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FightFight

(125 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 04:08 PM Nov 12

No, Trump Did Not Win in a Landslide--nor Did He Secure a Mandate

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Source: thenation

The election math isn’t as bad as we thought. But the coming Trump administration is shaping up to be worse.
s blue Western states and cities finish counting votes, it looks like the popular vote “landslide” projected for Donald Trump last week turned out to be a trickle. When all the votes are counted, he will end up with a margin of roughly two points over Vice President Kamala Harris. Presidents Lyndon Johnson in 1964 and Richard Nixon in 1972 won more than 60 percent of the popular vote; Ronald Reagan in 1984 won 58 percent. Those were landslides.

Don’t get me wrong: It was a bad outcome for Democrats. Trump won all seven swing states, netting himself 312 Electoral College votes (to Biden’s 306 in 2020). Democrats lost control of the Senate; the GOP now has 52 seats, and will likely wind up with 53 when the race between incumbent Pennsylvania Democrat Bob Casey and Connecticut corporate titan David McCormick is finally called (provisional ballots are still being counted). It will probably hold the House, by a slim margin.

So yes, none of this is good news. But it’s not the top-to-bottom repudiation of Democrats as it first looked like, and the way to respond is not to launch a civil war within the Democratic Party. Unfortunately, that has already begun. Centrists blame the doctrine of “woke,” with particular ire for trans Americans (we see you, New York Representative Tom Suozzi); leftists say Democrats abandoned the working class (we hear you, once again, Senator Bernie Sanders). Both positions are wrong. Others point fingers at the Harris campaign. Meanwhile, much of the media hypes Trump’s win as a landslide, which would seem to validate his racist, anti-worker agenda.


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No, Trump Did Not Win in a Landslide--nor Did He Secure a Mandate (Original Post) FightFight Nov 12 OP
Pretty much what Lawrence said last night. ancianita Nov 12 #1
He has the White house, the Senate and the House. That's a mandate. Autumn Nov 12 #2
There's really no such thing... it's all in what you can bully the other party into accepting FBaggins Nov 12 #5
Asking questions is what we should do as Patriotic Americans Mr.Bee Nov 12 #3
That's the goofiness of out electoral system Montauk6 Nov 12 #4
Locking. Lasher Nov 12 #6

ancianita

(38,688 posts)
1. Pretty much what Lawrence said last night.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 04:12 PM
Nov 12
Lawrence: The election was not even close to a landslide.

Autumn

(46,395 posts)
2. He has the White house, the Senate and the House. That's a mandate.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 04:24 PM
Nov 12

Spin it anyway you want that's what he got.

FBaggins

(27,746 posts)
5. There's really no such thing... it's all in what you can bully the other party into accepting
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 05:48 PM
Nov 12

So that your initial implementing legislation is unblocked.

Mr.Bee

(373 posts)
3. Asking questions is what we should do as Patriotic Americans
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 04:52 PM
Nov 12

Montauk6

(8,692 posts)
4. That's the goofiness of out electoral system
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 05:21 PM
Nov 12

I'll never forget when Dubya and the Freepers declared a mandate on that neck-and-neck with our own John Forbes.

Lasher

(28,394 posts)
6. Locking.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 05:57 PM
Nov 12

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