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BumRushDaShow

(148,203 posts)
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:18 PM Nov 2024

Marjorie Taylor Greene Warns DOGE Subcommittee May Defund Sanctuary Cities

Source: Newsweek

Published Nov 24, 2024 at 1:01 PM EST


Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Georgia Republican, said on Sunday that, as the incoming chair of a House Oversight subcommittee that is set to work with the newly created Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), sanctuary states and cities could lose their funding. Earlier this week, Representative James Comer, a Kentucky Republican and chair of the House Oversight Committee, announced that Greene would head the new subcommittee, which will be named the Delivering on Government Efficiency Subcommittee.

In that role, Greene is expected to work closely with billionaires Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, who were selected by Trump to lead DOGE to "eliminate government waste." Greene, a vocal Trump ally, who pushes for a restrictive immigration policy, discussed her priorities as the incoming chair during an appearance on Fox News' Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo. When host Bartiromo asked where she sees the most government waste, Greene responded, "It's all over—every single government department, program, grant program, contracts, it is everywhere."

The subcommittee is expected to investigate wasteful spending, examine ways to reorganize federal agencies to improve efficiency and identify solutions to eliminate bureaucratic red tape. Greene said: "I'd like to talk to the governors of sanctuary states and the mayors of sanctuary cities and have them come before our committee and explain why they deserve federal dollars if they're going to harbor illegal criminal aliens in their states and their cities."

Newsweek has reached out to several governors of sanctuary states, including New York, Vermont, Massachusetts, Oregon, and Colorado as well as the New York ACLU for comment via email on Sunday.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-warns-doge-subcommittee-may-defund-sanctuary-cities-1990818



They are itching to overplay their hand.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene Warns DOGE Subcommittee May Defund Sanctuary Cities (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 OP
The nastier they get the more the MAGAs will love it. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #1
They seem to forget states dole out the money. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #51
Red states will still get money. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #52
It's hard to only give to 18 blue states. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #54
Blue states will be punished in some way. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #55
It failed like everything else he touches. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #56
He did not fail in the least. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #57
Yes but in red states mostly. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #58
True, but A) it didn't seem to affect their electoral success, Ursus Rex Nov 2024 #61
Let the turnabout be for sanctuary cities to withhold the tax funds they send to the federal gov't. n/t iluvtennis Nov 2024 #2
Exactly. I have been saying that for a while. LisaM Nov 2024 #22
There are sactuary cities in many of the 32 red states. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #53
If the RepubliCONs want to mess around DENVERPOPS Nov 2024 #45
Absolutely. HarryM Nov 2024 #49
This is going to be pure inept douchebaggery Gore1FL Nov 2024 #3
She's foaming at the mouth Walleye Nov 2024 #4
Call in Jasmine Crocket! She knows how to get a bad built butch to STFU! Lucky Luciano Nov 2024 #41
Cut off federal funding to states Demobrat Nov 2024 #5
Because most of that money is tax revenue from people and businesses living in California MichMan Nov 2024 #8
"individual taxpayers send it to the IRS" BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 #17
My employer did not send my tax deduction every week directly to the state so they could submit it to the IRS MichMan Nov 2024 #18
Any money that is given to the federal government BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 #20
And so what does that mean when MTG says DOGE decides who gets the money. ancianita Nov 2024 #33
Well 45 (I refuse to call him 47) will have to submit a budget for FY26 BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 #36
Got it. Thanks. Love this one, too. As for the room where it happens, ancianita Nov 2024 #38
His hat says 45-47. I call him negative 2. nt Gore1FL Nov 2024 #63
And there it goes, people zorbasd Nov 2024 #6
Could that also be done on a local level to state governments? MichMan Nov 2024 #11
The only way I know how to redistribute the taxes.... mwooldri Nov 2024 #50
who didn't see that coming? stillcool Nov 2024 #7
The fact that "DOGE" is even allowed to fucking exist is a disgrace. Karasu Nov 2024 #9
Well we'll see what authority they actually get. Biophilic Nov 2024 #12
They'll have Trump's ridiculous signiture on whatever executive order they put in front of him William Seger Nov 2024 #13
Yeah, I agree there. My only real hope is the corporate need for profits Biophilic Nov 2024 #16
Musk would need to put his companies in trust to do this TimeToGo Nov 2024 #35
Why? SomewhereInTheMiddle Nov 2024 #43
Well, I think this is more than that TimeToGo Nov 2024 #60
Trying to look on the bright side ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Nov 2024 #62
Good grief, I'm not sure there's enough wine in the country to get through this. Biophilic Nov 2024 #10
Many a slip between the cup and the lip Marthe48 Nov 2024 #14
Mention has already been made of the construction industry in FL and TX. And the farming community. keithbvadu2 Nov 2024 #15
Some counties did not go after their undocumented workers flamingdem Nov 2024 #23
A subcommittee, that doesn't exist yet, cannot defund any state. No mater what she says. Srkdqltr Nov 2024 #19
Since the GOP will still be in control of the House for the 119th Congress BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 #21
Why do they get off on threatening people? flamingdem Nov 2024 #24
The sanctuary cities should stop Windy Apple Nov 2024 #25
She is government waste. n/t Harker Nov 2024 #26
Gawd I despise that idiot woman! PortTack Nov 2024 #27
So cut city services to Trump tower Chicago, New York, etc. Freethinker65 Nov 2024 #28
Interesting. Tweedy Nov 2024 #29
She forgets that the Blue States are usually flush enough to fund ourselves. Aristus Nov 2024 #30
It's interesting Godot51 Nov 2024 #31
Congress allocates funds, not a subcommittee and not musk on his pretend office PSPS Nov 2024 #32
There is no such thing as a department of government efficiency - Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #34
I expect the plans are for them to name the Subcommittee that BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 #37
A house subcommittee isn't a department either. Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #39
Currently BumRushDaShow Nov 2024 #40
Whatever annual salary this harridan makes as a member of Congress Prof. Toru Tanaka Nov 2024 #42
Can California can add a tariff to goods delivered to any red state? Or, add tax to 33taw Nov 2024 #44
When they end FEMA, Florida and Texas are screwed. 33taw Nov 2024 #46
Give that woman some jackboots and call her the Bitch of Belsen. MTG can go to hell. Hekate Nov 2024 #47
.... trusty elf Nov 2024 #48
Then we don't submit federal taxes travelingthrulife Nov 2024 #59
 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
51. They seem to forget states dole out the money.
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 07:39 AM
Nov 2024

Federal government send a big check and states divvy it up. She’s so dumb.

Irish_Dem

(65,107 posts)
55. Blue states will be punished in some way.
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 07:44 AM
Nov 2024

Like when Jared Kushner refused to give blue cities covid help.
Let them die was Jared's goal.

Irish_Dem

(65,107 posts)
57. He did not fail in the least.
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 07:47 AM
Nov 2024

1 million Americans were killed.

Jared is sitting on at least $2B in bribe money.
Most likely much more sitting in offshore accounts.

Ursus Rex

(337 posts)
61. True, but A) it didn't seem to affect their electoral success,
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 09:54 AM
Nov 2024

B) you don't think he cares where they live(d) do you??

iluvtennis

(21,072 posts)
2. Let the turnabout be for sanctuary cities to withhold the tax funds they send to the federal gov't. n/t
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:23 PM
Nov 2024

LisaM

(29,016 posts)
22. Exactly. I have been saying that for a while.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 06:40 PM
Nov 2024

Blue states have been subsidizing red states for decades.

DENVERPOPS

(11,141 posts)
45. If the RepubliCONs want to mess around
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 01:25 AM
Nov 2024

Everyone in Colorado could keep their income tax payments on April 15th, (and 2025 quarterly tax estimates) to the Federal Government until these RepubliCON seditionists change their minds....They can't arrest millions of residents......
Of course we would send in our taxes to the Colorado State Gov't so OUR state governments expenses would be covered.
I am pretty sure Colorado is one of those states that sends more to the Fed Gov't than we get in return, so that would be an extra bonus. So, we could just send our Federal Income Taxes to The State of Colorado, and leave out the RepubliCONS in Washington D.C. as middlemen.....

Especially, if all the Blue States did that, and all the dems in Red States did that, they could bring the RepubliCON's bullshit to a dead stop.....

If they mess with Colorado, and cut Federal Funding, that would include cutting funding to the NORAD control center, and other Military installations in Colorado Springs, and others in other areas around the state....The entire Air Defense of the US would be un-funded.
(Word is, that Trump is trying to move NORAD to Louisiana anyways, to punish Colorado for being Blue......as typical, he couldn't pick a worse geographical location than a hurricane/tornado riddled state)

And no money to build any internment camps they plan on building in Colorado due to our large population of Mexican Americans......

I suspect this is just MTG blabbering off the bottom of her brain as usual.......but it is fun to imagine reprisals.....

Gore1FL

(22,264 posts)
3. This is going to be pure inept douchebaggery
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:23 PM
Nov 2024

There really is nothing to do now but sit back and watch the train wreck.

Demobrat

(10,061 posts)
5. Cut off federal funding to states
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:24 PM
Nov 2024

that put more in than they take out? How does that work? Serious question.
What is to stop CA from saying sorry no, no more cash from us?

MichMan

(14,317 posts)
8. Because most of that money is tax revenue from people and businesses living in California
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:32 PM
Nov 2024

The state doesn't send it in to the US Treasury, individual taxpayers send it to the IRS

BumRushDaShow

(148,203 posts)
17. "individual taxpayers send it to the IRS"
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 06:09 PM
Nov 2024

And who do you think the IRS is an agency under and where EVERY dime they collect, as well as where EVERY dime a federal agency manages for operations, sits?

Hint: It begins with a "T" and ends with a "Y".

MichMan

(14,317 posts)
18. My employer did not send my tax deduction every week directly to the state so they could submit it to the IRS
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 06:18 PM
Nov 2024

I have friends that own small businesses and that's not where the tax payments they deduct from their employees go. They send it directly to the IRS and not to state government.

Not understanding how a state like California could intercept it all and keep it

BumRushDaShow

(148,203 posts)
20. Any money that is given to the federal government
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 06:36 PM
Nov 2024

no matter what the source or for what purpose, IS deposited under the care of "the Treasury".

The IRS is a "collector" of revenue (money) FOR "the Treasury".

Whether an entity SENDS any revenue or not is a different story, but if they DO "send", it goes to "the Treasury".

ancianita

(39,868 posts)
33. And so what does that mean when MTG says DOGE decides who gets the money.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 09:18 PM
Nov 2024

She's nuts, but does she know something we don't about how funding is going to work under the WH mafia boss?

Thanks for the Hamilton clip. Luv it.

BumRushDaShow

(148,203 posts)
36. Well 45 (I refuse to call him 47) will have to submit a budget for FY26
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 09:38 PM
Nov 2024

probably sometime starting in March/April and that is where the initial cuts will be made by his sycophants. Then the various Committees doing markups will do even more.

And the follow-on (historically) of that video about the proposal of the creation of the national bank is this one (that Bolton stole the name of for his book) -



ancianita

(39,868 posts)
38. Got it. Thanks. Love this one, too. As for the room where it happens,
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 10:06 PM
Nov 2024

I heard Lawrence note that McConnell -- who is on the very real Senate Appropriations Committee -- and Muskman don't see eye to eye.

So I'd like to think, since McConnell, ever the political animal, is on his way out, he might decide he's got nothing to lose by sticking it to either Elon, 45, or both. It's hard to tell if he detests them, but this time he might not act in accordance with his old political ways.

zorbasd

(344 posts)
6. And there it goes, people
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:27 PM
Nov 2024

states who pay so much more to the feds should just intercept all fed taxes and deposit into state treasuries.

MichMan

(14,317 posts)
11. Could that also be done on a local level to state governments?
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:38 PM
Nov 2024

I'm sure the wealthier suburbs would love all their tax money be kept only for them, instead of the state sending some of it to the higher poverty areas & inner cities.

mwooldri

(10,570 posts)
50. The only way I know how to redistribute the taxes....
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 07:32 AM
Nov 2024

... is to tax the feds.

I honestly don't know how it could be done but a little tale from across the pond. The county of Surrey in England used to have its county seat in Kingston Upon Thames. However "Greater London" gobbled up more of Surrey and the whole of Middlesex. So Kingston Upon Thames ended up in London, but the county seat and the administrative headquarters remained there for years afterwards. Surrey ended up having to pay the London Borough of Kingston Upon Thames the equivalent of property tax on its properties in the borough.

Eventually the county seat got moved to Guildford (where most people thought it was anyway) and administration got moved to Reigate. The property in Kingston got sold off, and now the taxpayers of Surrey aren't paying taxes to London anymore.

I know it's a bit long winded but if the local government was to make the feds pay local property tax on their properties, then it's a way of clawing back some money. And the rate could be put up for non state governmental offices in the county.

Unsure if it could work. At least it would be a symbolic measure that could be done, even if the feds pay nothing.

Karasu

(648 posts)
9. The fact that "DOGE" is even allowed to fucking exist is a disgrace.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:34 PM
Nov 2024

More like the Department of Magical Thinking. It's an unserious entity named after a fucking Internet meme and headed by completely unserious people. This fictitious "non-government department" is such a goddamn travesty...and somehow, they're giving it actual authority. It'd be hilarious if Republicans had any self-awareness. Party of small government, everyone.

Biophilic

(5,329 posts)
12. Well we'll see what authority they actually get.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:39 PM
Nov 2024

The people actually financing these people want profits and control. That means there probably are some checks and balances. I hope.

William Seger

(11,448 posts)
13. They'll have Trump's ridiculous signiture on whatever executive order they put in front of him
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:51 PM
Nov 2024

And we will absolutely see executive orders pushed well past any established limit.

Biophilic

(5,329 posts)
16. Yeah, I agree there. My only real hope is the corporate need for profits
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:58 PM
Nov 2024

They can’t destroy everything in 4 years. Damn, well I hope not.

43. Why?
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 12:37 AM
Nov 2024

It is not an actual government position, with the legally required ethics reporting.

It is chairing an advisory board. There are and have been lots of business leaders on unpaid governmental advisory boards who do not have to remove themselves from their businesses. It is not seen as a conflict.

Or I could be wrong.

TimeToGo

(1,409 posts)
60. Well, I think this is more than that
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 09:45 AM
Nov 2024

They are even talking about congressional representation.

He has significant govt contracts and can therefore strongly benefit from restructure designed by him.

We shouldn’t normalize grift.

62. Trying to look on the bright side ...
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 09:58 AM
Nov 2024

And convince myself that a "department" with no founding in law or federal budget has no power, regardless of its influence.

MTG being put in charge of a subcommittee in the House to find ways to realize the DOGE recommendations is more problematic. I am hoping the GOP's weak majority will make that less effective.

But you are spot on that this is a great opportunity for Musk and others involved to squeeze contracts, favourable regulations, and profits out of the government they are advising.

No wonder no one will sign an ethics pledge.

Biophilic

(5,329 posts)
10. Good grief, I'm not sure there's enough wine in the country to get through this.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:37 PM
Nov 2024

Historians will study this period for centuries. That is unless we decide to wipe ourselves out. But I’m sure there will be a few stragglers left to try to understand how this happened.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
15. Mention has already been made of the construction industry in FL and TX. And the farming community.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:58 PM
Nov 2024

We should be seeing most of the republicans leaving welfare and unemployment soon?

Now that they will have employment opportunities opening up.

flamingdem

(40,085 posts)
23. Some counties did not go after their undocumented workers
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 06:41 PM
Nov 2024

Like Collier county.

Too much construction and too corrupt so they wink wink nod nodded with DeSantis' knowledge for sure.

BumRushDaShow

(148,203 posts)
21. Since the GOP will still be in control of the House for the 119th Congress
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 06:39 PM
Nov 2024

they WILL most likely create that "Special" Committee (probably via some Resolution that they will all vote for).

Freethinker65

(11,182 posts)
28. So cut city services to Trump tower Chicago, New York, etc.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 08:00 PM
Nov 2024

Lots of wealthy have investments in major sanctuary cities because they are also desirable places to live, work, and run businesses. A shame if those people see the brunt of Federal cuts.

Sorry, no money for snow removal around Trump tower this year as we needed to use the funds elsewhere, sorry about those protestors blocking deliveries to your office building as we needed those funds for other priorities, etc.

Tweedy

(1,277 posts)
29. Interesting.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 08:08 PM
Nov 2024

So, likewise, if such cities are defunded the citizens of those cities need not pay taxes, right?

These folks are truly delusional. Neither states, nor cities have any obligation to enforce immigration law. This is in the constitution.

Sanctuary cities will have to waste a lot of money on court cases unfortunately because of constitutionally ignorant folks like Ms Green.

Aristus

(69,253 posts)
30. She forgets that the Blue States are usually flush enough to fund ourselves.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 08:26 PM
Nov 2024

We don’t have to run screaming and crying, red-state-style, to the Federal government for funding of whatever.

Godot51

(381 posts)
31. It's interesting
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 08:31 PM
Nov 2024

It's interesting that "southerners" are so much for "states' rights" when the states are oppressing the people but against states' rights when they are supporting the people.

Ms. Toad

(36,071 posts)
34. There is no such thing as a department of government efficiency -
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 09:32 PM
Nov 2024

Newsweek and any other media outlet reporting that should be ashamed.

BumRushDaShow

(148,203 posts)
37. I expect the plans are for them to name the Subcommittee that
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 10:05 PM
Nov 2024

And every news outlet is using that term because that is what the loons have named it.

Ms. Toad

(36,071 posts)
39. A house subcommittee isn't a department either.
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 10:08 PM
Nov 2024

And news media should not go along with the pretense that the president has the power to create a department. It is their responsibility to call out this crap.

BumRushDaShow

(148,203 posts)
40. Currently
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 10:16 PM
Nov 2024

most of the news media continues to sane-wash this incoming administration so I have zero expectations for them to engage in any Civics 101 "fact checking". I.e., when they have nonsensical article headlines like -

"Can *45 really get rid of the Department of Education? It's complicated".


Rather than saying NO, Congress creates and Congress would have to take away.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,475 posts)
42. Whatever annual salary this harridan makes as a member of Congress
Sun Nov 24, 2024, 11:51 PM
Nov 2024

is exhibit A for “government waste”.

33taw

(3,082 posts)
44. Can California can add a tariff to goods delivered to any red state? Or, add tax to
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 01:22 AM
Nov 2024

pick up goods in Calif. Shipping backups in California or the West coast can create havoc. Or, shut down allPOE for trucks or rail except via Oregon. Stop flights to or from Texas, Ohio and Florida.

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