US Secret Service. Akakoji Nov 12 #13
Don't forget the Coast Guard! SomewhereInTheMiddle Nov 12 #17
How long till all protection from the secret service are gone for Clinton,Obama and Biden? Bengus81 Nov 12 #45
Lifetime protection for former presidents and their spouses and minor children is provided by law. Protection of others 24601 Nov 12 #52
I thought Jackie Kennedy gave up her protection at some point. rickford66 Nov 12 #54
I believe that her protection ended upon her remarriage. Her kids kept theirs until age 16. 24601 Nov 12 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 12 #57
Public Law No: 112-257 24601 Nov 12 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 12 #67
Please fasten your seat belts. multigraincracker Nov 12 #14
Hail, Hail, the Gang's All ribrepin Nov 12 #16
Billions of dollars in discretionary funding. Irish_Dem Nov 12 #18
All politics and capabilities aside genxlib Nov 12 #23
She won't last. nt GenThePerservering Nov 12 #24
OMG - lock your dogs up. Vinca Nov 12 #25
"They're shooting the dogs! They're shooting the cats!" True Dough Nov 12 #27
"They're shooting the dogs! They're shooting the cats!" True Dough Nov 12 #28
Good bye national and homeland security..... Lovie777 Nov 12 #29
And hello Putin, Kremlin, FSB and GRU. ancianita Nov 12 #55
We need to put out psa's every week kerouac2 Nov 12 #30
The incompetence continues. The Madcap Nov 12 #31
The pool is remarkably shallow - few qualified people will work with him Prairie Gates Nov 12 #33
Another DEI hire Old Crank Nov 12 #34
The next 4 years. Woodwizard Nov 12 #35
Yep. We are on our own more than ever. Evolve Dammit Nov 12 #66
Just for context Historic NY Nov 12 #36
What could go wrong? C_U_L8R Nov 12 #38
The fool who probably knows less about border issues than my dog. travelingthrulife Nov 12 #39
I can see why he picked her, she's a attractive woman. JohnnyRingo Nov 12 #40
I suppose, "Meth. It's what's for dinner!" was considered. n/t Harker Nov 12 #48
If ever a slogan dweller Nov 12 #50
In this country, all dogs are now very afraid. lark Nov 12 #42
Butt she is a non-stop ass kisser and toady. Prof. Toru Tanaka Nov 12 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 12 #44
Merry circus calliope music during the internment camp round-ups. NBachers Nov 12 #46
Cruella DeVille IronLionZion Nov 12 #47
How long will she last? NYC Liberal Nov 12 #49
Her first order during the next disaster is to shoot the abandoned/homeless pets. OLDMDDEM Nov 12 #51
Someone should have told Trump she had plastic surgery D. Spaulding Nov 12 #53
Watch out Dogs everywhere! joanbarnes Nov 12 #56
Employees found insufficiently loyal and useful to the President will be terminated regardless of civil service status. Marcuse Nov 12 #58
They were so concerned about Peanut the Squirrel - TBF Nov 12 #60
Her expertise being....? NM Grins Nov 12 #62
The parade of unqualified wankers continues. paleotn Nov 12 #64
He's picking psychopaths and dipshits to surround him. Texin Nov 12 #65
Drumpf hates dogs. Puppy killing was the big feature in that resume. What an unqualified bimbo. Palin-esque. n/t Evolve Dammit Nov 12 #68
First they came for the puppies... LT Barclay Nov 12 #71
So will SD get a new Governor? bluestarone Nov 12 #72
What usually happens is the lieutenant governor is elevated to governor jmowreader Nov 12 #75
Is she willing to commit atrocities? Mmmm, maybe. Just a few. Duncan Grant Nov 12 #74
Well, at least the country will be safe from lovable, rambunctious puppies. LudwigPastorius Nov 12 #76
The dogs are protesting her selection! Jacson6 Nov 12 #77
No stray dogs! Turbineguy Nov 12 #78
He will be the Depolorable President. ificandream Nov 12 #80
Kristi Noem to serve as his Homeland Security secretary Dogdirt Nov 12 #82
Only picked because they're hardliners. louis-t Nov 12 #83
Oh, joy. Karasu Nov 12 #85
The Minister of Love nt Xipe Totec Nov 12 #86
IN SOUTH DAKOTA.... THEY'RE SHOOTING THE DOGS! Montauk6 Nov 12 #87
Her prize for hosting the town hall RANDYWILDMAN Nov 12 #88
she bdamomma Nov 12 #89
well well flordia DonCoquixote Nov 12 #91
They're shooting the dogs, they're shooting the cats WokeAintWhatIAm Nov 12 #92

Bluetus

(233 posts)
43. Because the Gov of SD has so much experience with the southern border
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 09:00 AM
Nov 12

Last edited Tue Nov 12, 2024, 11:05 PM - Edit history (1)

which is Trump's most important concern.

DENVERPOPS

(10,071 posts)
90. the infamous, despicable governor
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 06:28 PM
Nov 12

of maybe the lowest population state in the union has not one glimmer of the job he has given her...... But she has proved to be a subservient Trumphumping woman, which makes her the perfect "New" Republican......

Marcuse

(8,043 posts)
61. Employees found insufficiently loyal or useful to the President will be terminated regardless of civil service status.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 11:12 AM
Nov 12

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,096 posts)
3. Sure won't be many {insert racist epithet} curs creeping around while Elmer Noem is wabbit hunting! . . nt
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 05:44 AM
Nov 12

madaboutharry

(41,381 posts)
4. We are truly fucked.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 05:45 AM
Nov 12

Kristi Noem is a bona fide dumbbell.

I am now seriously terrified. Before becoming Governor of South Dakota, Kristi Noem was first elected to Congress on the qualification of having won a beauty contest and being crowned South Dakota's Snow Queen. I kid you not. Look it up.

I am certain that the woman hasn't read a book since middle school. Not only is she an incredibly stupid person and a dog murderer, she is also corrupt. You can look that up too.

+ 1,000,000 more crying emojis.

underpants

(187,007 posts)
12. That was my first reaction too
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 06:25 AM
Nov 12

See elleng’s post below detailing the breadth of power and responsibilities of DHS. As I stated there, she could just be a rubber stamp for Miller and Homan to do whatever the hell they want.

elleng

(136,613 posts)
7. Couldn't handle her pup, but
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 05:53 AM
Nov 12

'no prob' w HomeLand Security, enacted in response to the September 11 attacks. With more than 240,000 employees,[1] DHS is the third-largest Cabinet department, after the departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs.[4] Homeland security policy is coordinated at the White House by the Homeland Security Council. Other agencies with significant homeland security responsibilities include the departments of Health and Human Services, Justice, and Energy.

List of incorporated agencies
Original agency Original department New agency or office after transfer
U.S. Customs Service Treasury U.S. Customs and Border Protection
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
Immigration and Naturalization Service Justice U.S. Customs and Border Protection
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
Federal Protective Service General Services Administration Management Directorate
Transportation Security Administration Transportation Transportation Security Administration
Federal Law Enforcement Training Center Treasury Federal Law Enforcement Training Center
Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service
(part) Agriculture U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Federal Emergency Management Agency none Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)
Strategic National Stockpile Health and Human Services Originally assigned to FEMA, Returned to HHS, July 2004
National Disaster Medical System Health and Human Services Originally assigned to FEMA, Returned to HHS, August 2006
Nuclear Incident Response Team Energy Responsibilities distributed within FEMA
Domestic Emergency Support Team Justice Responsibilities distributed within FEMA
Center for Domestic Preparedness Justice (FBI) Responsibilities distributed within FEMA
CBRN Countermeasures Programs Energy Science & Technology Directorate
Environmental Measurements Laboratory Energy Science & Technology Directorate
National Biological Warfare
Defense Analysis Center Defense Science & Technology Directorate
Plum Island Animal Disease Center Agriculture Science & Technology Directorate
Federal Computer Incident Response Center General Services Administration US-CERT, Office of Cybersecurity and Communications
National Programs and Preparedness Directorate (now CISA)
National Communications System Defense Office of Cybersecurity and Communications
National Programs and Predaredness Directorate
National Infrastructure Protection Center Justice (FBI) Office of Operations Coordination
Office of Infrastructure Protection
Energy Security and Assurance Program Energy Office of Infrastructure Protection
U.S. Coast Guard Transportation U.S. Coast Guard
U.S. Secret Service Treasury U.S. Secret Service

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Homeland_Security

OBVIOUSLY impossible to administer adequately.

underpants

(187,007 posts)
11. It's an incredibly powerful cabinet position
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 06:23 AM
Nov 12

She’s no where near qualified to lead it unless her role is to let Miller and Homan do whatever they want. Chilling.

underpants

(187,007 posts)
19. Yes it was a poor reaction to 9/11
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 06:56 AM
Nov 12

It was meant to better coordinate communication between agencies but it also shredded existing hierarchies and SOP. Yes there’s a territorial aspect but a better solution would have been a centralized communications operation.

One of the biggest effects I’ve read about is Secret Service. That was under Treasury (the old Wild Wild West TV show) and SS agents were the rock stars and were treated as such in Treasury. If you were a State Trooper let’s say and SS recruited you, you signed up. Long hours, tons of time away from home but it was quite an honor. After DHS, recruitment suffered as it was just another small little part of this gigantic whole.

BumRushDaShow

(143,532 posts)
22. They literally had to cobble together a Department
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 07:15 AM
Nov 12

by cannibalizing agencies from a number of Departments to do so, including Treasury, USDA, and DOT (the latter to get what would be TSA). Reworking Customs alone was just bizarre by suddenly combining it with what was then INS. The result ended up far surpassing the-then oft-ridiculed HHS, as having the most employees.

When I was still working for the feds when this happened, I was in a building that had agencies from 12 different Departments and had acquaintances with some of the employees from those other agencies (including those my agency worked with on occasion), some of whom ended up sucked into DHS.

JohnnyRingo

(19,360 posts)
41. Yes, she'll be in over her head, but she's pretty.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 08:53 AM
Nov 12

Trump like to employ ̶s̶m̶a̶r̶t̶,̶ ̶e̶f̶f̶i̶c̶i̶e̶n̶t̶, attractive women.

Think. Again.

(18,629 posts)
8. I guess our only hope for the next 4 years are low-key, behind-the-scenes, true patriots...
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 06:03 AM
Nov 12

...who will be willing to risk protecting us from from some very dangerous authority figures.

bucolic_frolic

(47,361 posts)
9. Puppy Blaster is experienced in the disappearing department.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 06:05 AM
Nov 12
The beating will continue until morale improves.

This whole cabinet is a farce, like satire of a sadist government that ran on humanitarian principles.

Simeon Salus

(1,335 posts)
10. This cabinet will be filled with airheads too stupid to interrupt the boss when he's screwing up
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 06:09 AM
Nov 12

No 5-stars in this cabinet.

Simeon Salus

(1,335 posts)
81. Wingnut welfare.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 03:47 PM
Nov 12

They rotate into the entertainment channel and then run for office with better media experience.

If you REALLY SCREW UP like Ollie North or Jeanine Pirro they throw small bundles of money your way and put you on TV occasionally. If you avoid crashing the NRA, then you'll eventually get a job on The Five.

Exiles end up at Heritage and AEI, rotating through state machines. Or hired as consultants by friendly businesses.

It's a real thing.

Initech

(102,305 posts)
84. Fox News isn't so much a news network as it is a multi-level marketing firm.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 04:19 PM
Nov 12

Really - if you appear on their shows enough and say exactly what they want to hear and don't screw up, you get promoted. Do it enough times and you get a job for life. Screw up even once and they send you back to the dredges. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Akakoji

(239 posts)
13. FEMA. And the US Secret Service.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 06:31 AM
Nov 12

Not to mention Immigration and Border Security. God help us all.

17. Don't forget the Coast Guard!
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 06:37 AM
Nov 12

Possibly the most active of our armed services with a broad and important portfolio of duties.

Bengus81

(7,435 posts)
45. How long till all protection from the secret service are gone for Clinton,Obama and Biden?
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 09:32 AM
Nov 12

They will all be reassigned to protect the Fuehrer.

24601

(4,021 posts)
52. Lifetime protection for former presidents and their spouses and minor children is provided by law. Protection of others
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 10:34 AM
Nov 12

is discretionary. I would not expect former VPs to receive a detail without a specific threat.

Nixon remains the only former president who gave up his protection.

24601

(4,021 posts)
59. I believe that her protection ended upon her remarriage. Her kids kept theirs until age 16.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 11:05 AM
Nov 12

Response to 24601 (Reply #52)

24601

(4,021 posts)
63. Public Law No: 112-257
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 11:56 AM
Nov 12

"Former Presidents Protection Act of 2012 - Amends the federal criminal code to eliminate certain limitations on the length of Secret Service protection for former Presidents and their spouses and children. Authorizes the Secret Service to protect: (1) former Presidents and their spouses for their lifetimes, except that protection of a spouse shall terminate in the event of remarriage; and (2) children of a former President who are under age 16."

https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/6620

Response to 24601 (Reply #63)

Irish_Dem

(58,875 posts)
18. Billions of dollars in discretionary funding.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 06:48 AM
Nov 12

Kristi Noem just won the lottery.

All that plastic surgery and whatever else she had to do for Trump paid off bigly.

genxlib

(5,711 posts)
23. All politics and capabilities aside
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 07:29 AM
Nov 12

Someone from South Dakota won't know squat about 99% of what they do?

Borders, Coast Guard, Secret Service, Customs, TSA, Emergency Management?

There are a dozen people in his orbit that have intersected these issues more in their career. They would all be horrible but at least you could say the resume adds up.

Sounds like a rubber stamper to me.

True Dough

(20,629 posts)
27. "They're shooting the dogs! They're shooting the cats!"
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 07:49 AM
Nov 12

What a lame administration this is going to be!

True Dough

(20,629 posts)
28. "They're shooting the dogs! They're shooting the cats!"
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 07:49 AM
Nov 12

What a lame administration this is going to be!

kerouac2

(739 posts)
30. We need to put out psa's every week
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 07:56 AM
Nov 12

Psa style ads on select channels to reach target audiences that include large numbers of ignorant voters. Air them during sports events I guess. Only way Americans will learn about what trump is doing and does in their name.

The Madcap

(517 posts)
31. The incompetence continues.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 07:58 AM
Nov 12

But at least South Dakota will be done with her.

So far, these picks are going to really harm these agencies via incompetence. They won't have to end them via executive or legislative action. Sheer stupidity will do it.

Prairie Gates

(3,438 posts)
33. The pool is remarkably shallow - few qualified people will work with him
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 08:00 AM
Nov 12

Then the patronage kicks in. Noem managed to pretend that Trump wasn't having an episode during his "playlist" town hall and has generally been a craven loyalist, so she fits the bill.

The really notable thing about his picks so far is their lack of qualifications mixed with the extreme (corrupt) patronage. Truly a kakistocracy.

Historic NY

(37,983 posts)
36. Just for context
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 08:14 AM
Nov 12

3 counties in the Mid-Hudson Valley have more population than her entire state of nothingless.

JohnnyRingo

(19,360 posts)
40. I can see why he picked her, she's a attractive woman.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 08:49 AM
Nov 12

She also almost graduated from college, but finished later online.

Two notable paragraphs from her Wiki:

At a 2023 NRA forum in Indiana, Noem said that her two-year-old granddaughter had a shotgun, a rifle, and a "little pony named Sparkles".

On November 18, 2019, Noem released a meth awareness campaign named "Meth. We're on It". The campaign was widely mocked and Noem was criticized for spending $449,000 of public funds while hiring an out-of-state advertising agency from Minnesota to lead the project. She defended the campaign as successful in raising awareness.


Yes, I can see why she was chosen.

dweller

(25,156 posts)
50. If ever a slogan
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 10:22 AM
Nov 12

Should be revived for this misadmin …

METH - WE’RE ON IT

is perfect


✌🏻

lark

(24,300 posts)
42. In this country, all dogs are now very afraid.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 08:57 AM
Nov 12

Of course tsf would pick the worst of the worst, the most hate filled person (after him and Nazi Miller) he could find. Where is her national security experience - she has zero.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,342 posts)
69. Butt she is a non-stop ass kisser and toady.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 12:31 PM
Nov 12

In Trump World, that is qualification #1. I agree with other posters in that we are royally fucked here.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

NYC Liberal

(20,351 posts)
49. How long will she last?
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 10:15 AM
Nov 12

Look at his last term and what happened with all the people who worked with him day to day. All but the most loyal of sycophants ended up running away or getting pushed out eventually.

It’s one thing to be a MAGA cheerleader on the campaign trail, a whole other to actually work (and I use that term loosely) with him.

D. Spaulding

(30 posts)
53. Someone should have told Trump she had plastic surgery
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 10:35 AM
Nov 12

Which is what some of his people supposedly told him about Loomer to quell his interest in her.
But wow, Noem is a horrible pick

Marcuse

(8,043 posts)
58. Employees found insufficiently loyal and useful to the President will be terminated regardless of civil service status.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 11:05 AM
Nov 12

TBF

(34,605 posts)
60. They were so concerned about Peanut the Squirrel -
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 11:09 AM
Nov 12

and now they elevate this serial animal killer?

Evolve Dammit

(18,972 posts)
68. Drumpf hates dogs. Puppy killing was the big feature in that resume. What an unqualified bimbo. Palin-esque. n/t
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 12:11 PM
Nov 12

jmowreader

(51,563 posts)
75. What usually happens is the lieutenant governor is elevated to governor
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 02:55 PM
Nov 12

The current lieutenant governor is Larry Rhoden. He's a rancher who's got a significant legislative track record: four and a half terms in the SD House, a term and a half in the SD Senate. The half-terms are explained as such: during his second Senate term he ran for the US Senate but lost the primary, and he had to leave the SD Senate to run for the US Senate - where he lost his primary election. His fifth term in the House was interrupted by him running for lieutenant governor, a race he won.

He's apparently a decent-enough gentleman, although he's got a track record of breaking gavels. The second gavel he broke was one he made himself - he is a talented woodworker.

I think he'll make things better in South Dakota as governor, largely because after Kristi Noem there isn't much of a way he could make anything worse.

 

Dogdirt

(18 posts)
82. Kristi Noem to serve as his Homeland Security secretary
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 03:52 PM
Nov 12

A dog killer and gun nut! God help us!!!

louis-t

(23,742 posts)
83. Only picked because they're hardliners.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 04:04 PM
Nov 12

Not because they have ANY experience. Kristi Noem is known for her clashes with Native Americans. Everyone, let's sit back and watch the dismantling and selling off of our country.

Karasu

(289 posts)
85. Oh, joy.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 04:24 PM
Nov 12

I feel so much safer knowing we're going to be protected from all those dangerous puppies out there.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,917 posts)
88. Her prize for hosting the town hall
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 05:34 PM
Nov 12

let's just stay here and dance....badly...nothing WEIRD about it

DonCoquixote

(13,716 posts)
91. well well flordia
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 06:40 PM
Nov 12

I guess she will manage fema well...(sarcasm) I cannot take pleasure in that because they will take the liberals and throw them on the bonfire

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